In keeping with nordeus tradition

[MARCO CAIA]

What manager can we screw today? Oh, i got it, me....it's only been a few hours since the last screw.wouldn't want to spoil me.......again lost against a weaker team, thanks

[vinim]

Marco, tell me what's the use of 'negotiations' if we can only buy, at the end of the season, low-level players who will get even weaker the following season? We can't sign players at a higher level than our team directly, and we can't sign players directly from other teams at the start of a season. It's illogical and one of the 25 absurd things in this game.

[MARCO CAIA]

a lot of absurdities in this game, in their constant insistence that this game is as close to reality as possible they are living in the denial of the fact that it's as far to reality as it can ever be, The ONLY REALITY of this game is MAKING MONEY for the creators and the programmers. The negotiations should be just that not what they make them to be. A negotiation is and should be between two clubs, but we can only accept or reject an offer not really negotiate. We cannot even counter an offer so what good is it? I guy makes an offer for one of my defenders just the other day, he offers only money, the most useless currency in the game. We accumulate the millions but no tokens and since we apparently need tokens to do all the important things in this game, if I want to sell a player I should always get a minimum of tokens offered. After all, you cannot buy ANY PLAYERS in this game without TOKENS, why should we not have the same benefit that Nordeus has? I'll tell you why because they thrive on greed, we are just trying to have some fun and win something once in a while, that's the difference, This game NEEDS A LOT OF CHANGES, A LOT, some thay are trying to implement through this new pay option they have created, I can even live with that but they need to implement a lot of other changes that would not require their making money, so good luck waiting for them to change them. Negotiations should always start with a minimum ONE TOKEN and the managers should have the option to actually negotiate an offer, counter offer etc, I still think the main changes that would make a world of difference would be, besides this one, to make promotions and relegation like in real football. The ones that do not promote or relegate stay in that league level. If you are in 11 and promote you go to level 12 if you relegate you go back to level 10 and those who are not doing either stay in level 11 in addition there should be NO LOSS of qualities for any team. This would indeed solve a lot of issues with the game, When we promote it is evident that we end up in a better league with better teams so even if we enter with the same quality we had in the previous level we still will not be the top team, there are always better ones than ours. Same when and if one relegates they will probably be somewhat better but never the competition would be better in any event. Those who remain in the level they are in will be forced to either improve their team or remain there or even relegate. In any event the managers would all better shot to do well. The CL competitions should also only be afforded when one reaches a certain league level not every season, that's not realistic at all either. There should be inner league cup competitions and that is it until one reaches the CL, Super League division. It would be a much fairer and realistic game. Plus tokens should always be awarded for good results and money should be convertible into other resources as well, such as rests, morale and health. By the way the health tiles are a rip-off because they are not given in the fair amount, in other words one tile should be worth one for one in other words not five tiles to get one injury day but either worth five per tile or one for one such as one tile one day etc. In addition what is this story they tell you to improve the pitch quality to reduce injuries but quite frankly the injury level of players has really not been diminished all that much, it's like the playstyle, they do not work very well either.

[vinim]

you're right Marco, I'm tired of complaining about all this game crap. Money that is not worth, tokens sucked in, rests in insufficient quantity, absurd rest time for the number of games, workouts that do not evolve the player enough, nothing helps, complaining is no use, nothing. I lost the cup final to an opponent 30% stronger. I knew I would lose, I tried to do the best, high morale, train at the maximum... And even though he did everything right, he had no chance of winning. Fair? Haha

I'm tired of these idiots who don't improve the game. They will charge more, offer a few crumbs and let the wrong things keep happening. There are people cheating with training, with the drew frenzy ... and they do nothing. Very unequal competitions. It doesn't work, I can't take it anymore.

They only think of new ways to suck money and tokens from players.

[MARCO CAIA]

Did you see the poor dodo that wrote in the other post? Poor guy, he's been playing since 2017 and still thinks it's about simply being a good manager. He knows very little about this game. He obviously did not read all our posts. Of course, it's about being a good manager, if i show up in a game with 28% training, players at 80% and morale not in superb I can lose almost every game. The formations and tactics I employ are always in line with Tope Eleven best advice. So If I lose when my team is at maximum capacity then there MUST BE OTHER factors. Some people are just too simple and gullible.

[vinim]

Yes, I saw what he wrote. It's funny, it seems that we are here criticizing with examples of our own to complain for complaining, for pleasure. You try everything, invest 500 green packs to turn your center forward into an excellent finisher, with great attributes, special abilities and he loses almost every chance even playing against much weaker defenses. Yes, I come to complain about these absurdities because I like to come here to complain. Funny guy him.

[MARCO CAIA]

that's not even the half of it, in the reality of this stupid game is when we invest a little real money, time, and effort, we try to find tactics, formations, and strategies, and then 9 games out of ten we cannot win against stronger teams but weaker teams beat us more than they should and when our teams are at maximum capacity then it cannot be about being a better manager, it's obviously something else and that is what we complain about. Some people still think that this game is created for us to have fun and it's a fair play game, they are living in obvious delusion. I do not play to lose, does anyone? I do not have fun when I lose, do you? Obviously, we cannot win all games although I wish I could say the same about all teams and managers, the team in first place in the league I am playing this season is 149% quality the second best is 143% the first place one out of 25 games won 22, tied 2 and lost one and the one they lost was against a team of 139% and only in the last few games of the season, my team is 137% so the question even to our good friend there is why could not my team tie or beat this team? I lost 5-0 at home against this team, does that sound normal considering other results? If this team loses against a team that is 10% weaker why did I lose 5-0 and not win? Same with the draws, this team drew against the second-place one at 143% which could be, then tied against a team of 145% ok that is possible but they lost against none else. The disparity is not due to manager ability but programmed outcomes. Every team slotted to win a league unless they are so much stronger than all others are all chosen to lose one game and tie one or two games. If you only lose one game and tie two you will always win the league it's a mathematical certainty it has nothing to do with managerial skills. If the closest team to my percentage is 5 or 6% and of those I tie two and lose a random one to whoever I will win every time. This guy does not understand that if a team is so much stronger than all the others you won't win the league ever. You need to be one of the two strongest teams in the league in order to have a shot and even then there is no certainty usually the tile goes to one of those two, it is extremely rare that a team that is not the strongest wins the league. Anything after the first two places is programmed by them as well as every competition to boot. In the cups, I have been beaten by teams much weaker than mine and with my team at max condition, so being a better manager is the useless excuse for defending the indefensible.