Scout Players vs TL Trainers

[Mischa Cali]

Hey Guys

As I've mentioned in other Threads, I am quite new to this game (1.5 seasons).
Reading through the forum I've come to see a few players talking about Scout players they've bought
and I was wondering if they are worth what u spend on them (50T + $$$)? I rather tend to get me good
valued Trainers from the regular Transferlist.

Here some examples:



I got most of them on nightly (early morning) bids that cost my 3-4 tokens at max. So in my Opinion its worth
waiting on such good buys rather then spending 10 times the Tokens on 1 player whom is at least 4 years older.

Whats your thoughts on that?

[Saransh Vatsa]

I get such players for 1-2 tokens if I bid after the 7th day of the season. Sheer luck involved.

[Mischa Cali]

I get such players for 1-2 tokens if I bid after the 7th day of the season. Sheer luck involved.

Thanks for the answer Vatsa.

It kinda doesn't answer my question. Should i keep on looking for the (luck involved) Trainers on TL or should i save up the Tokens to upgrade the team with scouts on new season? Or is it some middleground?

[Saransh Vatsa]

Thanks for the answer Vatsa.

It kinda doesn't answer my question. Should i keep on looking for the (luck involved) Trainers on TL or should i save up the Tokens to upgrade the team with scouts on new season? Or is it some middleground?

Sorry. Went off the topic. I think that if u don't buy tokens, it is not worth it to save tokens to buy a scout. The player u bought is as gud and will soon turn into one. Also, u mostly see 26-28 yo scouts most of the time. I don't buy tokens and have not even thought of buying a scout.
Hope this has answered ur question from my opinion. :P

[Mischa Cali]

Sorry. Went off the topic. I think that if u don't buy tokens, it is not worth it to save tokens to buy a scout. The player u bought is as gud and will soon turn into one. Also, u mostly see 26-28 yo scouts most of the time. I don't buy tokens and have not even thought of buying a scout.
Hope this has answered ur question from my opinion. :P

Aye

Thanks

[July Fourth]

It's more expensive token wise to develop a fast young player to the same standard as a scout player, Sometimes you may need to add extra roles and SA to the young player (But you do get the choice which is a luxury compared to Mr. Scout)

If your adding an extra role + SA and bringing up a player to say 7* your looking at the 200T mark but once its done you start to claw back since the younger player will train faster than your scout player.

So for me, If the 4/9 22 year old (or close enough 3/8, 23 years old) scouts are available then you should buy these everytime. Then your younger players can go towards filling in the gaps.

[Mischa Cali]

It's more expensive token wise to develop a fast young player to the same standard as a scout player, Sometimes you may need to add extra roles and SA to the young player (But you do get the choice which is a luxury compared to Mr. Scout)

If your adding an extra role + SA and bringing up a player to say 7* your looking at the 200T mark but once its done you start to claw back since the younger player will train faster than your scout player.

So for me, If the 4/9 22 year old (or close enough 3/8, 23 years old) scouts are available then you should buy these everytime. Then your younger players can go towards filling in the gaps.

Well i'm still in the process of finding the right balance of Roles and SA in my Team. Basically i try to build up on a strong defense. I got 2 Defensive Wall SA and 1 Aerial Def. I have a MR/DMR with freekick spec (both feet) and ML/AML, MR/AMR with Dribble SA. 2MC on playmaker 1 Corner spec. 2 Attackers one on one and 1 Penalty spec. GK is one on one stopper. (some SA still in training)
My average age is around 21.8 which is quite young i guess.

Now thats what my brain tells me would make sense. As far as i see it with good trainers its easy to get in the first season either 1* upgrade + 1 SA or Role training. So in the 2nd season the trainer can befocused on * only or even on a 2nd Role.

So i dunno. Scouts cost me 50 Tokens and a young trainer 1-3 if I get lucky and have the cash.

I always hang around 50-60 Tokens atm and have the youth players upcoming in 3 days so i don't really know what i should do

[cracicot]

If you dont buy tokens, then its obvious what you should do: buy the scouts when you can. I stopped buying tokens more than a few seasons because I refuse to support a company that ignores the customer and screws them every chance they get.

that being said, if you do buy tokens, then why bother with the youths you get from the youth academy? The youths from the academy will never be as fast trainers as you can buy on the market and the scouts , 22/23 YO ending with 4/9, are a much more worthy buy because they always have an SA, which is worth 40/50 skill points, plus they often have more than one position, which are 50 skill points each, so on average you get a 6* 22 YO with 100 extra skill points then an the average 18 YO fast trainer....AND hes usually close to going up a * if you get a good scout.

Also, at your level, I think scouts are not worth buying anyways.

So your question is: Will it cost me less than 50T to powertrain an 18YO FAST trainer to 7*, and give him an extra position and an SA?

Like July said, PTing an 18yo to 7* will cost you a ton of green packs, which translates into tokens.

July says ~200T to get a 7* scout equivalent, if I am not mistaken. Personally I have not done that because I dont buy tokens and never plan on it, so I dont waste them on power training. But I am curious how many green packs it takes to get a 5*, 18YO, FAST FAST trainer up to 7*. Someone give me an approximation please.

[July Fourth]

If you dont buy tokens, then its obvious what you should do: buy the scouts when you can. I stopped buying tokens more than a few seasons because I refuse to support a company that ignores the customer and screws them every chance they get.

that being said, if you do buy tokens, then why bother with the youths you get from the youth academy? The youths from the academy will never be as fast trainers as you can buy on the market and the scouts , 22/23 YO ending with 4/9, are a much more worthy buy because they always have an SA, which is worth 40/50 skill points, plus they often have more than one position, which are 50 skill points each, so on average you get a 6* 22 YO with 100 extra skill points then an the average 18 YO fast trainer....AND hes usually close to going up a * if you get a good scout.

Also, at your level, I think scouts are not worth buying anyways.

So your question is: Will it cost me less than 50T to powertrain an 18YO FAST trainer to 7*, and give him an extra position and an SA?

Like July said, PTing an 18yo to 7* will cost you a ton of green packs, which translates into tokens.

July says ~200T to get a 7* scout equivalent, if I am not mistaken. Personally I have not done that because I dont buy tokens and never plan on it, so I dont waste them on power training. But I am curious how many green packs it takes to get a 5*, 18YO, FAST FAST trainer up to 7*. Someone give me an approximation please.

It's about 100T (110 greens) and thats if you don't give role+SA, But to give it more fair comparison to the best scouts that come up on the list since you need to train SA and role, It's around 200T (220 greens).

Therefore if you can get 4 optimum scouts it would work out a much better deal. All depends on token budget.

[cracicot]

It's about 100T (110 greens) and thats if you don't give role+SA, But to give it more fair comparison to the best scouts that come up on the list since you need to train SA and role, It's around 200T (220 greens).

Therefore if you can get 4 optimum scouts it would work out a much better deal. All depends on token budget.

REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY. 100-200 Green packs to bump up a 5* 18yo fast trainer. I might try it for the account with 200 greens and tanking it this season.

So the question is then this...If I do that, should I gain all the skill points and then wait until the start of next season and then assign all the skill points? Because that would be like 150-250 skill points burning a hole in my pocket so-to-speak. I believe that would be the best way to go about it. Then next season i start off with a 19yo 7*. Correct?