Nordeus, what the ... ?

Nordeus, allow me to say that your game becamed crap :
- I lost against a two stars weaker team. he didn't give any match orders , because he had 6 players on wrong positions. he scored 2 goals with only one striker and 20 possesion.I scored one.
- I have an mc playmaker. lots of wrong passes, opponent counter atacks.
- mc with freekick ability . not a single goal scored in 16 matches.
-6 stars one on one stoper . scored 6 goals from about 20 chances.
-mc with corner kick ability. one good corner in a game against weak teams. non against good teams.
.. and the list can go on...

So explain why should I keep playing? since 2012 I buy at least 60 tokens every month for what? You need major changes in the script.

Ionut,

When FC Barcelona lose with R Valladolid 1 -0 last week, Valladolid in last positions, near to down to 2n division, never won a league, cup, etc, and Barça with Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Neymar, Valdes, etc.... the script of Tata dont work?

I think must knwo the football, and possibiliy in every game. Do you think the other team are dumbs?. If you by tokens everymonth then you must win against this teams?.

I repeat in a lot of posts, start to learn to lose and that % is possible. Sure that if play 100 matchs with same team, maybe only lose 1 or 2 or 3, but while there are a possibility, you can lose.

If you like a exact game, you are wrong, then in real life, dont need play the match, because if Barcelona is better thatn Valladolid, Barcelona win.... bored !!!

All is possible in this life, and yes , you was unlucky and this happens sometimes.

Good Luck for next time, the luck is a % in all games.

So Valladoild played 6 players out of position as well if not stop making pointless real life comparisions. As Most have said previously when Man City start with hart up front and Agerro in goal then we will stop questioning the match engine Its not small teams winning its the fact the ME does not recognize where players should play. If it is to create results like this at least it should play a legal formation with players in position.

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Originally Posted by newbie1001

So Valladoild played 6 players out of position as well if not stop making pointless real life comparisions. As Most have said previously when Man City start with hart up front and Agerro in goal then we will stop questioning the match engine Its not small teams winning its the fact the ME does not recognize where players should play. If it is to create results like this at least it should play a legal formation with players in position.

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na they had 10 players out of position that why they won ;) i might try that :)

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Originally Posted by Sergi Sanchez

Ionut,

When FC Barcelona lose with R Valladolid 1 -0 last week.

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Just to know.. in the match that you're talking about, did you see players with a number indicating their exact quality, stamina, mood on their back?

Football never was a sciencist exact, the only that is exact is the goals :)

u can't compare this marth with barca's, because valladolid didn't played with defender and gk in the middle. anyway, have you read eveything? how about the player with freekick specialty and no goal scored or playmaker that gives wrong passes and puts the rival on counteratack. and so on...

some people don't seem to realize that you can't compare the real life human factor of football "upsets" with this facebook/smart phone GAME.

Robot , RObot... machine !!!, some only think that Robots or marchine .... 1 + 1 always 2, dont know the real mathematicals where 1 + 1 sometimes arent 2

All is possible in this life, and yes , you was unlucky and this happens sometimes.
SOMETIMES my friend. Not at 7/10 matches. Definetly Nordeus need new/better programmers!!!

Never lost to teams that have player playing in wrong positions & not when Inhavr 80% possession, so I must say this has something to do with your players & formation or even the opponents formation.

Anyway having a playmaker doesnt guarantee goals, im fact SA doesn't guarantee a lot. It's just additional points added to skill during matches. And we all know that some players are just duds. I've had a few myself

U just can't compare this game to reality as it isn't even close to reality..... Teams with 5% cnd win... No matter how good a team is, they can not play 90 mins and win after running a marathon. 1 team gets 5 injuries in one match... Name me one match in which that happened??
Valladolid won, but they had players in position. Did u see the match?? The way they pressed??? The way they dounter attacked???? They did not have 20% possession... So pls don't give me that.
And if one team is trolled every weak in real life, there are 100 teams trolled everyday in T11... Can ur school or college footie team ever win against Barça or RMA???? All this nonsense happens way too often in T11.....

Double post:o

Sarans

Valladolid had only 30% posesion, Valladolid shot 1 time scored 1 time, and won. Some players of Valladolid arent in his normal position, strikers eas defending, and all Valladolid in his field. Barça make a bad match, too unlucky, and this day any ball like enter. Hard play for Valladolid, stop the game a lot of times, very mear of italian teams "calecenato".

In this game one player can play in another position , but dont mean that is 0 value for this player. The 99% of times in this game is because our tactic was bad or not the best, and not only tactic, formation too. When is a Boot team or a team with his players position, the normal is that win the other, but sure at minimal %, can win the other.

I repeat, that in any manager game online, if you think that have 5* players VS 2* playes, you must win, you are wrong. I played with teams with more level that me, and more *, and i won, with a big tactic, big position, and an bit luck. Have a player with 5* dont mean is best that one of 3*, remember see all his attributes too. Normal always every manager have equal in defence, attack and mental, and this is a big mistake.

There are a lot of variables. OK, the script coulb be better, but not simple how some like here.

Best Regards

Cmon Sergi m8!!
How you can place right your team on the pitch, with right formation to, when your opponent come to play the match with one player only?
(The rest generated radomly from the server i thing) Well...i have lost many times from such teams. So......dont compare this with real life.
This is abnormal m8.
Today i played a team with six players only, and all of them at wrong positions. 2 stars team against mine, 6 stars. I managed to make the score 1-1 at 84' and took the win 3 minutes after that. Scripts have to written from the beggining with new better programmers. This game is completely unrealistic.

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Originally Posted by newbie1001

So Valladoild played 6 players out of position as well if not stop making pointless real life comparisions. As Most have said previously when Man City start with hart up front and Agerro in goal then we will stop questioning the match engine Its not small teams winning its the fact the ME does not recognize where players should play. If it is to create results like this at least it should play a legal formation with players in position.

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Funny that someone has mentioned Hart. I renamed my players and my goalie became Joe Hart. Last season I had a great team and almost won a treble, but at the end of the season we lost 3 games in a row to weaker teams and missed on league title. I finished 2nd and gave up on this game. I set illegal formation and just quit.
Recently I checked out how the team was doing and was surprised they actually have won a few times, including this joke of a game:
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All the players were out of position, the only defenseman was ST Cahill, DC Ashley Cole was in goal and GK Hart played MR.
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I gave this game another try. I trained my players, feed them morale boosters, set a legal formation and attended a couple of following games. I haven't won a single game after that, even though my team was 2-3 stars better than my opponents. Today I was laughing after I witnessed how my 6* team lost to some abandoned 3* team playing at home, with fully fit and trained players, with me and my buddy in attendance.
This game is a complete joke. Greedy cheaters have created and been running it without giving a damn about any logic.

u are very wrong with this viewpoint, just try to do like me, play trying to obtain something of the game programming. The stars doesnt matter because only tell you the quality in skill points but never will tell you anything about how is the player programmed in the hidden mode, hidden % of effectiveness in all the situations, bonus, Special Abilities added by default that YOU have to discover, etc...

gam ecreate players like in real life, some players ST of 7* will score only 3 goals playing 26 league matches like was my case, others will come and score 3 in a moment. The hidden skills and % by default are the key to understand the game and the mode to play of the players that create this game. because, that's a game... and... usually the players don't talk so is your work to see all that.
Who come here saying that have +2* and have to win is wrong. Too we have to see always the Quality of 11 players, not general Quality, and, all what I've said.

+1, I feel you about this season. So far, I've not won against a team that's lower quality than me. The biggest difference was about 9.4 and I lost 0:2.

But on the kinda positive note, I've been beating teams that are stronger than me.

This is gonna be a lousy season as there's more lower quality team than higher. I've just lost to a lower quality team in cup 0:3.

This is my 5th season and I think I'm done with the game if this continue.

Agree with Khris. This is a logics game that is trying to replicate real football. Of course it will never compare to real life but it tries.

Programmers program certain scenarios and sometimes the logic is off, but to expect that teams of xx stars and shd win over teams lower than that would make the game, how do I put this....boring!

You can have a starting line up of all 5* players but if it just so happens the key protagonists are duds i.e. players who suck, then you are never going to win a match. On paper yes they are 5, 6 or even 7 stars but it doesn't mean they will outperform everyone.

Yes the game has weaknesses & I know they throw random results once in awhile - I have failed to win maybe once or twice in a season against midtable teams, but so far, I have not experienced many of the problems that a lot of you are experiencing...or maybe I have my expectations set very low for T11, so I don't throw a fit when things happen the way they happen

So Chris..you thing that all this have to do with secret skills and hidden programing?? Then can you explain me please why my first scorer at 16 season scored 31 goals rated 7,8 average, and the next one 5 with average 5,7????

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Originally Posted by Nikose

So Chris..you thing that all this have to do with secret skills and hidden programing?? Then can you explain me please why my first scorer at 16 season scored 31 goals rated 7,8 average, and the next one 5 with average 5,7????

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Getting older, up against better players with better hidden points. Your striker's hidden points wore off. It's a cycle. There's ups and down. He in at the bottom of the wheel atm. Which part of "nothing is certain or a given" that people don't understand? There's cosmetics then there Basko Balaban.

Your striker's hidden points wore off
You mean that the special skills/abilities etc given by secret programming have expire day??
Cmon Qambu..
And for your enlightenment i have to tell you that my striker (like few other players) carried about 180 training cones from the previous season, and he is not weak against other new season players. The opposite he is much better than them!!
Αnd if it does not matter to, we have to quit this game!! Its pointless!
Admit it..nordeus engine sucks. A LOT!

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Originally Posted by Nikose

Your striker's hidden points wore off
You mean that the special skills/abilities etc given by secret programming have expire day??
Cmon Qambu..
And for your enlightenment i have to tell you that my striker (like few other players) carried about 180 training cones from the previous season, and he is not weak against other new season players. The opposite he is much better than them!!
Αnd if it does not matter to, we have to quit this game!! Its pointless!
Admit it..nordeus engine sucks. A LOT!

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Not sure how would you know that the other rival players are better than yours?

Having more stars than a rival doesn't mean your player is going to win hands down. I have had Strikers who have scored very good returns in one season and have maintained his star for the next season, but doesn't perform as good as before. I don't blame the engine. I just accept that the player is a one hit wonder and move on. I don't buy tokens but I accumulate enough to get a new player. He can be a hit or a miss, it's part of the game. I have a GK who is two stars but makes 2-3 saves against scouts & 5* strikers to help me win a match.

C'mon man...

Lol!! Some teams i lose this season, come to play with 2,3, or 4 players on the pitch. So the rest just generated rundomly by the server. I dont know those rival players abilities for sure, but if i loose against such teams, its still pointlles to play this game. I know you dont agree but thats the way it is

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Originally Posted by Nikose

Lol!! Some teams i lose this season, come to play with 2,3, or 4 players on the pitch. So the rest just generated rundomly by the server. I dont know those rival players abilities for sure, but if i loose against such teams, its still pointlles to play this game. I know you dont agree but thats the way it is

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While I only have 7 seasons experience and a noob compared to you, I don't think T11 generates players for abandoned teams that come to play with less than 11 players. The starting 11 should be generated based on the subs & reserves. If insufficient you would be given a free 3-0 victory.

Anyway, of course it annoys me when a ST is placed as a keeper and he saves 2 shots and I don't end up winning. I don't think anyone iwho plays this game think that it is a perfect game engine with 100% accurate logic. A lot of ppl like me come here to this forum to offer an alternate viewpoint and try to suggest justification where relevant. Not everyone come here to "bash". We have enough of those.

I don't see anything wrong with ppl like Khris or myself offering some sort of explanation.

I enjoy playing this game despite its flaws and sometimes incomprehensible logic. At the end of the day it is just a game.