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    Again, I don't see why. All you're doing is pressing harder when you have the ball, and avoiding more effectively counter attacks when you lose it.

    IRL, it wouldn't be confusing at all since DMs are natural at playing on the midfield section as well (they "always" have the "red arrow", so to speak). A DM in real life is just as good as a Midfielder most of the time.

    And in real life, when a team changes mentality they almost never change their formation. They can easily go on an attacking strike for 20 min, press like mad, and then resume a more normal or defensive mentality, if it was productive. So no, it just doesn't work that way in real life, that's for sure.

    Basically, I think we'll have to agree to disagree, : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebess View Post
    Again, I don't see why. All you're doing is pressing harder when you have the ball, and avoiding more effectively counter attacks when you lose it.

    IRL, it wouldn't be confusing at all since DMs are natural at playing on the midfield section as well (they "always" have the "red arrow", so to speak). A DM in real life is just as good as a Midfielder most of the time.

    And in real life, when a team changes mentality they almost never change their formation. They can easily go on an attacking strike for 20 min, press like mad, and then resume a more normal or defensive mentality, if it was productive. So no, it just doesn't work that way in real life, that's for sure.

    Basically, I think we'll have to agree to disagree, : )
    In real life, what changes basing on the mentality of the team is the zone where you are used to play and press the most. An offensive team like ie Barcelona has as main territory of play the part of the field going from half pitch to near the opponent's area. It's there that they do press, circulate the ball, and basically play the game. Now as matter of facts, how many offensive players has Barcelona out and how many defensive ones? It's actually 3-4-2-1, 3-1-5-1, or 3-6-1. If they'd actually use a 3-3 system, even with the DMs supporting the attackers they wouldn't have enough people to make the game in that zone.

    Accordingly, using an offensive mentality in T11 with a defensive formation is using that formation's power halved. Your DMC may have a red arrow, but this helps making them in the offensive just a MC MR ML. There still lack AMs to support between the lines which could usually be either AMR/AML/AMC or MR/ML on red arrows. As much as a red arrow can help, it won't ever amount to a player covering the red arrowed role + a further one ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HateMeNow View Post
    In real life, what changes basing on the mentality of the team is the zone where you are used to play and press the most. An offensive team like ie Barcelona has as main territory of play the part of the field going from half pitch to near the opponent's area. It's there that they do press, circulate the ball, and basically play the game. Now as matter of facts, how many offensive players has Barcelona out and how many defensive ones? It's actually 3-4-2-1, 3-1-5-1, or 3-6-1. If they'd actually use a 3-3 system, even with the DMs supporting the attackers they wouldn't have enough people to make the game in that zone.
    Why? Of course they'd have enough people to make the game in that zone. In a real match, do you see 6 players standing on a straight line like this ? :

    ------x

    -x-x-x-x-x-x

    ----x-x-x--

    Of course not. You have at least 3, 4 players from that midfield line playing on the DM/AM area.
    A 3-6-1, is always really some 3-2-2-2-1, or 3-1-3-2-1, or 3-3-2-1-1, etc... Those DMs/AMs have either red or blue arrows to help make the game on the midfield/AM area of the pitch.

    You'll never have 6 "real" MCs, and whenever they'll lose the ball you'll see the DMs running back to defend the lower midfield zone, that's why they are called "Defending Midfielders". That's how it works usually -- you'll never see 6, or even 5, true MCs.
    Last edited by kebess; 09-18-2013 at 12:59 AM.