[Dec 12] Asymmetrical Friendlies Update available on more servers

Greetings Managers,

Starting with tomorrow's update, Asymmetrical Friendlies will be available to more than half of our playerbase. If you are unsure of how this feature works, you can read our previous thread on it, or check the explanation below:

• When you are challenged to a friendly, you will not receive any benefits or drawbacks of playing a friendly. You cannot earn boosters, cash, burn condition or receive injuries. You can still watch the match normally, change your formation and see the result after the match;
• When you challenge someone to a friendly, it will work the same way as it always has. Your players will burn condition, have a chance to receive injuries and earn boosters and cash;
• For friendly matches between servers, the game will check whether the Away team's server has this feature. If the Away team's server doesn't have the feature enabled, friendlies will work for them as they do at the moment.

Initial testing has been positive, so we're increasing the number of servers tested. If the results are good this time as well, then we'll roll out the feature to all managers.

Please use this thread for any discussion, suggestions or comments on this update.

Hello
This means if I didn't get an upgrade for the game today I'm not on thoses servers?? Because I'm eagerly awaiting this but I didn't get an update today or yterday..
Really pls just roll it out for all or do the ON/OFF button for friendlies like everyone's asking for....
Thanks

Sorry I can't see my keyboard for all the tumbleweed in here!!!!

Over a day since you made this big announcement and there has been 1 reply!!! You've taken that long that nobody cares anymore!!!!

Seriously Nordeus has become a joke of a company and more and more people are getting fed up with Nordeus, even your biggest contributor to this forum has had enough of Nordeus, thats embarrassing!!!!!

Forget about just having a ON/OFF button for friendlies or any of the other changes that are needed, just please, please sell the game to a company that might have even the slightest clue as to what they are doing!!!!

i arranged a friendly away to see if it worked on my server and it did not :( so still not accepting friendship request until it is done, so my question is how soon (estimate) do you think it will be done for all server`s

I think we will hear when it is fait accompli and no sooner, what if it fails on the wider test? But since it succeed initial test, fingers crossed it works. :D :D

sorry guys im not a fan of it
i challenged myself to a friendly as always, both managers are present. the away manager doesnt get anything

instead of negating away manager bonus, why not allow it when the away managers present?
and theres a funny thing id like to add, neither side can cancel the friendly. i like the classic X near the time like ye olden days, that always works for me

"loading friends..."

Tried it out today. No changes for the away team, works fine. Thanks for the fix :)

I got challenged for a friendly and my players still lost condition. I didn't even had time to cancel it because the time between is sometimes so little. Maybe it would be an idea that a friendly must be planned 1day before, so you both have the time to cancel it

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Originally Posted by kratjeuh

I got challenged for a friendly and my players still lost condition. I didn't even had time to cancel it because the time between is sometimes so little. Maybe it would be an idea that a friendly must be planned 1day before, so you both have the time to cancel it

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MDKII said they were slowly but surely making it active on all of the servers if the other managers are happy with it
another person stating you cant cancel a friendly. normally you can cancel a friendly with even 1 minute to go

"normally you can cancel a friendly with even 1 minute to go"

There's no normally comrade, even when I was online many times you can only wait for the match to start to make 6 or 7 changes and delete the guy from your friends list, especially if u have matches later that day... If they schedule 2 matches, 1 in 3 minutes and another later you can cancel the 2nd one...
That's my experience of it
Anyways new season is up, already got me 3 lvl39 players :) good luck all

Finally we don't have to worry about getting ambushed when we are away from our team. I'm not sure why some are complaining. If you want to get "perks" for both your teams then just arrange back-to-back friendlies with one team playing home.

I can now freely accept friend requests without having to worry that other managers play my team at less than optimal condition and getting injured. Besides, I can test my players without the risk of injuries or lowering condition and morale just before a crucial match.

Good luck for the new season. Good job Nordeus.

Thanks for the update. It needed to be done badly. Hope it works well and applies for all managers sooner. Keep up the good work and we wait for more updates soon.

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Originally Posted by littledude072

sorry guys im not a fan of it
i challenged myself to a friendly as always, both managers are present. the away manager doesnt get anything

instead of negating away manager bonus, why not allow it when the away managers present?
and theres a funny thing id like to add, neither side can cancel the friendly. i like the classic X near the time like ye olden days, that always works for me

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I totally agree.

hi guys,

there's been a lot of talk about these Asymmetrical Friendlies ..... I'm all for it.....

before the update I've always had friends arranging friendlies on a daily basis which was frustrating and was seriously contemplating removing them from FB. These unwanted friendlies cost me a few games and the semi in the cup which I lost as I had to play with my reserves.... anyway.. since the asymmetrical friendlies update I don't have to worry about checking my fixtures to cancel friendlies and the game has become much more social between my group of friends.....

I'm still challenged to friendlies but my players don't suffer from this... my friends which arrange friendlies get all the pros and cons from doing so but that's their vice...not mine...

as a result we created a FB group which friendlies are announced ahead of time (typically 1 day ahead) and we all place bets on the predicted correct score.....

so example....

Friend 1 vs Friend 2 match at 20:00 tomorrow

Betting pool
Friend 1 prediction 3:1
Friend 2 prediction 0:2
Friend 3 prediction 2:2
Friend 4 prediction 1:2
Friend 5 prediction 3:2
and so on.....

the guy that guesses the correct score gets a free beer :) with the cost shared between the loosers

at the moment i've won 2 beers and have to share the cost for 5 beers... this is pretty good fun and source of good banter at our local watering hole :)

My only suggestion would be to make friendly matches completely free of stamina loss and injury free for both players...although I would be drinking quite a lot more though :)

Cheers

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-C2CFV1ssS0...-with-beer.jpg

I just suffered from the unexpected friendly from one of my facebook friend..kinda frustrating with my players at 60% condition and below..
the best thing is I have a league game in the next 2 hours..zzz


and here the problems..this freaking Nordeus company don't have anyone in their team to create:

1. ONE (1) button to reject any friendly match to help us enable it while we're offline.
2. ONE (1) button to reset our team back to level 1 although it need to pay by tokens (20 tokens to reset our account for example).

....and it take up to more than a year to build a BUTTON (reject friendly at least)...zzz


and for Nordeus information, I just end my 90 days suffering with inviting my friends (not include that bastard who arranged friendly with me) to restart and play this freaking game because it's awesome!!

they told me that they want to play with their current fb account and all of us stop playing it for 70-90 days in order for Nordeus to reset our account and we could start together again at level 1..(and yes! we are token buyers!)

the question is, me and my friends (Nordeus consumers), need to unfriend our fb friends just because 'may be' they're new in the game and know nothing about disadvantages of friendly match? and we need to unfriend our fb friends just because of a GAME? WTF!!

I know the company strategy is to encourage (or forced) managers to buy med/health kits..and that could cost TOKENS!
but did the company realized that they are NOT giving any convenience to the managers?

and for the second suggestion above, RESET BUTTON..for me it's a win-win situation where the company could force managers to buy tokens to reset their team back to level 1..may be it could not be possible or 'too hard to develop', it's fine and it just an idea..

the new system is cool..the away team may not receive any benefits or injuries/low condition..but, just like what littledude072 stated, why not let away manager to present? and how if both managers would like to arrange friendly with their own will and want to have some benefits from the friendly games with their friends like been stated by kikouno?

either Nordeus create the BUTTON or both managers team free from injuries/low conditions/benefits, is cool I think..
Nordeus should stop thinking about PROFITS when it involve LITTLE BIT OF BENEFITS for their own CONSUMERS!!

sorry for my bad words or my English..it just my opinions..

Bull Crap, no way this "stuck in" Jose Mouri or whatever his name is could beat my team, so the Sofware Engineers gave his team "cheats" obviously, take him outa my friends list now thank you and replace it with a not "bot" team yes? https://apps.facebook.com/topeleven/...0&fb_bmpos=3_0

It is getting boring, same ol same ol, fill your pockets with our money and don't give us what we want. Get rid of that team in my friends list Jose or whatever his name is, I beat 3 teams in the last week 7-0 80 7-1 with the same stars as him and same squad layout so don't tell me that team can beat my team 3 games in a rowhttps://apps.facebook.com/topeleven/?fb_source=bookmark_apps&ref=bookmarks&count=0&fb_ bmpos=3_0

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Originally Posted by BigB79

Sorry I can't see my keyboard for all the tumbleweed in here!!!!

Over a day since you made this big announcement and there has been 1 reply!!! You've taken that long that nobody cares anymore!!!!

Seriously Nordeus has become a joke of a company and more and more people are getting fed up with Nordeus, even your biggest contributor to this forum has had enough of Nordeus, thats embarrassing!!!!!

Forget about just having a ON/OFF button for friendlies or any of the other changes that are needed, just please, please sell the game to a company that might have even the slightest clue as to what they are doing!!!!

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Good idea but thats means you need 2 friendlies to get packs one for away and home how does this work if the away team always has full health they will always win so you'll get nothing if you challenge your teams to tired by end of game away will walk all over you ?

After thinking about this .. doesn't this give an advantage to people with multiple accounts ? makes it easier to train players and swap them between teams if on same server.

Thank you for introducing asymmetrical friendlies. I think it is very good win-win strategy for managers and Nordeus.

But one thing... you could credit me for this idea of asymmetrical friendlies - I have posted it on August 16, 2013 (10:41 PM) here:
http://forum.topeleven.com/news-anno...ndlies-10.html
and slightly different version on August 19, 2013 (3:55 PM) here:
http://forum.topeleven.com/news-anno...ndlies-11.html

I do not wanna make an issue, but just credit my previous post would be both nice and enough...


Happy new year!

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Originally Posted by dmactz69

Good idea but thats means you need 2 friendlies to get packs one for away and home how does this work if the away team always has full health they will always win so you'll get nothing if you challenge your teams to tired by end of game away will walk all over you ?

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Hi,



solution would be real friendly match uppon previous mutual agreement as I suggested it earlier here:
http://forum.topeleven.com/news-anno...ndlies-11.html

But to be honest, the real and more sever problem was the previous way of handling friendlies: those times we were forced to play friendly when someone had invited us 4 minutes before start of the match (and we usually were not on line). I was shy to play such unfriendly friendlies against my friends - when I played to give my team lost courage back, I was always sorry that I spent energy of my frieds teams, and sometimes I injured their players. Asymmetrical friendlies solve this painful problem.

According my opinion, there were more managers suffering from enforcement to play unfriendly friendlies than managers playing real friendlies. So, Nordeus now solved bigger issue and I hope they will also solve your but minor issue - you can not play friendlies in old mode. From posting my idea in middle of August it took them 2 months and half (until start of November) to introduce this solution just in testing mode to several servers, now it is tested and number of servers with asymmetrical friendlies is expanding. You could hope they also introduce one time (may be again in 3 months?) as a chioce the real friendlies uppon previous muttual agreement. I have one idea how to introduce it very easy, but I post it in stand-alone post :)

As some managers complaining that they miss old-time-friendlies where both of them, challenger and challengee, lost energy, got injured, but both of them gains experience, I bring very simple idea how to incorporate this old-time-friendlies mode into new one. I am suggesting it because I am scared by many voice which has been raised these days against asymmetrical friendlies and because I am 100% convinced the introduction of asymmetrical friendlies is very good step forward to improve game. So my idea is as follows:


Introduction:
Let us have two managers X and Y. Let us also assume the X challenges Y.
Now it means that players in team X will lose energy, have possibility to got injury, and got experience. Players in team Y are intacted.
Now there are also notifications send to Y, when Y is challenged by X.

Suggestion:
Nordeus could put new button into such messages "submit match" or "join match". This new button could change present button "deny the match" which makes no sense in the mode of asymmetrical friendlies (when your team is intacted, why deny the match). (Note: I am playing T11 in Czech language, so I am not sure the name "deny the match" of the button.)
So, when X challenges Y, Y receives message with button "submit match".

If Y presses the button then Y will play real friendly match against X with all pros and cons (also Y will lose players energy, got them injured and his/her players gain experience).

If Y does not press the button ("submit match"), the X will play asymmetrical friendly i.e. only team X will be affected and the team Y will be intacted.

There could be also second button for immediate rejecting of real friendly match, in case when Y rejects friendly the X will play asymmetrical friendly against Y (it means only team X will be affected).

Because of technical reasons there could be some time limit, let us say 30 minutes until start of friendly match you will have option to submit this match or just let your challenger to play asymmetrical friendly himself/herself.
And it will be up to you as a challenger what kind of friendly match you are looking for:

- if you just looking for improving of your team, you could play asymmetrical friendly and you could set very soon start of the match, e.g. in 4 minutes

- if you are looking for comparison of your team with team of a friend, you could offer real friend match to your friend, so you have to set some late start of the match, e.g. in 10 hours, in a day etc., so your friend have enough time for response i.e. submitting the match

- if you are looking only for comparison friendly matches and you are not interested in asymmetrical friendlies, you have to check your schedule several minutes before start of friendly match you offered and in case it is not submitted by friend, you could cancel it

It would be nice from Nordeus if they include some note of the status of friendly match - when X challenges Y, the match will be noted as "asymmetrical" until the Y would submit match, then it would be noted as "submitted". The seekers of real friendlies/comparison matches could easily check their schedule and see which offered matches are submitted by challengees and which are not. Another option is note offered friendly match first as "unresolved". If the Y submit it, it will be noted as "submitted" . But as a "asymmetrical" it will be noted after the Y lost its chance to submit to the match, i.e. in the mean time between start of the match and the end of time when Y could submit to the match.


Summary of suggestion:
- when X challenges Y, the Y will be notified by message
- inside message will be button for submitting the the match, there could be also button for immediate rejection of the match
- by pressing submitting button the Y will play real friendly match against X, i.e. both teams will be fully affected by the match
- by pressing the rejecting button or by not-pressing submitting button in the time limit (e.g. 30 minutes until the start of the match) the Y will rejects real friendly match, the X will play asymmetrical friendly, i.e. only team X will be fully affected by the match, the team Y will be intacted
- in the schedule the rejected or not-submitted matches are noted as "asymmetrical", submitted matches as "submitted", optionally there could be three types of notes: "Submitted" for submitted matches, "Unresolved" where challengee has not responded yet, but still has time to respond, and "Asymmetrical" for matches which were rejected or not responded in time by the challenge

Just been challenged to a friendly - LOST CONDITION. FFS :mad::mad:

two different people arranged a friendly with me wihin an hour I have had to use so many rests it's a joke. you should have to agree to the friendly if not its should not happen

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Originally Posted by Francesko901

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- when X challenges Y, the Y will be notified by message
- inside message will be button for submitting the the match, there could be also button for immediate rejection of the match
- by pressing submitting button the Y will play real friendly match against X, i.e. both teams will be fully affected by the match
- by pressing the rejecting button or by not-pressing submitting button in the time limit (e.g. 30 minutes until the start of the match) the Y will rejects real friendly match, the X will play asymmetrical friendly, i.e. only team X will be fully affected by the match, the team Y will be intacted
- in the schedule the rejected or not-submitted matches are noted as "asymmetrical", submitted matches as "submitted", optionally there could be three types of notes: "Submitted" for submitted matches, "Unresolved" where challengee has not responded yet, but still has time to respond, and "Asymmetrical" for matches which were rejected or not responded in time by the challenge

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yep, agreed
i dont really miss the old time friendlies, but it just doesnt make sense why would the away teams gains/losses be negated if the managers present

and a small note to the guys that dont have this feature on your servers yet. MDKII (and probably most of nordeus) are away until the 10thish, so yeah, good luck to you guys. try and message the friendly senders if theyre FB friends and stuff

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Originally Posted by Francesko901

As some managers complaining that they miss old-time-friendlies where both of them, challenger and challengee, lost energy, got injured, but both of them gains experience, I bring very simple idea how to incorporate this old-time-friendlies mode into new one. I am suggesting it because I am scared by many voice which has been raised these days against asymmetrical friendlies and because I am 100% convinced the introduction of asymmetrical friendlies is very good step forward to improve game. So my idea is as follows:


Introduction:
Let us have two managers X and Y. Let us also assume the X challenges Y.
Now it means that players in team X will lose energy, have possibility to got injury, and got experience. Players in team Y are intacted.
Now there are also notifications send to Y, when Y is challenged by X.

Suggestion:
Nordeus could put new button into such messages "submit match" or "join match". This new button could change present button "deny the match" which makes no sense in the mode of asymmetrical friendlies (when your team is intacted, why deny the match). (Note: I am playing T11 in Czech language, so I am not sure the name "deny the match" of the button.)
So, when X challenges Y, Y receives message with button "submit match".

If Y presses the button then Y will play real friendly match against X with all pros and cons (also Y will lose players energy, got them injured and his/her players gain experience).

If Y does not press the button ("submit match"), the X will play asymmetrical friendly i.e. only team X will be affected and the team Y will be intacted.

There could be also second button for immediate rejecting of real friendly match, in case when Y rejects friendly the X will play asymmetrical friendly against Y (it means only team X will be affected).

Because of technical reasons there could be some time limit, let us say 30 minutes until start of friendly match you will have option to submit this match or just let your challenger to play asymmetrical friendly himself/herself.
And it will be up to you as a challenger what kind of friendly match you are looking for:

- if you just looking for improving of your team, you could play asymmetrical friendly and you could set very soon start of the match, e.g. in 4 minutes

- if you are looking for comparison of your team with team of a friend, you could offer real friend match to your friend, so you have to set some late start of the match, e.g. in 10 hours, in a day etc., so your friend have enough time for response i.e. submitting the match

- if you are looking only for comparison friendly matches and you are not interested in asymmetrical friendlies, you have to check your schedule several minutes before start of friendly match you offered and in case it is not submitted by friend, you could cancel it

It would be nice from Nordeus if they include some note of the status of friendly match - when X challenges Y, the match will be noted as "asymmetrical" until the Y would submit match, then it would be noted as "submitted". The seekers of real friendlies/comparison matches could easily check their schedule and see which offered matches are submitted by challengees and which are not. Another option is note offered friendly match first as "unresolved". If the Y submit it, it will be noted as "submitted" . But as a "asymmetrical" it will be noted after the Y lost its chance to submit to the match, i.e. in the mean time between start of the match and the end of time when Y could submit to the match.


Summary of suggestion:
- when X challenges Y, the Y will be notified by message
- inside message will be button for submitting the the match, there could be also button for immediate rejection of the match
- by pressing submitting button the Y will play real friendly match against X, i.e. both teams will be fully affected by the match
- by pressing the rejecting button or by not-pressing submitting button in the time limit (e.g. 30 minutes until the start of the match) the Y will rejects real friendly match, the X will play asymmetrical friendly, i.e. only team X will be fully affected by the match, the team Y will be intacted
- in the schedule the rejected or not-submitted matches are noted as "asymmetrical", submitted matches as "submitted", optionally there could be three types of notes: "Submitted" for submitted matches, "Unresolved" where challengee has not responded yet, but still has time to respond, and "Asymmetrical" for matches which were rejected or not responded in time by the challenge

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The simpler trigger from asymetrical friendly for being old sysmtem's friendly may be wether Y attend the match or not..

id like a simple answer to a simple question
what if your server has this, but sends a practice match 2.0 beta, now with bonuses! to someone on a server without it activated yet? will the away manager get the usual gains n pains (and vice versa)

my guess would be that an out of sync error would occur and crash the entire internet