Rant: This game has gone from being great to being fuxed beyond belief!

I think its time to retire from this game.

I'm level 5 and have spent quite a lot of time playing it - mining tokens, rest, treatment, morale boosters and power train...but the last two season I've seen a lot of dodgy results, and they take the pee.

All season I've been losing to inferior teams at home and even to teams playing illegal formation wtf is that about? Today was the last straw CL 1/4 final the team is inferior average rating (45 vs 38) and also in every position. He beats me at home 2-1 after 1-1 in first leg. What bugs is the trend I've seen in that the game engine is rewarding teams unjustly I was watching my CL 1/4 match all way through my team was constantly in the opponents half yet his shot count keeps going up and there's no commentary to reflect this? I was attacking and all of a sudden its "Goal for opponent FC!!" wtf is that about?

Any way rant over and good bye T11 - was once great but there are serious issues that needs to be address!

Rant over LOL. D'day peeps :)

If you read most of the other threads you'll see that almost every other player came to the same conclusion between level 4 and 7. Al the time and effort you put into 'tweaking' your team may not really make much of a difference unless you spend a lot of cash on tokens and buying scouts every season.
I 'tank' every second season now, for fun, and mainly so at least I have some control over the result!!! :D

I have seen people spend money and not get the results, I have sent several messages to the dev team, they are trying to work on such problems, not sure how successful they will be.

My players are far greater than the opposition, plus a 5% possession benefit, yet I only get 52% possession and draw 1-1.

Have you noticed having an 80% possession, yet the opposition have more shots.

I played 1 game had more possession, more shots, against an inferior team and got thrashed 1-4.

Their comment was surprises results happen, BUT the opposition need to have the ball to have a surprise happen.

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Originally Posted by gogs67

If you read most of the other threads you'll see that almost every other player came to the same conclusion between level 4 and 7. Al the time and effort you put into 'tweaking' your team may not really make much of a difference unless you spend a lot of cash on tokens and buying scouts every season.
I 'tank' every second season now, for fun, and mainly so at least I have some control over the result!!! :D

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not even levels 4-7, this happens at EVERY level. there is a disconnect between the makers of the game and the actual game.
keep in mind, this game is designed to suck the tokens out of you and cheat your hard earned money. if you think that there is anything fair about this game then you are demented. well, the only thing fair about this game is that it sucks the tokens from everyone.

I totally disagree.

I have never bought a token. I get about 4 tokens a day extra, in about 2 minutes on iOS
I befriend active managers at the end of each season, on a similar level and we compete against each other.
I have seen buyers abandon their teams in active leagues because maybe their expectations are too high.

I am on level 7 only and only starting to see the beauty of this game.
I expect to lose every match. That is my only disappointed, so far.

I hope you reconsider.

Yeah there are issues with the game but I have also done pretty good without buying any token...And I live in INDIA so there are also no video's or surveys available so that I can farm tokens...I am level 6...4 time league winner, 2 time champion league winner...

One thing I agree is that they have to tell us how the game functions in a bit more detail...What arrow does, what effect does special ability have, how does difference in attack and defense effects the performance of players...where is the rent thread...where is ask the developer section...

NORDEUS has to open up a little with us because its we because of whom they are earning money...If we all stop playing NORDEUS will be left to just bite up the dust...

you play all with midfield based Formations?

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Originally Posted by rastaman70

not even levels 4-7, this happens at EVERY level. there is a disconnect between the makers of the game and the actual game.
keep in mind, this game is designed to suck the tokens out of you and cheat your hard earned money. if you think that there is anything fair about this game then you are demented. well, the only thing fair about this game is that it sucks the tokens from everyone.

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I'm just saying it's usually around these levels that people start to see the game for what it is, rather than thinking it's on par with Football Manager 2014 or whatever! :D
I really thought everything I was doing had an effect when I was playing it at the lower levels!!!!!

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Originally Posted by pitanorf

I think its time to retire from this game.

I'm level 5 and have spent quite a lot of time playing it - mining tokens, rest, treatment, morale boosters and power train...but the last two season I've seen a lot of dodgy results, and they take the pee.

All season I've been losing to inferior teams at home and even to teams playing illegal formation wtf is that about? Today was the last straw CL 1/4 final the team is inferior average rating (45 vs 38) and also in every position. He beats me at home 2-1 after 1-1 in first leg. What bugs is the trend I've seen in that the game engine is rewarding teams unjustly I was watching my CL 1/4 match all way through my team was constantly in the opponents half yet his shot count keeps going up and there's no commentary to reflect this? I was attacking and all of a sudden its "Goal for opponent FC!!" wtf is that about?

Any way rant over and good bye T11 - was once great but there are serious issues that needs to be address!

Rant over LOL. D'day peeps :)

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Congrats to ur opponent! He fetched a win vs a stronger opponent������ You maybe should have gone defensive and counter attack upon seein his team attack a lot..

@rastaman: why r u still playing this game if u think so little of it???????? Seems very weird to me that I always see u here whining... No credibility.

Me i don't buy or farm tokens or packs, and I win :) and when I lose, I don't come here to whine and blame the "axis of evil" or terrorists..... Good day

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Originally Posted by Siddharth Shanker Singh

Yeah there are issues with the game but I have also done pretty good without buying any token...And I live in INDIA so there are also no video's or surveys available so that I can farm tokens...I am level 6...4 time league winner, 2 time champion league winner...

One thing I agree is that they have to tell us how the game functions in a bit more detail...

NORDEUS has to open up a little with us because........

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The intrigue of playing games is to discover, for yourself, the hidden pyrites and nuggets. You have to experiment and take risk in order to be rewarded. I'm still not sure if this game is about tactics, formation, squad, team and finally individual quality or Vice Versa..hopefully by season 20 I would have some insight..but not all. Cos then it becomes boring.

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Originally Posted by Med78

Congrats to ur opponent! He fetched a win vs a stronger opponent������ You maybe should have gone defensive and counter attack upon seein his team attack a lot..

@rastaman: why r u still playing this game if u think so little of it???????? Seems very weird to me that I always see u here whining... No credibility.

Me i don't buy or farm tokens or packs, and I win :) and when I lose, I don't come here to whine and blame the "axis of evil" or terrorists..... Good day

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Hey Rastaman... when do you think med78 will leave the game??
I think pretty soon...

Also...I love to see token teams being abandoned . It's their lose but also...NORDEUS' loss
Have you noticed the number of OTHER GAMES that T11 advertise for on their freebies. all competing for the same dollar.

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Originally Posted by pitanorf

I think its time to retire from this game.

I'm level 5 and have spent quite a lot of time playing it - mining tokens, rest, treatment, morale boosters and power train...but the last two season I've seen a lot of dodgy results, and they take the pee.

All season I've been losing to inferior teams at home and even to teams playing illegal formation wtf is that about? Today was the last straw CL 1/4 final the team is inferior average rating (45 vs 38) and also in every position. He beats me at home 2-1 after 1-1 in first leg. What bugs is the trend I've seen in that the game engine is rewarding teams unjustly I was watching my CL 1/4 match all way through my team was constantly in the opponents half yet his shot count keeps going up and there's no commentary to reflect this? I was attacking and all of a sudden its "Goal for opponent FC!!" wtf is that about?

Any way rant over and good bye T11 - was once great but there are serious issues that needs to be address!

Rant over LOL. D'day peeps :)

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It seems strange to me that so many players appear on the forum after a relatively short period of time saying they're leaving.
You can't win every game and every season Pitanorf :p

When it comes to the txt commentary if you have a friend that plays it organise a friendly and then watch the match on both phones or laptops you'll be surprised by what you see. The commentary is very different leading both managers to have a different opinion of how the match is going.

Don't give up so early just learn the nuances of the crazy world that is top 11 and come back stronger :)

The first champions league final i reached i got beat by a team 8 qty points lower than me. I was winning 1-0 he had 2 corners in the last 8 mins and won 2-1. I was gutted but i learnt from it and i've never lost a final since

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Originally Posted by DiZZee

I totally disagree.

I have never bought a token. I get about 4 tokens a day extra, in about 2 minutes on iOS
I befriend active managers at the end of each season, on a similar level and we compete against each other.

I hope you reconsider.

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With 4T/day extra you don't need to. If I wanted the same amount of tokens, it'ld cost me 15 euro's a month. So, it's quite easy for you to say. I'll bet your advantage is as big or bigger then your average tokener.

Satan,

Thanks for your comments, I don't expect to win every game - h!ll (no pun intended :)) I've lost to teams that are higher rated or within a few points of my level and have gracefully accepted it, what I tried to articulate was the trend I've observed over the past two T11 season that no matter how much time I put in improving my team it all seems to go waste as results at the end just don't stack up. I read some posts where some peeps suggest that all results are already scripted - I'm now being swayed to this argument.

WRT to the commentary - that could be true but its confusing to see you camped in your opponents half but also have their shot count increasing.:confused:

Cheers,

PN

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Originally Posted by fugazi

With 4T/day extra you don't need to. If I wanted the same amount of tokens, it'ld cost me 15 euro's a month. So, it's quite easy for you to say. I'll bet your advantage is as big or bigger then your average tokener.

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Absolutely right, which is why I seek out competition on a similar level.
Active managers want to compete. It helps them improve their squad , tactics and game enjoyment. Hope you have fun playing this game as well.

you are so right in my league same teams win all the time cups and c/league

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Originally Posted by satansboss

It seems strange to me that so many players appear on the forum after a relatively short period of time saying they're leaving.
You can't win every game and every season Pitanorf :p

When it comes to the txt commentary if you have a friend that plays it organise a friendly and then watch the match on both phones or laptops you'll be surprised by what you see. The commentary is very different leading both managers to have a different opinion of how the match is going.

Don't give up so early just learn the nuances of the crazy world that is top 11 and come back stronger :)

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You can't win every game and every season

i know, but in this season my team is beaten by all opponents in league, before start of league my team had 5th highest quality in league and after 13 rounds my team was on 12 place, today lost 1-3 against team 4Q weaker, in seasons 5 and 9 was similar situation, and in last season in rounds 14-26


The commentary is very different leading both managers to have a different opinion of how the match is going.

yes, this true, and you can quit from match live in 87' and you will see result in fixtures of league/cup/cl

There's a team in my division who at the start of the season (haven't checked since opening day) was the second strongest after todays results he's now 8th

I'd love to ask him what his tactics are as he's not tanking he's genuinely getting beat regularly by inferior teams. The only reason i can think of other than crazy tactics is that most of the players he's bought are youth academy rejects sold by people who are several levels above.

If this isn't the case with your players maybe you have the same problem i had at the start of the season. My best MC from the previous 2 seasons kept getting low match ratings. I don't know why as he was the best player in midfield, probably my whole team. After putting up with it for a week he just became another player shown the door and his replacement is more than filling his boots

Thanks for your comments. I'll mostly likely give myself a rest and tank the next season.

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Originally Posted by satansboss

It seems strange to me that so many players appear on the forum after a relatively short period of time saying they're leaving.
You can't win every game and every season Pitanorf :p

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I fine with this, I've lost to higher rated and lower rated teams that are within a few Q points as mine and have gracefully accepted those. The point I was trying to articulate is the amount of time of effort I have invested these past few T11 seasons look like its all gone to waste - the results at times have been mystifying and just doesn't make sense. I've read in other thread where it has been argued that results are scripted / actions are scripted I don't want to believe it but there are certain game traits / patterns that does make me wonder, e.g. whenever I see an injury where the player can't continue his team seems to scored within a few minutes of that.

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Originally Posted by satansboss

When it comes to the txt commentary if you have a friend that plays it organise a friendly and then watch the match on both phones or laptops you'll be surprised by what you see. The commentary is very different leading both managers to have a different opinion of how the match is going.

Don't give up so early just learn the nuances of the crazy world that is top 11 and come back stronger :)

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Fair enough, but I'm only able tell report on what I can see my screen and for the first 45 mins of my CL match I was solidly camped in the opponents half yet his shot count kept going up, something is wrong here - either the count or the play indicator, either way it should be fixed?

i have problem with shot efficacy, i have the worst attack in league... i had many games where had 8-10 shots on target and scored only 1 goal, few days ago i had 7 shots on target, opponent only 1 shot on target and draw 1-1, yesterday i had 7 shots, opponent 8 shots and i lost 0-3 but my players was after power training, four days ago i bought 11 new players, 7 for first 11, and wait for next season, btw ratings for my MCs was good, 3 MCs have ratings 7-8, only one MC have 6-7

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Originally Posted by Med78

Congrats to ur opponent! He fetched a win vs a stronger opponent������ You maybe should have gone defensive and counter attack upon seein his team attack a lot..

@rastaman: why r u still playing this game if u think so little of it???????? Seems very weird to me that I always see u here whining... No credibility.

Me i don't buy or farm tokens or packs, and I win :) and when I lose, I don't come here to whine and blame the "axis of evil" or terrorists..... Good day

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I play because I am testing things and its a fairly acceptable time waster.

and you dont see me whining. impossible. I dont whine. I point out injustices and bullshiot. like your post for example. saying I whine is bullshiot. I just pointed that out.

congrats to you and your whole family tree for not coming here to whine, but you just lied to everyone here in saying that you dont whine, because that is what you just said to me...a whine about why I am still playing with no credibility.

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Originally Posted by satansboss

The first champions league final i reached i got beat by a team 8 qty points lower than me. I was winning 1-0 he had 2 corners in the last 8 mins and won 2-1. I was gutted but i learnt from it and i've never lost a final since

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what could you possibly learn? what did you learn that made you not lose a final since? I am DYING to know.

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Originally Posted by rastaman70

what could you possibly learn? what did you learn that made you not lose a final since? I am DYING to know.

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i'm curious to know too ahahah... but the guy maybe has a really strong team and he is still in low levels....
This game fools everyone in the low levels. Because with a decent team, in full bots' league, you win without difficulties. But then, then slowly the game change. The league become full of semiactive and you get trolled 4-5 times a season. Then, when you reach my lvl, you are in league with 13 active opps. One day you beat them 5-0 4-0 4-2, after 2 weeks you lose 1-6 0-7... same tactics, same opps ahahaha.
but i know that who won a lot in low levels will not arrive at lvl17-18. Coz when they get trolled 1 time they abandon

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Originally Posted by DiZZee

Absolutely right, which is why I seek out competition on a similar level.
Active managers want to compete. It helps them improve their squad , tactics and game enjoyment. Hope you have fun playing this game as well.

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This is actually sth I haven't really thought of yet. And I still do btw. I guess what you (should) learn after a few seasons is that loosing to a 5-10 weaker side isn't actually that uncommon. It does look huge in the lower lvls though.

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Originally Posted by CarlTaut

This game fools everyone in the low levels. Because with a decent team, in full bots' league, you win without difficulties. But then, then slowly the game change. The league become full of semiactive and you get trolled 4-5 times a season. Then, when you reach my lvl, you are in league with 13 active opps. One day you beat them 5-0 4-0 4-2, after 2 weeks you lose 1-6 0-7... same tactics, same opps ahahaha.
but i know that who won a lot in low levels will not arrive at lvl17-18. Coz when they get trolled 1 time they abandon

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It seems to be a very common theme with this game.

People start off the game winning and think the game is great so they spend some money buying tokens and give it good reviews in places like google store, which will lure new players, and then a few months in they realise the game is a pile of crap by which time its too late. They have already spent their money and helped in attracting new players who will do the exact same and so it just keeps going on and on like that.

In some ways Nordeus deserve some credit for coming up with such a cunning plan.

His squad may have had a rating of 38 but his 'team' may have a much higher rating.......for all the crap players you keep it will lessen your average squad rating........so it doesn't mean he was a lesser team than yours


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Originally Posted by BigB79

It seems to be a very common theme with this game.

People start off the game winning and think the game is great so they spend some money buying tokens and give it good reviews in places like google store, which will lure new players, and then a few months in they realise the game is a pile of crap by which time its too late. They have already spent their money and helped in attracting new players who will do the exact same and so it just keeps going on and on like that.

In some ways Nordeus deserve some credit for coming up with such a cunning plan.

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Of course they deserve credit.... Their Management and marketing teams deserves the credit, but not their programmers. Their programmers deserve nothing, the game is running only because of their good marketing strategies......

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Originally Posted by Saransh Vatsa

Of course they deserve credit.... Their Management and marketing teams deserves the credit, but not their programmers. Their programmers deserve nothing, the game is running only because of their good marketing strategies......

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Of course...i often think they have 8 year old students doing the programming because some of the changes that need to be made are so simple it's not real yet Nordeus can't make them.

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Originally Posted by BigB79

Of course...i often think they have 8 year old students doing the programming because some of the changes that need to be made are so simple it's not real yet Nordeus can't make them.

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LOLs simple java Interface programming involved in increasing space b/w those small boxes at bottom of screen and shifting the Setting Bar can be done even by me with just 1 day of training of interface and graphics designing...... I just know the basics of Java and if this game is written in Java(which I guess it sure is) then I am sure it won't be tough for any body to make changes like that....
I saw the latest update on GPlay that involves some "Numerous fixed bugs and smoother gameplay"...... I think they do this to show that they are doing something while they are actually doing nothing other than counting profits from T sales...... I am not even updating until I see some actual 'Update' in the true sense of the term if nord ever realise what that is....

i only see 1 update so far. thats the play against trollinho, and of course trollinho being able to restalk you until you kindly ask the young gentleman to kick a bucket with the method of his choosing. the friendly fix and 3 hour gap shouldve been hotfixes during the opening months

theres also rumours about this new tranny system, its gotten negative reviews so far. this history and take over another team homebrew juice smells funny and i see dead fish floating around in the cauldron
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...er-market.html

i had the same problem in level 7. I probably had the best team of the league, I watched almost every game and I ended the season 8th. It was so annoying, however I won the next season. If I were you I wouldn't give up

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Originally Posted by littledude072

i only see 1 update so far. thats the play against trollinho, and of course trollinho being able to restalk you until you kindly ask the young gentleman to kick a bucket with the method of his choosing. the friendly fix and 3 hour gap shouldve been hotfixes during the opening months

theres also rumours about this new tranny system, its gotten negative reviews so far. this history and take over another team homebrew juice smells funny and i see dead fish floating around in the cauldron
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...er-market.html

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why would i want to take over a bot team at a level other than level 1? If I want to start over, its to start at a level where I dont need tokens to win the treble.

That update was for android. It is still there but I have not updated....

In the New update in IOS you can now see the player history at the club.