this is smth that yasima and friends who dont know the value of money will never understand
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I tell you what i do:
• I play a game, which i enjoy
• Im spending money on it, as long as i enjoy it
• I dont expect anyhing
• Im having a successful life OUTSIDE OF T11, which you guys dont seem to have, otherwise you wouldnt be able to complain all day.
gaming doenst have an age limitation, by the way.
Eat chocolate is bad, buy tokens too, and don't play games and save all the money during all the life too is bad LOL
so?...
I dont have money management issues. Thats the reason i could easily quit the game and say "f*ck it". Other people come here and rant all day about the games mechanics, transfer market n stuff. Thats stupid, really. If you dont like something, quit it. Anything else is weak.
wow dude, you are correct in that you have the right to waste you money how you want to. its pretty pathetic that you choose to waste it on a mickey mouse game like this rather than the tons of amazing online games that are out there already. but hey, thats your loss.
but for you to say to not come here and start complaining is just plain wrong. just because someone plays for free does not take away his or her right to complain about the game or any aspect of it and those who play it.
a lot of people here have woken up to the reality of this game and the company's lack of respect for its customers. you can play the brave keyboard warrior and brag about your money situation all you want, but it doesnt win you respect in this forum. why do you need respect in this forum? why be here and comment on things if nobody is going to take you seriously? you have ruffled some feathers dude and its a wise thing to do just to agree to disagree and move on.
Time to put the kettle on, have a bar of chocolate! hmmm now where have I heard that before?!"!!!!:p:D
i bought so many chocolates with money i didnt spent on T :rolleyes:
i even bough my gf a chocolate for valentine :cool:
contemptuous much?
• I play a game, which i enjoy - excellent. thats the secondary point of this game, the first being to take your money
• Im spending money on it, as long as i enjoy it - you will spend even when you dont enjoy it because its only money according to you.
• I dont expect anyhing - apparently you do. you expect to be able to insult people on this forum for giving their points of view.
• Im having a successful life OUTSIDE OF T11, which you guys dont seem to have, otherwise you wouldnt be able to complain all day.
what makes you think that people here dont have lives outside of t11?
All I have seen from you is bravado, bragging, contempt and ridicule towards the honest people on this forum thread just because you feel like bragging that you have money and can spend it how you want. Bravo. Congrats. Kudos to you. You are a bright light that guides the young inexperienced people who need someone to look up to......not.
just drop the subject and agree to disagree already.
how many people have to tell you that you are missing the point entirely?
the fact that people come here to complain means that they do not want to quit the game, I would say the majority of the time. And for someone running his own business, it scares me that you dont take criticism as a means to improve your business. I wonder how you even stay in business without knowing that.
facts are facts: there are bugs with this game and many people are pointing them out and you see this as useless. wake up!
If you think its a loss, why are you still here? Its because you frigging love internet arguments, istn it?
Why are you here, if you think this is a mickey mouse game?
Why?
Yes it does, because youre not paying for it. the game is free, so youre free to leave. Always.Quote:
but for you to say to not come here and start complaining is just plain wrong. just because someone plays for free does not take away his or her right to complain about the game or any aspect of it and those who play it.
Its so easy:
You'd drive a free car, right? Anyone would take a free car. Just imagine its completely free and doesnt cost anything. What do you do, when its broken? Right, you either try to sell it or give it away to someone. Or would you seriously bother the company all day, because it doesnt work anymore? >redacted<
Respect? Online? LOL. Good one. Im sorry, but my life doesnt happen online, but yours does. Lets face it, you guys expect something from a company for free. >redacted< Its like standing infront of an apple store and ranting as long as you get an iPad.Quote:
a lot of people here have woken up to the reality of this game and the company's lack of respect for its customers. you can play the brave keyboard warrior and brag about your money situation all you want, but it doesnt win you respect in this forum. why do you need respect in this forum? why be here and comment on things if nobody is going to take you seriously? you have ruffled some feathers dude and its a wise thing to do just to agree to disagree and move on.
Major faceplam, really.
Wrong. It can only take you money if you decide to do so. Dont act like you necessarily have to pay something in order to have a successful life.Quote:
the first being to take your money
Nope, thats wrong. I dont spend money on stuff i dont like anymore. Ill try a while, yea, but thats not a permanent condition.Quote:
you will spend even when you dont enjoy it because its only money according to you.
>redacted< Youre all free to go, yet you decide to stay here and rant about sh!t.Quote:
apparently you do. you expect to be able to insult people on this forum for giving their points of view.
Its like "Hey, i just dont like justin bieber, but ill continue listening to him so i can rant on the forums."
I cant even find words for this anymore. Its just too funny.
Wow did I miss something or is this guy a hypocrit? he raised his own problem on us? SERIOUSLY? and
"Youre all free to go, yet you decide to stay here and rant about ****." and that includes YOU!
And.
"If you think its a loss, why are you still here? Its because you frigging love internet arguments, " and you dont I suppose? WHY are you still here?.
its easy guys: i dont have a problem with the game, you do.
Have you seen me ranting about the game? Not at all. I only complain about the massive amount of >redacted< here.Quote:
"Youre all free to go, yet you decide to stay here and rant about ****." and that includes YOU!
I like the game, its exactly designed the way i expected. its pay 2 win.Quote:
and you dont I suppose? WHY are you still here?.
Please, just quote only one line, where im ranting about the game. Only one.Quote:
what have you been doing for the last two hours?
The thing OP perhaps doesnt understand is that most don't like to be told what to spend their money on, or made feel stupid to spend on this or that. Apart from that, I agree on lots of things.
It is definately a money trap if you're not carefull. Spend or farm too many T in the early game and you'll be needing 5 times that much a few lvls later to keep the results as they are. If you don't spend, you'll end up in weaker competitions enabling you to win a trophy here and there anyway. The beauty of this system is, that it gives the serious farmers or spenders competitive leagues, enticing them to keep farming/spending even more. It also keeps a multitude of (free/35T) players happy, as they are able to be competitive as well for a long while. It's a beautifull paradox. Spending gives you a better team, while not spending just might give you better chances to win. You just got to love the simplicity of the system, exploiting a select few numbers (maximizing intake from them) while keeping the vastly bigger numbers of players happy and content. I believe big numbers are the base of these games, they determine the profit and longevity ultimately.
I don't mind losing if it can be explained. Too many times all logic flies out of the window. My best St this season in one team is an amc played as a central striker. Discovered by accident when all my strikers got injured in the 1st 2 days of the season. PRobably saved myself a few T there.(Nordeus-me 0-1) haha My best performing teams are the ones I don't spend on or even bother to check regularly. Who am I playing really? Nordeus or my opponents? From what posters submit here, and from own experience I kind of feel it's idd closer to a random results generator then a proper game engine.
I have changed my mindset about the game. I manage 3 teams with less time/T spent then on one team previously and if one of them wins anything I'm cool. If it becomes too hard I start over. I enjoy a match from a lvl 2 match as much as a match from my main team. We can complain all we want, but there are milions of not spending players who don't expect results and are most likely enjoying it.
Have I came to the PARTY a little late ??? Oh my bad luck...
Thats just plain wrong, you dont know how games like these work. Look at WoW, the boards are full of rant. Look at GW2, many people are unhappy with the game.
Or maybe visit, RF-Online, its an f2p game i used to play years ago. There are only a few people playing, and the game keeps going due to the top players who keep playing. My point is, they are happy with the game and spend money on it.
As long as there are happy people playing AND paying, the game cant be that bad. Yknow what im saying? People dont pay for ****. And if they do, theyre just plain dumb. I consider myself as a socially and mentally intelligent person. Like i said, im self employed and precisely i know how to manage money and hobbies, trust me.
The game isnt broken or bad, there are just some people unhappy with it. Thats okay, really, but all you guys do is to bash people like me (who keep the game alive due to the payments), calling names and writing bull****.
You people think, ranting on a forum would change anything. It doesnt.
that is just plain wrong. I do know how they work. the problem is you cant compare this game to WoW. WoW is a real game. This is in the same category as candycrushsaga for all its complexity. WoW makes this game look like the retarded step sister.
dude, please stop making yourself look ignorant. There are aspects of this game that are broken. This game is bad if you can compare it to what it should be after 2 years.
and yes, people do pay for ****. It is happening now and you, yourself are doing it. and by your own words then, you must be plain dumb. but you said it, not me.
and lets stop the bull, there are many people unhappy with it, and you are only seeing a fraction of them on this forum. many others are not on the forum.
now, Im not here to call you names or write bull****. Im here to defend the premise that is about what this thread was started: how this game works. you cant tell us, but nordeus can and if we have to rant 200 times daily then its not time wasted. ranting on a forum does help make changes.
I think that everyone has to do what he believes is right
I get it this was directed to someone that lost his job but not everyone is like him ? Seriously people are aloud to spend their money on whatever they want and if you think you can spend that money on better things then go ahead but there are people out there that know how to control their spending and I don't see a problem with spending a little bit of money on a game you enjoy ? In the real world there's people wasting there money on drugs and alcohol so really there's nothing wrong with people that spend money on T11 if they wanna go broke or have problems in life then that's there problem so people that spend money on this game aren't doing anything wrong and you can't say if it's bad or good because it's their lives and there money .
The way I see it, if people want to spend money on the game, and they can afford it...
Ie. not neglecting any other aspects of their life to do it, such as food, family, health etc.
...then I don't see the problem.
However, spending 40€ a month or however much, which I see as a modest sum of money, in your second season, is a little silly.
I made sure I played the game for a good 3 or 4 months before I spent a penny, because it's quite easy to get sucked into the game initially and lose interest.
I have plenty of friends who joined at the same time as me, and quit around level 4 etc. so all the money they invested went to waste.
There's plenty more things that can provide you with better entertainment for 40€ a month.
I remember when I was younger, I had to be the best at every FPS out there.
I spent hundreds of hours making sure I was in the top 1% of rankings in the world, I had to be max level, and prided myself on making a name for myself, in a bloody virtual world.
And now I look back and think... Has doing that really got me anywhere, apart from satiate my pride.
Mate that's what I mean it's there problem if they wanna be silly and spend that much money on the game and maybe go broke for a while it's there bad I spend some money from time to time but I'm not that dumb to go and spend a fortune on a game which I know can be used for something else .. But I don't think there's a problem spending a little cash from time to time on a game you enjoy instead of spending your money on drugs alcohol and gambling that ruin your life .
I completely agree with David ... I am not gonna spend any more on this game