Young Players

[Killerbee]

It's always a difficult decision to make. Depending on what level you are, money may be a factor too. At least the market value of the youth players tend to be somewhat equal to what a bank investment would get you for the same amount of tokens. So it's often worth it to sign the player and see if you will use him or sell him afterwards. The mental aspect of releasing your youth player and having someone else sign him as a free transfer is also slightly upsetting.
18-24 tokens is a big chunk if you only have 35 tokens per season income though, so nobody can make this choice easier for you I'm afraid.

[Zangy]

It's always a difficult decision to make. Depending on what level you are, money may be a factor too. At least the market value of the youth players tend to be somewhat equal to what a bank investment would get you for the same amount of tokens. So it's often worth it to sign the player and see if you will use him or sell him afterwards.

So I'm in my 2nd season, top of my league (1st last season), top of CL Group but out the Cup.
I tend to play 4-1-2W-1-2 in all my games injuries permitting. I was looking forward to my new Youth Players and got a 4* Q20 MC 1.02M 15T and a 2* Q10 DL 280k.

The 4* only played 27mins (getting a 7 rating) but then got injured the next game after just 9mins.
So not really had a chance to see if he can play well enough in one of the 4 wide diamond points nor even see if he trains well yet.
But lets say I decide to sell him (714k-918k) and a 1.6M investment costs 25T, is selling him a viable option considering I've forked out 15T for him? My budget is 2.47M so far and only slowly going up with Wins prizes, but even with another title win would I have enough for a good enough player without selling this youngster?
I do feel like selling my 3 MCs as they'd only be played out of position, plus I need space to build my team for cover.

Funnily Q10 DL has played for 4 7s and providing decent cover at DL atm

The mental aspect of releasing your youth player and having someone else sign him as a free transfer is also slightly upsetting.

Would they actually appear on the market? and for free for that matter?

[cracicot]

So I'm in my 2nd season, top of my league (1st last season), top of CL Group but out the Cup.
I tend to play 4-1-2W-1-2 in all my games injuries permitting. I was looking forward to my new Youth Players and got a 4* Q20 MC 1.02M 15T and a 2* Q10 DL 280k.

The 4* only played 27mins (getting a 7 rating) but then got injured the next game after just 9mins.
So not really had a chance to see if he can play well enough in one of the 4 wide diamond points nor even see if he trains well yet.
But lets say I decide to sell him (714k-918k) and a 1.6M investment costs 25T, is selling him a viable option considering I've forked out 15T for him? My budget is 2.47M so far and only slowly going up with Wins prizes, but even with another title win would I have enough for a good enough player without selling this youngster?
I do feel like selling my 3 MCs as they'd only be played out of position, plus I need space to build my team for cover.

Funnily Q10 DL has played for 4 7s and providing decent cover at DL atm


Would they actually appear on the market? and for free for that matter?

First nothing is free in this game except the free youth you sign for Zero tokens and sell immediately. Which brings me to a funny story: I kept my last Zero token youth in a lower account because he was better than my worst player on the team and that is the reason why I am tanking with that account.

Still, you usually always sell the Zero token youth for the $$$. Its free $$$.

It is rare that I will spend the 15T, or 24T for that matter, on a youth player since I have tons of 5* players on my transfer list now that I have tanked a few seasons. They are only worth it if you dont have the $$$ for one of the fast training 18yo on the list, which are expensive.

If you buy tokens, then it is worth it to buy only the 24T one that comes seldomly. Otherwise just pick out the 18yo most expensive player on the transfer list and buy him for less than 24T.

It comes down to this: If you dont have the money but have spare tokens, buy the youth(if you cant find the equivalent on the market). If you have the money but not enough tokens, which is the case with me in most of my accounts, then its an immediate release. If you buy tokens, then you should only buy the youth if he is 21/24T or you cant find an equivalent on the transfer market.

I hope that helps.

what Killerbee said is personal, and frankly, its nonsense. After 11 seasons for me, I could give a **** if someone else signs my youth. Why? Because for the people who usually sign them, they are 5* for them and I get money out of it. Good for them. Good for me.
If I dont want them, they can have them since they are useless to me. End of.

[Killerbee]

So I'm in my 2nd season, top of my league (1st last season), top of CL Group but out the Cup.
I tend to play 4-1-2W-1-2 in all my games injuries permitting. I was looking forward to my new Youth Players and got a 4* Q20 MC 1.02M 15T and a 2* Q10 DL 280k.

The 4* only played 27mins (getting a 7 rating) but then got injured the next game after just 9mins.
So not really had a chance to see if he can play well enough in one of the 4 wide diamond points nor even see if he trains well yet.
But lets say I decide to sell him (714k-918k) and a 1.6M investment costs 25T, is selling him a viable option considering I've forked out 15T for him? My budget is 2.47M so far and only slowly going up with Wins prizes, but even with another title win would I have enough for a good enough player without selling this youngster?
I do feel like selling my 3 MCs as they'd only be played out of position, plus I need space to build my team for cover.

Funnily Q10 DL has played for 4 7s and providing decent cover at DL atm


Would they actually appear on the market? and for free for that matter?

I would always wait with selling till near the end of the season so you raise the market value a lot more through training/matches. In general, if you're going to just sell the player, you would want to do so early on. There's no point in using that big amount of tokens for a player you want to sell if you'll sell him the next season because the bank investment will yield much higher funds in the next season than the current.
If they appear free on the market if you don't sign, I believe so. Others have stated this before and I've seen a bunch of 18 year old (F) before that led me to believe they were unsigned youths.

what Killerbee said is personal, and frankly, its nonsense. After 11 seasons for me, I could give a **** if someone else signs my youth. Why? Because for the people who usually sign them, they are 5* for them and I get money out of it. Good for them. Good for me.
If I dont want them, they can have them since they are useless to me. End of.

No no, you misunderstand me. I'm talking about the fact that Nordeus has created a system where the youth you train is not really your own youth. It's painful that you have to pay 24 tokens for your own youth, yet if you decide that is too much and don't sign him, there will be someone else on the transfer market who can sign him for (possibly) 1 token.
In the situation that you don't sign the player, you gain no funds or benefit for him at all even though your training facility used up all that 'time' to produce him. That's what I mean with my annoyment that someone else can get the player that I trained and brought from my youth for a low cost, and I have to pay out of my ears to sign him.

[Saransh Vatsa]

No no, you misunderstand me. I'm talking about the fact that Nordeus has created a system where the youth you train is not really your own youth. It's painful that you have to pay 24 tokens for your own youth, yet if you decide that is too much and don't sign him, there will be someone else on the transfer market who can sign him for (possibly) 1 token.
In the situation that you don't sign the player, you gain no funds or benefit for him at all even though your training facility used up all that 'time' to produce him. That's what I mean with my annoyment that someone else can get the player that I trained and brought from my youth for a low cost, and I have to pay out of my ears to sign him.

I get your point now. Bet even Cracicot will get it. It is frustrating the even after spending all the money and time on Youth Facility, u can't take advantage of or players. They should be free but who can make Nordeus understand that. But, on the brighter side, even we sign the youths of someone else's facility. So it gets evened out!!!!
Cheers.

[cracicot]

I would always wait with selling till near the end of the season so you raise the market value a lot more through training/matches. In general, if you're going to just sell the player, you would want to do so early on. There's no point in using that big amount of tokens for a player you want to sell if you'll sell him the next season because the bank investment will yield much higher funds in the next season than the current.
If they appear free on the market if you don't sign, I believe so. Others have stated this before and I've seen a bunch of 18 year old (F) before that led me to believe they were unsigned youths.




No no, you misunderstand me. I'm talking about the fact that Nordeus has created a system where the youth you train is not really your own youth. It's painful that you have to pay 24 tokens for your own youth, yet if you decide that is too much and don't sign him, there will be someone else on the transfer market who can sign him for (possibly) 1 token.
In the situation that you don't sign the player, you gain no funds or benefit for him at all even though your training facility used up all that 'time' to produce him. That's what I mean with my annoyment that someone else can get the player that I trained and brought from my youth for a low cost, and I have to pay out of my ears to sign him.

I get your point now, yes, we should not have to pay to sign our own youth players at all. They should both be ZERO tokens, and when you release the expensive one, he goes on the transfer list and someone, in theory, can pick him up for one token when you had to pay 24T for him. yes I get that and agree with you.

At the end of the day, nordeus does this to make you waste your tokens. Everything in this game is built to do that. But some of them are fair and some are unfair. This is one of those unfair ones. Paying a token to change a name is also useless and unfair. Changing the time of a game so its not 15 mins after your first one is also unfair that it costs 2 tokens.

Remember this game is here to make money, not to make sense. If nordeus had people who knew more about business and gaming, they could change this for the better, but frankly, it looks like a lost cause. They are sucking the enjoyment out of the game at the cost of their greed. plain and simple.

[Zangy]

First nothing is free in this game except the free youth you sign for Zero tokens and sell immediately. Which brings me to a funny story: I kept my last Zero token youth in a lower account because he was better than my worst player on the team and that is the reason why I am tanking with that account.

Still, you usually always sell the Zero token youth for the $$$. Its free $$$.

What I meant is if they'd appear has (F) free on auction but Killerbee swears by it.
You're right, they need to come up with this way to make us use our tokens, just 24T is an awful lot. At most they should be a few T's so that we'd prefer to take this top player than be forced into a bidding war.

And true, if they are not good enough then let some have them... the $$$ you get from the free youth more than pays for the investment in building the academy (well at my 1st 2 upgrades at least)

It is rare that I will spend the 15T, or 24T for that matter, on a youth player since I have tons of 5* players on my transfer list now that I have tanked a few seasons. They are only worth it if you dont have the $$$ for one of the fast training 18yo on the list, which are expensive.

If you buy tokens, then it is worth it to buy only the 24T one that comes seldomly. Otherwise just pick out the 18yo most expensive player on the transfer list and buy him for less than 24T.

It comes down to this: If you dont have the money but have spare tokens, buy the youth(if you cant find the equivalent on the market). If you have the money but not enough tokens, which is the case with me in most of my accounts, then its an immediate release. If you buy tokens, then you should only buy the youth if he is 21/24T or you cant find an equivalent on the transfer market.

Thanks, I'll remember that. And take this 15T spent as a 1st season lesson, and hopefully he plays ok in any 4 positions i play him in when needed
btw, if you're rarely using your Ts to buy your Youth player, are you solely using them for auctions?
Also, is spending 2T so you can watch a game worth it to improve your chances of winning the match?

[Saransh Vatsa]

Also, is spending 2T so you can watch a game worth it to improve your chances of winning the match?

Sorry the question was for Cracicot but I will like to state my opinion here as it is the same as that of Cracicot.
The answer is NO!!! Iats not much difference. Just play it. If u buy tokens, it may be fine. But if u play with 35 T budget, don't waste ur tokens there.
Thanks and sorry again for the out of turn answer.

[Zangy]

Sorry the question was for Cracicot but I will like to state my opinion here as it is the same as that of Cracicot.
The answer is NO!!! Iats not much difference. Just play it. If u buy tokens, it may be fine. But if u play with 35 T budget, don't waste ur tokens there.
Thanks and sorry again for the out of turn answer.

No need to apologise, I value everyone's opinions

Possession does not guarantee a win, nor does watching the game. Dont spend the 2T unless you feel like losing 2T

Cool, thanks

[cracicot]

What I meant is if they'd appear has (F) free on auction but Killerbee swears by it.
You're right, they need to come up with this way to make us use our tokens, just 24T is an awful lot. At most they should be a few T's so that we'd prefer to take this top player than be forced into a bidding war.

And true, if they are not good enough then let some have them... the $$$ you get from the free youth more than pays for the investment in building the academy (well at my 1st 2 upgrades at least)


Thanks, I'll remember that. And take this 15T spent as a 1st season lesson, and hopefully he plays ok in any 4 positions i play him in when needed
btw, if you're rarely using your Ts to buy your Youth player, are you solely using them for auctions?
Also, is spending 2T so you can watch a game worth it to improve your chances of winning the match?

Possession does not guarantee a win, nor does watching the game. Dont spend the 2T unless you feel like losing 2T