Cheating.

So, this morning I played a match, and was watching all the way through on my brothers PC.

The thing is, that even though my team was far superior, the possession stat stayed at 20% (me) 80% (opposition) for the whole match, and did not move once, even though I was at home and also watching the game on my brothers PC.

The players name is R.D.F UNITED

I have since found out that some players are using cheat engine to manipulate the match stats.
There's even forums out there on how to do it.

Why is this allowed?

I would say that something needs to be done about this, because people will not spend money to buy tokens when other players with crappy teams can just cheat their way through matches.
I know I won't be spending any more until this is fixed and cheaters banned from the game.
It's a common occurrence on facebook, and it is killing the game for me, just as it has killed other games for people.

By the way, even with his cheating, I still got a 1-1 draw, which in itself says a lot.

If the opponent had 80% possession, and you 20%, it probably means you were playing an illegal formation.

Post the formation you fielded?

its not cheating, u just use wrong formation and maybe u use bug formation.. just check here for more information http://forum.topeleven.com/formation...ion-rules.html :)

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Originally Posted by Sxrenity

If the opponent had 80% possession, and you 20%, it probably means you were playing an illegal formation.

Post the formation you fielded?

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The formation I played was the same one I always play.
All players in their correct positions.

Read properly - the opponents possession did not deviate from 80% for the entire match - not once did it move from 80% and I know this because I was watching the whole time.

It did not fluctuate as it usually does it went straight to 80% and stayed there the entire match and did not move.

I trust I have made myself clear.

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Originally Posted by Sxrenity

If the opponent had 80% possession, and you 20%, it probably means you were playing an illegal formation.

Post the formation you fielded?

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Yup, if you fielded an illegal formation, HE might be the one who feels cheated

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Originally Posted by Eos

The formation I played was the same one I always play.
All players in their correct positions.

Read properly - the opponents possession did not deviate from 80% for the entire match - not once did it move from 80% and I know this because I was watching the whole time.

It did not fluctuate as it usually does it went straight to 80% and stayed there the entire match and did not move.

I trust I have made myself clear.

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It's not about players in position. Formations should have at least 3 defenders, 2 players out wide, and one forward. The penalty for failing to meet these criteria is 20% possession maximum

Please make yourself clearer

Once again, please read the post properly.

It was THE SAME FORMATION I ALWAYS USE, AND HIS POSSESSION DID NOT DEVIATE FROM 80% FOR THE ENTIRE DURATION OF THE GAME, IT DID NOT FLUCTUATE, IT DID NOT MOVE, AND I USED A PERFECTLY LEGAL FORMATION, THE SAME ONE I ALWAYS USE.

I am in my 5th season and have won league titles, cups and european cups.
I am well aware of the formation rules.

The simple fact is that the guy was cheating using cheat engine.

Well tell us what it is then! Post a screenshot. You're just repeating yourself in bold without providing any of the extra information you've been asked for. How the hell are we supposed to help you?

If you are using a legal formation your experience could be useful to others

my formation is and always has been, this

GK, FB, CB, CB, FB - DMC, MC, MC, AMR, AML, ST.

I am not an idiot, nor am I a noob.
This is not a bug, this is cheating, plain and simple.

The only way to get the possession at 80% and keep it there for the entire game, without deviating from it once, is to use a cheat engine, where you change the value of the fields to get the percentage rate you want.

There are even tutorials on how to do it.

I want to know what the people who run the game are going to do about it, or they can kiss goodbye to the revenue from my account, and all my friends who play as well.

if you can post screenshots etc, we might be able to help you more.

We aren't saying you are an idiot, or a noob, nor is posting the same thing over and over again in bold going to solve your problem.

I'm assuming your players had decent morale/condition?

you are not the only one complain about it. so i thinks there is a bug. Conctact nordeus for help, i think they has also some other problems, for exemple many facebook friend has disparated (i'm sure they don't remove me,) and many experience player complain about unfair results.
could you post stat of the match here ?
and for some what, 1 of my player earn always 114 exp regardless of how long he did in the field...

4-5-1 V-style is legal, so this might be a minor glitch...

Of course my players were well rested and morale was good.

What people seem to be overlooking is that the percentage of possession from my opponent did not once move from 80%.
Not once during the whole match.

As I keep saying, I was watching live, and the possession never varied a single time. It went straight up to 80% for opponent and stayed there for the entire match, and didn't move once.
This is not possible unless a cheat engine is used.
The cheat engine allows people to keep variables such as possession at a set rate for the entire match - hence the 80% staying there and not moving from start to finish.

For what it's worth, here's the stats.
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As you can see, I played a weakish team because my opponents was so bad, but I was still miles ahead of his.

I really wish you would read my posts.

I have played the same formation for 5 seasons with absolutely no problems.

This guy cheated, plain and simple.

Does anyone know how I get in touch with the game developers, so I can make a complaint?

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Originally Posted by Eos

Of course.

What people seem to be overlooking is that the percentage of possession from my opponent did not once move from 80%.
Not once during the whole match.

As I keep saying, I was watching live, and the possession never varied a single time. It went straight up to 80% for opponent and stayed there for the entire match, and didn't move once.
This is not possible unless a cheat engine is used.
The cheat engine allows people to keep variables such as possession at a set rate for the entire match - hence the 80% staying there and not moving from start to finish.

For what it's worth, here's the stats.
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As you can see, I played a weakish team because my opponents was so bad, but I was still miles ahead of his.

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Is his GK is a player in other position playing as GK?

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Originally Posted by Eos

Of course.

What people seem to be overlooking is that the percentage of possession from my opponent did not once move from 80%.
Not once during the whole match.

As I keep saying, I was watching live, and the possession never varied a single time. It went straight up to 80% for opponent and stayed there for the entire match, and didn't move once.
This is not possible unless a cheat engine is used.
The cheat engine allows people to keep variables such as possession at a set rate for the entire match - hence the 80% staying there and not moving from start to finish.

For what it's worth, here's the stats.
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As you can see, I played a weakish team because my opponents was so bad, but I was still miles ahead of his.

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You have a DR, MR and AMR, that's your illegal formation you arrogant moron nOOb...

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Originally Posted by KoHearts

You have a DR, MR and AMR, that's your illegal formation you arrogant moron nOOb...

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LOL
yes, that's why I have played the same formation FOR FIVE SEASON WITH NO PROBLEMS

What an arsehole.

lol you played 3 players on right. Now take this up the chin and don't ask for advice and then insult people who are trying to help you, got it? You come across as a big time douche

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Originally Posted by pnr8555

Is his GK is a player in other position playing as GK?

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No, his players were all ok as far as formations go.

No issues there.

Hahahahahaha! Well done KoHearts! That's exactly it

We explained why a 20% possession might happen and this guy blathered on about how we are all fools and not reading his post properly!

RTFM Eos

also read this sarcastic thread about how regular forum members feel about you and people like you

http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...-all-time.html

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Originally Posted by magic3

lol you played 3 players on right. Now take this up the chin and don't ask for advice and then insult people who are trying to help you, got it? You come across as a big time douche

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So, I insult people who insult me first, and I'm the douche.

Gotcha.

I should have known not to ask on a forum.
They are always full of people who don't read the posts properly.

Not one single person has addressed the 2 points of 1) I have played this formation since I started the game, with no problems.
2) The percentage rate of possession went straight to 80% and did not move from that for the entire match. No deviation, nothing. Whic is impossible unless the player has manipulated it.

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Originally Posted by Eos

So, I insult people who insult me first, and I'm the douche.

Gotcha.

I should have known not to ask on a forum.
They are always full of people who don't read the posts properly.

Not one single person has addressed the 2 points of 1) I have played this formation since I started the game, with no problems.
2) The percentage rate of possession went straight to 80% and did not move from that for the entire match. No deviation, nothing. Whic is impossible unless the player has manipulated it.

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1. I reread the first page and you are the one who started putting everything in bold and telling people they are not reading your posts clearly. You started it.
2. It is normal for possession to go straight to 80% when you are playing illegal possession.
3. As I can see forum helped you as we explained to you that you are playing illegal formation so you should be thankful.
4. I do not have explanation for why this didn't occur to you before. I guess consider yourself lucky.

I'd like to see a screenshot of his actual formation layout.

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Originally Posted by Eos

So, I insult people who insult me first, and I'm the douche.

Gotcha.

I should have known not to ask on a forum.
They are always full of people who don't read the posts properly.

Not one single person has addressed the 2 points of 1) I have played this formation since I started the game, with no problems.
2) The percentage rate of possession went straight to 80% and did not move from that for the entire match. No deviation, nothing. Whic is impossible unless the player has manipulated it.

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Err, no one insulted you earlier, until you started repeating yourself in bold - which as you should know is the equivalent of shouting at everyone

You were essentially insulting us about not reading your post properly, when in fact you only provided very limited information

1) I'm surprised if this is the case, please provide a screenshot of a game where you played three players on one side of the field and got more than 20% possession

2) when you play three players on one side, or break any other formation rules, your possession is automatically limited to 20%

If I was a betting man, which I'm not, I would say that your normal formation is the one you said in your first explanation of your formation GK, FB, CB, CB, FB - DMC, MC, MC, AMR, AML, ST. If you were correct in that that is your normal formation, than it's not illegal and that's why you had "normal" possession, and then you changed MC to MR for this game.

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Originally Posted by Eos

So, I insult people who insult me first, and I'm the douche.

Gotcha.

I should have known not to ask on a forum.
They are always full of people who don't read the posts properly.

Not one single person has addressed the 2 points of 1) I have played this formation since I started the game, with no problems.
2) The percentage rate of possession went straight to 80% and did not move from that for the entire match. No deviation, nothing. Whic is impossible unless the player has manipulated it.

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/me thinks you're tarded.

here's your 2 points:

1) that formation is ILLEGAL (3players on the same side of the pitch DR-MR-AMR) now:
1a) you played that formation since you started the game without noticing your 20-80% possession
1b) you did NOT play that exact same formation since the start of the game (which me, and everybody else i guess, will bet on)

2) 20-80% possession comes from an ILLEGAL formation, (the one you were using since you started the game)

3) There's NO WAY to manipulate the game, and there's NO known hack for T11

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Originally Posted by magic3

If I was a betting man, which I'm not, I would say that your normal formation is the one you said in your first explanation of your formation GK, FB, CB, CB, FB - DMC, MC, MC, AMR, AML, ST. If you were correct in that that is your normal formation, than it's not illegal and that's why you had "normal" possession, and then you changed MC to MR for this game.

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Again spot on analysis

Honestly, I hope you've read the responses and it has helped you for the future Eos. Follow your own advice and read carefully what has been posted here

This is a very helpful forum and several people have taken time out to assist you, despite a very abrasive manner on your part. Perhaps you will come to appreciate that fact

Just trying to post a clearer answer and without the bias of being insulted in a previous post ...

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Originally Posted by Eos

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Not one single person has addressed the 2 points of 1) I have played this formation since I started the game, with no problems.
2) The percentage rate of possession went straight to 80% and did not move from that for the entire match. No deviation, nothing. Whic is impossible unless the player has manipulated it.

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1. You haven't, proof is in your own posts:

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Originally Posted by Eos

my formation is and always has been, this

GK, FB, CB, CB, FB - DMC, MC, MC, AMR, AML, ST.

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Originally Posted by Eos

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Many people have pointed out that you have an MR instead of one of the MCs that you mentioned earlier.

2. Again, as many people said - having 3 players on the right (or on the left) is illegal. When you have an illegal formation, possession is automatically fixed to 20/80 to your opponents favor. This explains it all, you just don't seem to understand it and assume that nobody read your post "correctly".
You've played the whole match, all 90 minutes with an illegal formation and yes - that causes the possession to not change from 20/80, unless your opponent switches to an illegal formation as well.

Forget about the cheats, hacks, whatever ... those are all scams.

I think someone needs to take it on the chin, apologise now he realises he was wrong and get on with the rest of the season!

oh yeah, don't make the same mistake again

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Originally Posted by John Tompkins

I think someone needs to take it on the chin, apologise now he realises he was wrong and get on with the rest of the season!

oh yeah, don't make the same mistake again

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Agreed, lets all have a big forum /hug!