Are results pre-determined before a ball is kicked?

[marc31]

Sadly to say, but yesterday saw something strange and come to conclusion that results are pre-determined.
I watched one match of my friend, and shortly after the HT, when score was 0-5, I went to his profile to see how was in the League. I was suprised to see that the ranking was updated with the match in progress. I went back to Live, curious to see if it remain the same score, but no, till the end, my friend scored another 2 goals. After all round over, the rank was unchanged from the ~57th minute of live match.

[July Fourth]

I think the only way to prove that the games are NOT pre-determined is by getting a substitute player that substitutes an injured player and scores a goal or makes an assist, reason being would be the match engine would not be able to determine that would happen before kick-off because its a result of your manager interaction during mid-game.

Kevin Mensah injured in a match and I put Savage on in play and he scored, so that theory goes out the window.

[Stafford]

Kevin Mensah injured in a match and I put Savage on in play and he scored, so that theory goes out the window.

Savage

[July Fourth]

No not that Savage, This Savage here...

[marc31]

But guys .. does it really matter? All in all, even if the games were predetermined, what would it change? It's 3 minutes of our life, or 7.5e-8% of our lives. We'd still have to watch the match, for one reason or another.

Not really matter, but no more panic to change tactics/players live, as the result was determined before start. Now is more important to give importance to tactics/quality when prepare the game... Once that came the 2 minutes before game it is nothing more to do, than open the beer and "watch" the game, and maybe make 1 sub to receive the blue pack.

Kevin Mensah injured in a match and I put Savage on in play and he scored, so that theory goes out the window.

In this pic Savage scored, but not he replaced Adams and not injuried Mensah? :P

[July Fourth]

Not really matter, but no more panic to change tactics/players live, as the result was determined before start. Now is more important to give importance to tactics/quality when prepare the game... Once that came the 2 minutes before game it is nothing more to do, than open the beer and "watch" the game, and maybe make 1 sub to receive the blue pack.


In this pic Savage scored, but not he replaced Adams and not injuried Mensah? :P

Hmmm... I find that very strange because when I was playing I swapped Mensah straight for Savage and then Vasko for Adams.

[Benlee4u]

A couple of days ago, my player came in on auto sub for injured player and got a goal.

While my view is that sometimes games are pre determined no matter your effort I.e making sub, changing mentality et al. There are too many variables in this game that turns logic on its head. These are well documented. I have got caught out. Few times in almost 4 seasons , sure I get angry and bit my lips but never complain about the engine...this is just a game. Somethings are just not logical especially a few of the commentary sequence, that said I know that 90% of the time the best team will always win and these my friends is the fair reflection of the game.

Most times you win with a better team and a few times you loose. Lets enjoy the imperfection of the game...otherwise I becomes to predictable and loose the appeal

[July Fourth]

A couple of days ago, my player came in on auto sub for injured player and got a goal.

While my view is that sometimes games are pre determined no matter your effort I.e making sub, changing mentality et al. There are too many variables in this game that turns logic on its head. These are well documented. I have got caught out. Few times in almost 4 seasons , sure I get angry and bit my lips but never complain about the engine...this is just a game. Somethings are just not logical especially a few of the commentary sequence, that said I know that 90% of the time the best team will always win and these my friends is the fair reflection of the game.

Most times you win with a better team and a few times you loose. Lets enjoy the imperfection of the game...otherwise I becomes to predictable and loose the appeal

The unpredictable game engine of Top Eleven is what makes Top Eleven what it is, Even if results are pre-determined or not, then the game engine and what is happening in games certainly keeps us all playing, If we all knew our next game was going to be a win, draw or loss, then we wouldn't be playing this game.

as for the auto-sub coming in and scoring, that doesn't coun't for pre-determination because the game engine knows that you have got auto-subs enabled.

[Accyrover]

Could be but in all honesty I think not.
IMO it take so long because the game engine runs at approx 1/12 of a 90 minute real time game, average sub for an injury probably takes around 30 seconds to get ready + additional time for the game to stop as we don't have extra time this is discounted. 1/12 of 6 minutes is .......

[Stafford]

But guys .. does it really matter? All in all, even if the games were predetermined, what would it change? It's 3 minutes of our life, or 7.5e-8% of our lives. We'd still have to watch the match, for one reason or another.