But token buyers could watch the videos as well as non-token buyers. I don't think that was the main issue. I think some people got the videos, some didn't, based on where they lived. That wasn't fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by shwanko07
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But token buyers could watch the videos as well as non-token buyers. I don't think that was the main issue. I think some people got the videos, some didn't, based on where they lived. That wasn't fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by shwanko07
shwanko07, you are getting me wrong!Quote:
Originally Posted by shwanko07
In most parts I am really appreciating what July Fourth is doing, disregarding if paid by Nordeus or not. Good job if paid, incredible ambitious if not. Great help for many user in many cases.
What I am criticizing is, that July Fourth - as soon as the critics on Nordeus are getting heavy - always tries to calm down the situation by pointing out that the situation can be seen from different angles. This is a typical public relation method when criticism gets severe.
Look at politics, you will find very similar situations and actions. (e.g.: ooops, yes, we are scanning all mails etc., yes, that is basically espionage and illegal, but you have to see how many attacs we have been able to avoid. Not one single example. Bullsh*t)
And as July Fourth is acting that way, I dared to express my doubts about hers/his amateur status, underlining that doubts by mentioning the number of posts that I have NOT counted - dont have the time for that. The number of postings a person has done so far is shown underneath your avatar together with the date of forum registration... ;)
Now back to the reason why I reacted a bit zynical. I tried to show a way how we can force Nordeus to return to the old system where you can earn the packs you really need. And some posts later someone who accidentially needs money confirms for Nordeus that there certainly will be enough people to look at the videos they get paid for showing us. Is'nt that reason enough to get zynical?
And the reason why I have been questioning July Fourth status in public:
Look at yourself: Over the discussion it looks like you have "forgotten" that this will be your last season if Nordeus doesnt change back to the old system.... ;) (at least according to one of your first posting in this thread)
Now, this is something I do understand! I myself have been frequently thinking about quitting the game. But to hell, I like it! Difficult...
Hope you've got my points now and I hope you understand that I bear absolute no agression against July Fourth and her/his work. Paid or not!
All the best
I have an answer from my support ticket and here it is:
Hi John,
Thank you for contacting us :)
We are aware there is a problem with free boosters on facebook app.
Our developers are working on this issue. We hope they will find a solution for this as soon as possible.
PS: Top Eleven tip ‘’Do not forget to set penalty takers order’’ :)
Thank you for your patience and effort to improve our game.
Top Eleven Support Team
Hmm,Quote:
Originally Posted by reddeviljohn
i cant really believe it, but i will give it a chance. If the boostervids will be back again, i'll spend some € for new players next season. If not, bye bye T11 and back to the routes with the good old EA soccer Manager.
greets
Darn, people will think I work for Nordeus in a few months..Quote:
Originally Posted by guido
That's BS of course, there's no problem with the boosters unless they made it that way. As long as we can see the videos for cash we should be able to see videos for all the boosters. They want to test us to see how many clicks they get and if they get enough they will leave it that way. They will get none from me anyway...
The loss of free bosters alread hit my team hard, I got another injury of my best defender and he wont be up for the CL semi 2nd leg (which would be hard to win even if he was playing). I guess I better dont invest any packs into this semifinal and just bring the season to an end, semifinals was my goal at season start and final isnt that much more cash. Still, if I had farmed packs the last few days, I could have healed him up. I want 2 million cash and a CL trophy from nordeus if this all was a "bug".
:P
I will manage without the free pack but this further widens the gap between buyers (who can keep their best players up 24/7, thus winning more games and getting better progress) and the low budget teams (small buyers or free offer farmers, who will have to sit out short-term injuries, lowering their team quality and their progress).
Yeah exactly, if everyone refuses to click the video for cash button, their revenue will drop and they'll realise they need to put it back. You're not giving up much by refusing either, the cash is so insignificant to anyone who has actually left themselves money for the new season so everyone leave that button alone and we'll get the boosters back.Quote:
Originally Posted by aiureah
same story 3 injuries from stretching in 3 days all out for 5-6 days !! same time when they took out the booster !! coincidence? doubt itQuote:
Originally Posted by Bermudo
I have 225 T , but will not spend any of red bags .. i rather lose CL than bullied by money scums Nordues
I am sure they could of fixed it by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by reddeviljohn
i got notice that, if i do training with full team squad, i have always 1 injured. so ensure at least 1 of your player in rest .
I have one word.... ASSHOLES
Once again my cup final game tomorrow is 20 f@%*ing minutes after my league game with the guy in 2nd place in the league, my league is not safe yet and this big 6 pointer will guarantee my league victory or leave it still with a slim chance of me being runner up.
12 minutes later my cup final game will start with a team 2 levels higher which is going to be tough but with my players energy zapped from the league game im more than likely going to fall short of the cup final game.
Of course i can waste 2 god damn tokens in changing the time of one of the game but why the hell should i, these booster vids will not be returned like we have all stated before, the new set up of the cash booster vid looks to be a permanent change.
IF WE DO NOT GET THE GREEN AND RED BOOSTER VIDS BACK THEN YOU NEED TO STOP PUTTING MATCHES 15 MINUTES APART MAKING PLAYERS SPEND MONEY JUST SO THEY HAVE SOME CHANCE OF ATTEMPTING TO WIN BOTH GAMES.
I accept this happens sometimes but nearly every day is past the joke, and the cup final 20 minutes apart from the crucial league game with the guy just behind me in the league takes the piss
I am scared to train:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by tongly45
what makes me laugh is people who used to get tons of boosters are now equal with the majority of people. I could only count on the daily gifts of boosters, while many others with iphones were getting upwards of 20-30 per day.Quote:
Originally Posted by reddeviljohn
The mentality of the majority of managers will not change since losing a booster or two a day makes little difference....but to the booster farmer, I can only laugh. ;)
Oh yes cracicot, laugh about it!
But accept, that the majority of managers will still have their boosters, but will spend token for it.
NO????
I know, that the majority of managers denies that they are token buyers... But let me give you two quotes:
quote 1) as an answer to one of my postings:
"...what is surprising by winning without spending a fortune? i win lots of titles without spending a penny in this game?
quote 2), same person, as answer to another post:
"I have 225 T , but will not spend any of red bags .. i rather lose CL than bullied by money... "
(Now show me a way to have 225 token in place without having spent money... :D)
Understand, that Nordeus is a company with 100+ employees... their expenses are enormous. There is no chance for them to survive just by selling showings of some advertising videos. They are surviving and making profit because the majority of the managers is spending an awful lot of money on token.
Now what you are laughing about is, that those few managers who cannot afford to buy token and spend them on boosters will have less chance and you are laughing about, that managers who are token buyers have to spend more money to keep their teams in form.
Well, cracicot, if you really are amused about these facts, it is very easy to make you laugh ;)
I think it's good that they are gone but at the same time Nordeus need to tune down the injuries and other things that you need the boosters for.
Guido, amigo, you are barking up the wrong tree.Quote:
Originally Posted by guido
I am laughing at the people complaining about not being able to booster farm anymore. If that was you, sorry to hear that you cant do that anymore....no, scratch that - I'm not sorry at all. :p
I like the fact that they took away the free booster videos. They were being abused and not everyone could access them, so it was unfair to begin with. I applaud any action taken by Nordeus to make things more fair.
So what if people who dont buy tokens have to waste tokens on buying boosters now. Cry me a river.
so what if token buyers have to continue to do what they have always done...buy boosters. Now they have to buy more. Cry me a bigger river.
What still amazes me to this day is that I am not taking part in the 35T league. It is probably the most fair competition in T11! If all T11 was like that, then there would be no complaining about NGE bull**** with strange, impossible results when there are huge differences in quality. Formations and tactics would be boss. you would go into EVERY game with a chance to win against ~equal quality. cup competitions would be much more fair.
But that is not how Nordeus makes money and until they decide to do it all like that, then we will have a forum full of whinging and complaining.
there are many managers who have not spent any money on this game and have 225 tokens and more.Quote:
Originally Posted by guido
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Originally Posted by magic3
Magic, please unveil how that works! (honest!)
Maybe that in US or UK or elsewhere there are possibilities to get a relevant number of token really for free, but I have not found such a possibility here. Yes, there are offers, but at the end you always have to buy something (that you mostly dont really need - e.g. a T-shirt or whatever). And this I concider also as spending money.
So if other countries have better possibilities for token farming, OK. (I am not jealous and dont complain about...)
But otherwise... pls unveil! :)
unfortunately, i don't have any other secret than the fact that a lot of players have access to many free offers. and unlike in your country, those offers are truly free. that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by guido
so am not the only one !! ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tongly45
hate you Nordeus
hhh i always play my league games between 11:00 to 18.30 GT max .. now in CL 2 semi matches , my league are played at 20:00 & 20:30, just less an hour before my CL match !! why suddenly League time changed? the answer is simple .. Nordeus is after your tokens , they will try every trick in the book to make you buy tokens .. what they don't know is we will be smarter and quit the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by macca7
Cracicot my friend,Quote:
Originally Posted by cracicot
I am buying enough token and I am also using them for buying all sort of boosters when I need them.
But yes, I have been one of those, who - whenever it was possible - farmed boosters.
But I never complained, when Nordeus' programmers (or their partnercompany for the advertising stuff) blocked the possibility to look at a video 3,5,10 or more times per day and only had the chance to watch that video once. (Which is fair, as the advertising client is not really interested that one single person watches the video 15 times in one hour...)
The criticism is, that Nordeus wants us to watch that damned videos as often as possible (so that they can charge their other ad-clients accordingly) without offering an adequate remuneration anymore.
I watch videos... I spend time... (basically a priceless value!) I do that, knowing that someone gets paid for my waste of time.
All right, and now I expect some FAIR "payment" for it.
If I do not have such a possibility or only a reduced one - OK, fine.
But changing roules within the game will cause reactions (which we have in this threat).
And if they think they have to, they should have at least the balls to publicly announce it as Nordeus and not hide behind the avatar of a little girl...
You are writing about fairness in competition... Well... I dont know... Yes, certainly that would be great...
Imagine, in real life... A sponsor like Abramovitch would not make sense at all... the players would earn reasonable wages (not millions)
The ticketprices would be low... how beautiful amateur-soccer could be... But do we really want to see that?
(recently watched a match on TV from ... dont know when... with Beckenbauer playing... Boy, how slow they played a that time...
And the arena looked so poor and uncomfortable...)
For T11 that means: If we want to use a well programmed, challenging software, we have to spend some money.
But if I spend money, I want to be treated as a client and want to be treated fair.
And I do not want to be charged twice - first have to buy token, second be expected to help them earn additional money (just to pay Mourinho, who certainly is not an unexpensive figurehead). And I dont want to be cheated in the game (e.g. loosing important games against nobodys etc) only for giving non-token-buyers the feeling to have a chance...
OK, in a way it is unfair that one can effort to spend x-amout of money to build up a team of 7-star players and another one dont has that possibility. But, hey, that's life. In reality aswell as in T11.
(And I hope that Nordeus sooner or later will come up with a sort of "Abramovitch Award" :D :D )
I wont quit the game...it will just fade away. But Nordeus wont ever see any money from me again. I dont care if they fix every bug. I spent my last money on tokens last month and now I will do what the majority of managers do...compete without buying tokens. I dont care if I win anymore = the key to enjoying the game = no more lofty expectations.Quote:
Originally Posted by shwanko07
It was not the removal of booster videos. It was the lack of action on fixing the game.
good post guido except for insinuating that July is a Nordeus employee/representative/whatever. You are far from truth on that one.
Firstly dickhead getting 4 or 5 green boosters somedays isnt booster farming but when i constantly and almost on a daily basis am getting cup or champ league games within 15 minutes of league games, well it really takes the piss, tonight for example they have put my league game at 9.12pm and champs lg semi final game at 10.02pm whats the fkin point in that, we have the whole day to schedule games, why are my games always so close together and then you say we are complaining for having are few booster packs taken away per day, i wont buy **** all from these robbing ****s but in fairness, is everybody having so many games so close together or am i just a little unlucky, therefore 4 or 5 booster packs somedays for watching some lame ass video is neededQuote:
Originally Posted by cracicot
http://forum.topeleven.com/suggestio...tml#post111331
All those in agreement that free boosters are essential and it must be ,because removal has opened a can of worms with 265 reply's, GET ON THE ABOVE THREAD, and make enough noise that Nordeus have to listen by posting booster removal as one of your main issues
Really? I can understand the frustration, but why the insult? I did not make the decision to remove the boosters.Quote:
Originally Posted by macca7
Sorry that you feel you need the extra boosters and need to insult others when they like that they are gone from the game. We all feel like Nordeus is taking the piss on this, but I just state how much more fairer the game will be. Sue me.
Count me out. it is not even in the top 5 of my issues with T11. I prefer this decision, and I'm sure I am in the minority, but I see the forest through the trees and can see more fairness now. Others will disagree, but that is their right. I will just keep plugging away at it like I do every day...without booster farming...like normal = I got all my trophies from playing normal without booster farming and a few tokens here and there.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanmeg
Booster videos are NOT essential - they are a privilege which was abused by many and taken away rightfully.
[QUOTE=cracicot;111421]Really? I can understand the frustration, but why the insult? I did not make the decision to remove the boosters.
Sorry that you feel you need the extra boosters and need to insult others when they like that they are gone from the game. We all feel like Nordeus is taking the piss on this, but I just state how much more fairer the game will be. Sue me.
It was the way you made the comment after i had showed my disgust at certain issues, if i am honest it wouldnt be such a big deal that the booster vids have gone if on a daily basis my games werent always so close together so you have to understand that they are and i have complained about this before, ive asked a lot of people and so far it seems i have more games every season so close together than anybody else whom i have asked, id say at least 4 or 5 days a week my games are within the same hour and a lot of the time 15-20 minutes apart and that is why a few booster videos now and again helped a little as i should not have to purchase booster packs when it seems my games are always put so close together maybe to get me to pay...i dunno but there are 24 hours in a day, i remember i sometimes would get games at 9.30am, sometimes 11.15am, maybe 1.22pm ect ect but in this huge gap of 13 or 14 hours they put my games together so once i win one game my team are low on energy for the next and this has been nearly every season and a lot more than others are getting = one huge piss take
Well I had CL match today with a league match an hour or so late,r I just fielded 5 subs for theguys who's condition was really low for the league game which was after and because they were topped up with rest...I won both games, so I guess there is a way of living after the boosters have gone....By the way I am in the CL final on Fri and hope to bring it home to old Blighty :), if I dont I will not be on here for a while...right were is that suit and tie to lead the team out lol.
[QUOTE=macca7;111434]Still doesnt excuse the insult. We all complain about the 5 mins between games issue. It happens to all of us. They LOVE to schedule CL and CUP quarters, semis, and final games within 5-10 mins of each other to promote token usage. All that to say, take your frustrations out on Nordeus, not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by cracicot
[QUOTE=cracicot;111450]Quote:
Originally Posted by macca7
Yep no need for being rude to peeps.
Don`t tell me they have got rid of cash too ? i normally get 2/3 video`s which pays for my players wages and i`v had nothing this morning ? anyone else had no video`s for cash ?
We don't know because.... wait for it.... we are on STRIKE!Quote:
Originally Posted by spornybol
Well, I have no videos, never had any. I'm just wondering- is it just me, or the game does really not reward you for your efforts? At all?
I just won the cup and... nothing? Some cash and that's all?
Considerind that some people make 500-600 tokens per month, while I have to pay for every token with real money, this is just stupid. I pay for my tokens and when I finally manage to accomplish something... I feel cheated. 100 bucks a month get me a what? A stupid picture next to my profile pic next season? Not good enough!
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Originally Posted by SSDD
They should give you a heap of tokens for winning the title,CL and cup.....that way I am sure they would get even more peeps really trying to win these things.
Well it sounds logical. I mean- you spend 200-300-500-1000 tokens a season, why not get... I don't know, 20 tokens for winning the league, 40 for the CL, 50 for the cup. It's not much but, it's something. And they'll keep me motivated for nexs season. The way things stand now, I only get 35 tokens per season. And with no real rewards from the competitions I can play "the Arsenal way"- finish top 4 every season, play some CL and cup matches and... SPEND NO CASH AT ALL.Quote:
Originally Posted by leddy
Magic3 !Quote:
Originally Posted by magic3
Look, it is totally unimportant if July is or is not a Nordeus representative!
It does not change anything. she/he is doing a great job for helping managers and from time to time - by intention or not - also for Nordeus.
The reason why I personally think she/he is somehow related (and again: I dont mind) is simply the number of posts...
See, my company runs a forum since 1999. We have some 30000 (still) registered users which opened more thatn 228000 threats with a total of more than 2,4 million posts. And we have members in that forum who are there from almost the beginning and posting almost daily. And such members in more than 10 years did some 11000 to 12000 postings.
July Fourth - according to what can be seen underneath her/his avatar did this number of postings in just bit more than half a year!
That does not only look like a fulltime job, that IS a fulltime job!
Now, if paid for: OK with me. As said, she/he is doing a great job and it is absolutely not condemnable to do that sort of job and I even would not blame Nordeus to have such sort of "secret agents" - they can be very helpful for both, the forum operator aswell as the forum members. (And you can believe me, I know what I am talking about :) )
And If July Fourth is not in any relation with Nordeus, then he/she is one of the most remarkable forum members I ever have encountered.
In both cases July Fourth has my deepest respect.
But that doesnt change my opinion on the effect some of his/her postings have on the public opinion or the here in the forum.
Hope that clarifies eventual missunderstandings/missinterpretations.
you should start calling it a thread and not threat. Just because of the vast difference in meanings, i don't want you to get in trouble somewhere :)
Even if i dont care if July is a secret agent or "other"or 007, i found that he is doing a great job in the forum as a member and as an admin. that he used to be. I want only to remind for the history that he had opposed in many posts for TE 11 updates, so i dont think thats its the case that he is calming down people, check some posts of him regarding new cup system introduction.