The ideal holiday present from Nordeus....

ANSWERS!!!!

MDKII you seem best placed to answer questions that have been continually asked on this forum but never answered. So before you go on holiday for two weeks and to get the new year off to a good start why don't you explain a few things about T11 that we all NEED to know.

Ill start of with a few questions and others can add to it if they want....

Formations.....do they actually mean anything in this game? I think it was Cracicot and itayfranko seemed to prove that they have no bearing on the outcome of a match.

Player match ratings....Are players just giving random numbers? How can I lose a game 3-0 and my GK gets an 8 but when I won 4-0 he gets a 5? He made 2 saves in each game and this is a common occurrence in nearly every game and has involved players in every postion like my ST scoring 2 goals and getting a 5 or my MC scoring 1 and assisting 1 and getting a 5, but when they do nothing, not even get a mention in match commentry, they get an 8.

Keep your upto 35% discount on tokens and your one present everyday and give us what we really want....ANSWERS!!!!!

For God's sake I want to know what the arrows mean!!!!!!!!! That is if they mean anything at all:p

arrows were already answered in ask the devs.

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Originally Posted by rastaman70

arrows were already answered in ask the devs.

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really????? I missed it surely, can u give me the link?? Or can u tell me what was the answer???

you dont read much do you. I answered Cat in some other thread.

red = plays position ahead during attacks
blue = plays position behind during defense.

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Originally Posted by rastaman70

you dont read much do you. I answered Cat in some other thread.

red = plays position ahead during attacks
blue = plays position behind during defense.

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Well that is what i had though... I never came across this. If it was anywhere i was reading, i would have read this thing surely.:)

I think
Red is attack during defense
Blue means defend during attack

Why use red when you are attacking or blue when defending? Does red then mean attack while attacking??? Or defend while defending???

I play in normal mode and always have my two central dc in blue.... No more nose bleds for them by going high up, no more goals for them, less goals being conceded. Seems to work for me......now I only play 3 central at the back with dmc, even with ml, mr aml, amr by opposition.

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Originally Posted by DiZZee

I think
Red is attack during defense
Blue means defend during attack

Why use red when you are attacking or blue when defending? Does red then mean attack while attacking??? Or defend while defending???

I play in normal mode and always have my two central dc in blue.... No more nose bleds for them by going high up, no more goals for them, less goals being conceded. Seems to work for me......now I only play 3 central at the back with dmc, even with ml, mr aml, amr by opposition.

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I apologize. I mistakenly assumed my info was from the ask the devs but it was from the forum tutorial by someone.

because of that, forget what I said, because I cannot confirm it came from nordeus.

but here we go from ask the devs, I quote: "Can we have wing positions, would be ahead of AMR and AML to each side of the strikers?

There are multiple ways to define roles in football, and the current one is the one we chose. AMR and AML with arrows set to forward would be the wing positions you are asking for."

all I can say about the arrows is that I now have less understanding of them than I did before. if putting red arrows on an AML makes him play like a ST, thats fine, I get that. I am going to assume it means all the time and not just on attack or defense. Some clarification from MDKII would be nice, but I dont expect anything close to a clarification on anything anymore when you factor in that it is in its 3rd year and still nothing concrete.

so putting blue arrows on an ML makes him a DML. great if you dont have a DML on your list and if that is the case, I have too many players covering positions that all I need is arrows????? just get a 4-4-2 formation (10 players) and all you need is 7 subs to cover all outfield positions should injuries and suspensions happen. That would free up the 5 spots for me to sign players without issues and make life easier.

the big question I have is this: why is this info not posted on the main website?

Followup question: Why is there no formal instruction booklet/pdf/webpage for this game that explains every option in this game?

I can only comment on the ml/ mr position.
A blue does not make him play as a dml / dmr, but a rather as a defensive ml/mr, if this makes sense. He still does go forward and he does get to score, when it suits the MoFo.
When in red, the possession seems to go up a bit, but they still seem to steamroll my midfield, dmc and dcs, with those, oh too often,periodic bursts of counters. Thankfully the GK knows where the posts are.

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Originally Posted by rastaman70

There are multiple ways to define roles in football, and the current one is the one we chose. AMR and AML with arrows set to forward would be the wing positions you are asking for.[/B]"

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By that rationale, putting blue arrows on defenders makes them goalkeepers...

A few general improvements I'd like to see:

1. The ability to see players' ratings during the game.
2. Meaningful goalkeeper statistics.
3. Not being ripped off by token companies.
4. Nordeus to hire someone as customer liason officer to review poor relationship with players.
5. Get rid of pointless 'Negotiations' (in transfers).
6. Introduce penalties for irregular, silly formations.
7. No penalty to the user for employing legibile formations T11 cannot comprehend (False Nine, 4-6-0 etc).
8. An limit placed on the number of friends allowed to support another during a match.
9. A PROPER, concise user guide.
10. The ability to see morale and condition (in Selection View) as percentages in the desktop app too.
11. Penalties for players employing goalkeepers to take free kicks and corners.
12. Friendlies should only be added to the fixture list when BOTH players have agreed to play.
13. More opponents for those players at the highest levels (combine servers).

I'll think of some more later.

Best Christmas Present?

THE RETURN OF CRACICOT

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Originally Posted by July Fourth

Best Christmas Present?

THE RETURN OF CRACICOT

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What she said.
Wait, who is Cracicot?

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Originally Posted by July Fourth

Best Christmas Present?

THE RETURN OF CRACICOT

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Hahaha....If only!!!!!

More chance of getting answers to our questions from Nordeus than cracicot being allowed back!!!!!

Im sure Nordeus have private detectives on the go to make sure he doesn't come back as something else!!!!

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Originally Posted by Jll02

What she said.
Wait, who is Cracicot?

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View Profile: cracicot - Top Eleven Forum

If there is ever a Legend on this forum, It's him and NOT me.

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Originally Posted by July Fourth

View Profile: cracicot - Top Eleven Forum

If there is ever a Legend on this forum, It's him and NOT me.

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Intresting guy.

hmm, arrows do make more sense now, but setting a S/CB on a blue doesnt make them a keeper, it turns them into a CF
anyone want to duke with my conclusion?

but yeah, awesome thread, probably wont get any answers whatsoever

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Originally Posted by littledude072

hmm, arrows do make more sense now, but setting a S/CB on a blue doesnt make them a keeper, it turns them into a CF
anyone want to duke with my conclusion?

but yeah, awesome thread, probably wont get any answers whatsoever

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i dont think there is a wraparound to make a CB a CF. I think there are boundries, which would be normal in any game. personally i thing that if you already have 5 def, then blue arrows on dml.dmc/dmr dont apply. think on that

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Originally Posted by Jll02

Intresting guy.

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:rolleyes: He sure was!!!:D
And as BigB said, there must be detectives around here to insure he is not back, for if there is anyone who can take Nordeus' case the best and to the point that even Nordeus feels ashamed(they never usually do) it is Cracicot!!!!!!! I though u knew him.....:rolleyes: (as he has always been mentioned on this forum)

I did hear of him but actually never knew what he did.
How long is he banned for?

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Originally Posted by Jll02

I did hear of him but actually never knew what he did.
How long is he banned for?

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From here to eternity....:(
I remember the day he was banned, i went offline at afternoon and returned at night to see he is banned. I made a thread( poll) regarding whether it was right to ban him or not, and 95% of the 20+ voters said it was wrong. But it was against forum rules so the thread was locked.
AND PLEASE DON'T CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THIS HERE. WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO DISCUSS MODERATING DECISIONS ON THE FORUMS!!!!:)

awesome, i catched a fish
try setting your back line as blue, youll see a few of them rush during a counter AND be passed to during an attacking move instead of your striker
give me some results afterwards

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Originally Posted by littledude072

awesome, i catched a fish
try setting your back line as blue, youll see a few of them rush during a counter AND be passed to during an attacking move instead of your striker
give me some results afterwards

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Ive done this a few times because I found my CB were leading a counter attack or were on the wing making crosses all the time when I wanted them to stay back but it made no difference.

A detailed explanation would be good but once Nordeus are being extremely ignorant and not even acknowledging our questions.

thanks for agreeing with me. it may sound very sketchy, but many people can confirm it

now heres the kicker
if i set them on neutral (no arrows) or red they DONT rush upfield/take part in attacking plays, they stay back where they should. i only have 2 guesses; they accidentally flipped red and blue OR as others have stated, moved their positions forward/back, but never sideways if you set arrows. also, try setting you CFs with reds and youll see more of your mids doing the attacking moves too, thats just my experience, they do score goals and stuff, but they pop up less in the commentary box. itd be awesome if i can set my keeper to blue so i can see my wee wittle wookie chestnut wush up and score the winner

When i started playing, i used to use a lot of arrows. All my defenders used to have blue arrows. But now i don't use any, maximum 3 at a time. And usually it mis on my AMC, wingers or DMC.
And i have seen a notiicable shange. Before, when my defenders used to be on blue arrows, they used to get the ball during Counter Attacks more than 5-% times. And they used to score as many goals as my STs!!!!!! But since i started keeping them without arrows, they rarely get the long ball in Counter Attacks. So far this season, i have played a total of 30 matches across all competitions, and only ONCE has my defender got the ball during counter attacks. That was Arrieta who assisted another DC Harrera to score. Leaving that, 90% of the balls in Counter Attacks go to either of my 2 STs, Jokic or Crofts and sometimes even to my AMCs and MCs.
And sometimes i place my DMC on Blue arrow if my opponent has a strong AMc or is playing 3 STs.... And of all times he has been on blue arrow( for about 7-8 matches), he has thrice recieved the ball during Counter Attacks..... And when i have put him on red arrow( for some 14-15 matches), he has never got the ball during counters, though he has twice scored "From a Distance"!!!!:confused:

U decide.........

Now u make the judgement.

There is one thing i have surely noticed. When i am losing, sometimes i put all my players on red arrows. Then i see that the possession bar goes more in favour of my opponent i.e my opponent gets more possession. So what does this mean? This kinda shows that the red arrows are attacking as only when a team attacks alot does its possession decrease....
Wierd... It is hard to tell what they actually do

why wont nordeus explain these things? there are tons of threads asking what does what and we never get an answer.

does MDKII read these things and laugh his ass off because we look like fools trying to play a game with no instructions?

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Originally Posted by rastaman70

why wont nordeus explain these things? there are tons of threads asking what does what and we never get an answer.

does MDKII read these things and laugh his ass off because we look like fools trying to play a game with no instructions?

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The only conclusion I can come to is that he doesn't know the answers.

It's the same questions/complaints that have been talked about in here over and over again and I don't believe anyone can be this ignorant to there customers.

He either doesn't know the answers or Nordeus know we won't like the answer because very little we do affects match results.

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Originally Posted by BigB79

The only conclusion I can come to is that he doesn't know the answers.

It's the same questions/complaints that have been talked about in here over and over again and I don't believe anyone can be this ignorant to there customers.

He either doesn't know the answers or Nordeus know we won't like the answer because very little we do affects match results.

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i share this view.

but then the next question is this: why doesnt he find out the info and post it here, OR have nordeus put the info on the website. can he nnot assist in having nordeus release the info?

in 3 years, why has this game info not been released?>

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Originally Posted by rastaman70

i share this view.

but then the next question is this: why doesnt he find out the info and post it here, OR have nordeus put the info on the website. can he nnot assist in having nordeus release the info?

in 3 years, why has this game info not been released?>

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One of two reasons.....either they paid someone to write the program for the game then thought they could 'run' the game themselves only to find out they don't know the full ins and outs of the game and it's beyond their capabilities to make the required changes.

OR....the game is so badly programmed that nothing we actually do as managers, tactics, formations, arrows or the match stats and player ratings, makes any difference to match results and Nordeus don't want to admit to this.

yep, no changelogs other than the occasional 'added new language'. even mini mods have legit changelogs. i cant navigate the nordeus board because it looks and feels weird
im on the fence with either; they havent updated anything, or they did and dont want to tell us. im personally leaning towards the no update thing though. the 'dont want to tell us' part kind of looks promising too. i honestly havent tasted anything different and stuff. thats just my opinion

on the bright side
i did get a morale pack from the christmas present thing, i might as well use it on myself :D

UPDATE

both of bigs points make sense though. i remembered in college i paid a friend to make me my project, when i presented it in front of the class i couldnt do lickity squat. he overkilled my project and made it too smexy. i had no right to complain since i did get an A on it ;P
their annual hackathon contest might be an interview thing to hire new employees. im just speculating because we dont know what happens to the winners, for all we know they could be chopped up to feed their pets

the 2nd part sort of stems from the 1st. they probably mislinked lots of things, leading to very undesirable results, like the arrows. most scripts are like pluginplays, search up the basic coding language, find a list of all the basic functions, add some salt and seasoning, then boom youve made a baby

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Originally Posted by littledude072

yep, no changelogs other than the occasional 'added new language'. even mini mods have legit changelogs. i cant navigate the nordeus board because it looks and feels weird
im on the fence with either; they havent updated anything, or they did and dont want to tell us. im personally leaning towards the no update thing though. the 'dont want to tell us' part kind of looks promising too. i honestly havent tasted anything different and stuff. thats just my opinion

on the bright side
i did get a morale pack from the christmas present thing, i might as well use it on myself :D

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I don't think they actually update much if anything all they update are some tiny visual things that they only do to make it look like they are doing something.

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Originally Posted by BigB79

One of two reasons.....either they paid someone to write the program for the game then thought they could 'run' the game themselves only to find out they don't know the full ins and outs of the game and it's beyond their capabilities to make the required changes.

OR....the game is so badly programmed that nothing we actually do as managers, tactics, formations, arrows or the match stats and player ratings, makes any difference to match results and Nordeus don't want to admit to this.

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I do agree fully here and i will go with the latter, the formations and arrows etc make no differeence.
Although i have said from time to time than most probabaly those devs that programmed the game are no longer emplaoyed and all Nordeus have today are amateurs who can only increase the space among tabs in the UI!!!!!!!!!!
It has been shown a million times that formations and orders make no difference to the allegedly "pre planned" match results. All that make a difference is the willingness of the NGE to make u shell out some money on the game.

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