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    Quote Originally Posted by tongly45 View Post
    i have no desire to do this kind of manipulation.
    Then why promote it to others? It's something looked down upon. Many people win their cups fair and square without any form of manipulation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dv8r View Post
    Then why promote it to others? It's something looked down upon. Many people win their cups fair and square without any form of manipulation.
    i thinks all people know it now, if you see someone hasn't archive the cup for something like 10 seasons and want to has one before they retired. he should know it. i had never do manipulation and i won it twice.
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