Game engine

[mik21]

ridiculous to compare actual game with this game, in real game strong teams can lose for many reasons, but here i don't see any reason why a strong team should lose the weak. Everyone plays only for victory. the weak should win itself and not with the help of others. it will reflect negatively on the active players in the game will become more and more inactive players. here everyone plays for personal enjoyment. no fun no players. and should not be confused with real game virtual.

[Saransh Vatsa]

I played the weakest team in league today and scraped for a 2-1 win. Then 45 min later, I won against a stronger team in CL 4-1!!!! This proves how impractical this game is

[SlickZ]

I played the weakest team in league today and scraped for a 2-1 win. Then 45 min later, I won against a stronger team in CL 4-1!!!! This proves how impractical this game is

Didn't Manchester United thrash Bayer Leverkusen 0-5? Probably one of the top 4 teams in Germany, behind only Borrusia Dortmund and Bayern Munich. Then draw with Spurs, lose to Everton 0-1 then get beat by Newcastle 0-1, then beat Shakhtar Donetsk.

Sure Everton are a solid top 6 team in England, as are Spurs ( Not on current form but o well ) But last seasons Champions league was an all german final, which would lead to believe that perhaps the better german clubs, are the best in the world. So if Man U can beat the 3rd best team in Germany, which based on evidence last season is home to the top 2 clubs in the world. Then surely they should beat Newcastle / Everton and Spurs.

Regardless of the manager change that occurred at Man U. The fact is upsets happen, one team just doesn't show up the other does. Arsenal get hammered by Villa. Then go on to top the BPL. Upsets happen, if you managed to go 26-0-0 or heck even any season unbeaten you should be proud. You can put yourselves in same royalty as the Arsenal Invincible's.


And about possession Crystal Palace 27% Everton 73% 9 shots vs 15 shots. While I support Everton, I firmly believe Palace deserved to win that game. Yet it was 0-0. Possession doesn't matter, its what you do with it that matters.

[Saransh Vatsa]

Didn't Manchester United thrash Bayer Leverkusen 0-5? Probably one of the top 4 teams in Germany, behind only Borrusia Dortmund and Bayern Munich. Then draw with Spurs, lose to Everton 0-1 then get beat by Newcastle 0-1, then beat Shakhtar Donetsk.

Sure Everton are a solid top 6 team in England, as are Spurs ( Not on current form but o well ) But last seasons Champions league was an all german final, which would lead to believe that perhaps the better german clubs, are the best in the world. So if Man U can beat the 3rd best team in Germany, which based on evidence last season is home to the top 2 clubs in the world. Then surely they should beat Newcastle / Everton and Spurs.

Regardless of the manager change that occurred at Man U. The fact is upsets happen, one team just doesn't show up the other does. Arsenal get hammered by Villa. Then go on to top the BPL. Upsets happen, if you managed to go 26-0-0 or heck even any season unbeaten you should be proud. You can put yourselves in same royalty as the Arsenal Invincible's.


And about possession Crystal Palace 27% Everton 73% 9 shots vs 15 shots. While I support Everton, I firmly believe Palace deserved to win that game. Yet it was 0-0. Possession doesn't matter, its what you do with it that matters.

For the ManU point, it did happen. But once this season. For what happened to me, happens to everyone every 2nd day. I am not complaining about losing to weaker teams, her, but the way people lose and the number of times they lose is unbelievably impractical. And please since u answered this cvonvincingly, can u please answer that part of the question which I asked Rayco, did any team losing have 70% possession?????
And all the points people have this season to support the weaker teams winning is related to ManU. How many other teams are getting trolled??? And how many outside EPL????

[4am]

And please since u answered this cvonvincingly, can u please answer that part of the question which I asked Rayco, did any team losing have 70% possession?????

Tottenham, for the first hour of their 2-1 defeat at home to West Ham United in the Capital One Cup last night enjoyed an average of 73 per cent possession. Final stat was something like 63-37 in their favour.

[SlickZ]

For the ManU point, it did happen. But once this season. For what happened to me, happens to everyone every 2nd day. I am not complaining about losing to weaker teams, her, but the way people lose and the number of times they lose is unbelievably impractical. And please since u answered this cvonvincingly, can u please answer that part of the question which I asked Rayco, did any team losing have 70% possession?????
And all the points people have this season to support the weaker teams winning is related to ManU. How many other teams are getting trolled??? And how many outside EPL????

I gave you an example of Crystal Palace vs Everton 27% vs 73%. So yes troll results do happen when you get superior possession. And look at the German league atm. Dortmund loosing to much weaker opponents.

To be honest just because Bayern and Dortmund made the champions league final doesn't mean the rest of german football teams are the best in the world. It's like take Barcelona and Real Madrid out of spanish football and what do you left? Even take Rangers and Celtic out of Scottish football and Scottish football would be like the welsh or irish leagues.

Thats what makes the EPL and to a lesser extent serie A such competitive leagues, no club has totally out grown the league.

Bayern, Dortmund, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Rangers and Celtic have all carried the league they are in and if they left their leagues would be a shadow of what they are.

In reply, saying that is not very accurate. Bayer Leverkusen are 3rd in the Bundesliga and a lot of people would agree they are a good solid team. Athletic Madrid? Your logic hints they are redundant, when in fact they are probably on par with the best teams in the world at the moment.

The Premier League isn't the most competitive, its just the best teams in the league are more inconsistent than their counterparts in other leagues. Please do not mix that up. If Chelsea were as consistent as Barca / Bayern / Roma / Juve / Real. I can assure you they would win the title every single season if people Like Man U / City / Arsenal were as inconsistent as they are now.

The Premier League is a prime example of Top Eleven logic. You can have the best team in your league, but inconsistency will cost you.

[TypTex]

I gave you an example of Crystal Palace vs Everton 27% vs 73%. So yes troll results do happen when you get superior possession.

There was nothing "troll" about that result. Everton simply didn't have enough up top to break down a very well organised Palace defense. Lukaku had an off day, Baines set pieces weren't up to much, and other players couldn't put their chances away, our goalkeeper played a big part in that too. Palace very nearly won it on the counter, although we couldn't score either at that point in the season.

Yes we played like an away team and were happy to concede a lot of the midfield possession, after all we are a much weaker team than Everton, but the tactic almost worked and we had a chance or two to win it. End of the match we celebrated like we won the match, not cause we didn't want to win it, but cause we'd seen our team put in a fantastic battling competitive performance that was worthy of the premiership, and after the few weeks we'd been through we deserved to celebrate that.


The 4 games after the Everton game, Palace only conceded 1 goal, pretty much proving that Everton not scoring against us was not a "Troll / freak" result. But all down to us becoming more used to life in the premiership and being more well organised and competitive in the league. We are still very much favourites to go back down. But we will fight and be competitive til the end of the season. It will not just be Everton that fail to take 3 points away from Selhurst Park this season.

[Sully]

I prefer the word 'upset' like in real football. The game's engine is programmed to purposely give these results now and again. Otherwise if the stronger team won all the time it would be unrealistic and off putting to weaker teams.

But these so called 'upsets' seem to happen all the time in T11 and are off putting to stronger teams.

[4am]

But these so called 'upsets' seem to happen all the time in T11.

They really don't. It's just games like this are highlighted whilst the vast majority proceed as expected.

Whether or not they should be possible in T11 is another matter entirely. I have sympathy for those in the 'no' camp.

[festinator]

People say it happens all the time, but be honest now. How often do you get trolled in a season. In a 26 game league most people only get trolled 3-5 times if even. I dont think thats too unreasonable.