How did he win?

In the screenshots, you can see that the guy has won friendly match despite my big advantage in player quality. So I wonder, was it due to possession bonus, or his odd formation, or just luck?

As a little background, he apparently befriended me in order to help his friend, so this friendly match with me before the important game with his friend (much stronger than his own team) was his help. I won the important one anyways. But I wonder how he won this one, and from this angle his formation looks especially intriguing.
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This guy is genius
How did he win ???

How the hell did that guy win? The formation of his team is illegal but he still has 43% possession. You used a legal formation so I don't know why he doesn't have 20% possession and how he managed to win the game. This is weird.

That's a stumper! His formation is illegal, and even for that it's terrible! Seems like he hasnt a clue, yet whatever happened, the engine didn't read it as illegal and gave him the extra 13% possession. Are illegal forms out the window now or what?

I'd certainly be dropping him from my contacts, unless you want him to keep setting up unwanted friendlies and risk injuring your players.

I do this sometimes, start with an illegal formation, then move the players around once the game starts, but it is not a tactic I recommend, as it is not really that successful.

Unbelievable

Yep he probably switched position of his players right after the match started and played a legal formation.
The weirdest thing is that although he managed to win against such a better team, most of his players received very low ratings.

that's how engine is working lately o.ò

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Originally Posted by vad

In the screenshots, you can see that the guy has won friendly match despite my big advantage in player quality. So I wonder, was it due to possession bonus, or his odd formation, or just luck?

As a little background, he apparently befriended me in order to help his friend, so this friendly match with me before the important game with his friend (much stronger than his own team) was his help. I won the important one anyways. But I wonder how he won this one, and from this angle his formation looks especially intriguing.
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Your all players are double marked except the wingers..I think he used man-on-man marking..If you can't beat him just copy his formation at least you will draw :D

The winner definitely started with the illegal formation and changed it during the game. It is really the only explanation. That and he got lucky as 3-5-2 is a solid formation. Without being there to watch the game, you really cannot ever know, unless you look at the actual players and their positions, which we cannot do with screenshots.

The fact that you really outweighed him quality-wise, just means that its a normal unlucky NGE outcome...although I usually see this happen more often for visiting teams than home teams...

I knew it! That's why my opponents with illegal formations NEVER get 20% ball possession.

Pretty sneaky

Found myself in a similar position. I managed to draw my league match against a team 7 quality less in the very last minute. All my players went in with above 90 cnd. I used 3-1-3-1-2 formation with normal tackling and hard attacking. The match drew 2-2. I was really angry as I didn't know why??? Is it possible that he used win bonus and so his performance improved? But can it increase by that much?

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Originally Posted by Saransh Vatsa

Found myself in a similar position. I managed to draw my league match against a team 7 quality less in the very last minute. All my players went in with above 90 cnd. I used 3-1-3-1-2 formation with normal tackling and hard attacking. The match drew 2-2. I was really angry as I didn't know why??? Is it possible that he used win bonus and so his performance improved? But can it increase by that much?

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i think you were penalised by getting 20% possession ..if you could use 4 defenders instead of that 3 then you could easily win..
4-1-2-1-2 narrow diamond was a better idea instead of 3-1-3-1-2...Some months ago,i faced an opponent with 3-1-3-1-2 and i used 4-1-2-1-2 and he was penalised by 20% and i won 3-0..Good Luck!

I think a bribery inquiry is coming ;)

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Originally Posted by cracicot

The winner definitely started with the illegal formation and changed it during the game. It is really the only explanation. That and he got lucky as 3-5-2 is a solid formation. Without being there to watch the game, you really cannot ever know, unless you look at the actual players and their positions, which we cannot do with screenshots.

The fact that you really outweighed him quality-wise, just means that its a normal unlucky NGE outcome...although I usually see this happen more often for visiting teams than home teams...

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If I start a match with 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly and change to 4-5-1V while the match is running, the statistics after the match say that I've used 4-5-1V, not 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly. It looks like the statistics show the last used formation in the match.

This means that this guy could have changed to an illegal formation in the last minutes of the game which would make sense. It could be that he had 47% possession before and because of the illegal formation in the last minutes of the game, the possession dropped to 43%.

That's what I experienced, but I could be wrong. I'm not exactly sure that it shows the last used formation but my brain says so. However I got proof on a game, I started with 4-1-3-2 and then changed to 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond, it shows 4-1-2-1-2 as used formation.

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Originally Posted by Confuzzled

If I start a match with 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly and change to 4-5-1V while the match is running, the statistics after the match say that I've used 4-5-1V, not 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly. It looks like the statistics show the last used formation in the match.

This means that this guy could have changed to an illegal formation in the last minutes of the game which would make sense. It could be that he had 47% possession before and because of the illegal formation in the last minutes of the game, the possession dropped to 43%.

That's what I experienced, but I could be wrong. I'm not exactly sure that it shows the last used formation but my brain says so. However I got proof on a game, I started with 4-1-3-2 and then changed to 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond, it shows 4-1-2-1-2 as used formation.

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not exactly.

The pic showing the last formation used is the one which remains after the match's end if you followed it. But opening it from "fixtures" tab will give you the starting formations, and not the final ones used at 90'.