How come when I play Away and watch the game, I don't get most of the possession?

Before when I was away, I would win most of the games. But now these past 2 games, I've been letting goals in and losing. I watch most of my games and I get the 8+ bonus possession. When I'm away, I get maybe 4+ bonus possession or 3+ because of the attendance of my opponents team. But on the bar that narrates the game and that moves back and forth, my opponent has most of the possession. Right now, my opponent, who is the home side, is not watching the game, does not have supporters, and only has 4% attendance. I'm watching the game and I have 8% bonus. Which gives me a 4+ bonus possession for the away side. I have 4+ bonus possession for the away side, but in the statistics I have only 20% possession while my opponent has 80%. What gives?? Now I'm out of the Cup game because in the first leg I lost 0-1 at home and the second leg I lost 2-3 away. If the possession bonus works, I should've been advancing with a 2-1 aggregate or a 2-2 aggregate with me advancing in away goals. Now I lost 2 straight games playing away. What's wrong with this???

This could be down to his tackling setting!. I was in the same situation as you last season, I was dominating games but still either losing or drawing, then someone on here posted there stats of a game and after studying them I noticed the only stat that was better on the team that won( but was much much weaker) was his tackling!!! he had alot more that the other team!, so since then I play hard tackling more now and upto now 9 games in I have won every match! it might be a coincedence but the tackling stats on games ive played now have been better than all of my opponenets.

Attachment 21234 I have 4+ bonus possession

Attachment 21235 But I only have 20% possession while he has 80%

This Happened today

Yesterday
My team has a rating of 20 while he has 15
Attachment 21236 I have 3+ bonus possession

Attachment 21237 He has a weaker team, I had a 3+ bonus possession, but the possession % is a big difference...

What's going on? My previous away games, I would win.

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Originally Posted by Skidz

This could be down to his tackling setting!. I was in the same situation as you last season, I was dominating games but still either losing or drawing, then someone on here posted there stats of a game and after studying them I noticed the only stat that was better on the team that won( but was much much weaker) was his tackling!!! he had alot more that the other team!, so since then I play hard tackling more now and upto now 9 games in I have won every match! it might be a coincedence but the tackling stats on games ive played now have been better than all of my opponenets.

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If you look at the pics I posted, one game the tackling is the same and the other I clearly had more tackles.

Did you play a player out of position?

Post a picture of your starting lineup please as Skidz is right you must be playing people out of position to have an 80 - 20 stat

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Originally Posted by satansboss

Post a picture of your starting lineup please as Skidz is right you must be playing people out of position to have an 80 - 20 stat

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This is the first match I lost Yesterday. Trust me, everyone is in the appropriate Position
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Today's Game:
This is the squad that suffered only 20% position. Usually, I have 2 CM and have 1 AML and 1 AMR. But since my AMR is injured, I put an extra CM. I could've added another ST, but I thought the extra CM would balance out possession, but it clearly didnt.
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Originally Posted by Skidz

Did you play a player out of position?

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Nobody in my starters is out of position...

Could it be that it's a Cup/Champions League game?? Before the lost yesterday, I had another game before where I played away and it was a league game and I dominated 4-1. Neither side watched that game, my opponent had 5+ possession due to attendance, but I still had 70% possession.

No one from Nordeus has ever come forward and give a definitive answer on the power of the arrows and exactly what they do.

However if i were you i'd calm down a bit on the arrows and before you say anything it might have worked in the past but as you get to higher levels your playing against more experienced and more competent managers.

When everybody's fit if i was the manager of your team i don't think i'd use any arrows. Maybe and i do mean maybe on the wingers

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Originally Posted by Jomel Dimasuay

This is the first match I lost Yesterday. Trust me, everyone is in the appropriate Position
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Today's Game:
This is the squad that suffered only 20% position. Usually, I have 2 CM and have 1 AML and 1 AMR. But since my AMR is injured, I put an extra CM. I could've added another ST, but I thought the extra CM would balance out possession, but it clearly didnt.
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Everything look fine so I dont know then? all your players had full condition at the start of the match? they are young players? I assume! the only other thing I can think of is your playing close down whole pitch! which would cause your players to tire quickly or you trained them before the match or played a match shortly before that one!

You dont have any player on the right, so you are playing a ilegal formation.

At least one player in each flank, but not more then 2.

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Originally Posted by Jomel Dimasuay

This is the first match I lost Yesterday. Trust me, everyone is in the appropriate Position
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Today's Game:
This is the squad that suffered only 20% position. Usually, I have 2 CM and have 1 AML and 1 AMR. But since my AMR is injured, I put an extra CM. I could've added another ST, but I thought the extra CM would balance out possession, but it clearly didnt.
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Your second game hun you had no one on the right flank it's an ilegal formation you will only get 20% check out the ilegal formation thread !!!!!

http://forum.topeleven.com/formation...ion-rules.html

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Originally Posted by Mo Meow Odom

Your second game hun you had no one on the right flank it's an ilegal formation you will only get 20% check out the ilegal formation thread !!!!!

http://forum.topeleven.com/formation...ion-rules.html

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Thanks! I sort of understand it now. I have another away game also and I'm gonna have to start my lower ranked AMR. I'll see if the possession changes. I'm wondering is it ok if I play a MR instead of AMR?

---St---St---
AML---------
---CM--CM--MR--
DL--DC--DC--DC
------GK-------

Or would it be considered an illegal formation?

An MR would be fine. There's no rule saying formations have to be symmetrical :)

am MR would be fine Jomel and even for some games its ok to put a high quality mc in mr position I find that can work too !!!

Chill on the arrows mate! Tiring ur players fairly fast & risking injuries I figure

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Originally Posted by Qambu Yaasi

Chill on the arrows mate! Tiring ur players fairly fast & risking injuries I figure

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Really? The arrows determine how hard your players work? I would've thought that the arrows are for attacking pressure and staying back to defend. 1/3 of my team is injured and now I have to go out and buy and I have to start some of my not so good bench players. Thanks for the clarification!

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Originally Posted by Mo Meow Odom

am MR would be fine Jomel and even for some games its ok to put a high quality mc in mr position I find that can work too !!!

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on my last game, I started with a 4-3-3 fomation
--ST--ST--ST--
--CM--CM--CM--
DL--DC--DC--DC--
and noticed that after about 20 minutes in the game, my opponent was having more possession than me even though I was watching the game as the home side, 5+ because of my fans, and on his side he had no bonus. So I quickly subbed a DC for a DR and I got back all the possession, but barely won 1-0. Does not having a DR count as an illegal formation if you play 4 defenders in the back?

There is a difference btwn playing a PLYER out of position and playing an illegal formation. Lookup illegal formation . The 2 pic is illegal. I am not sure about the 1 pic. Illegal formation will give you 20 % possession, not out of position.

Yeah Arrows makes your team lose possession if you make them backwards. It is very logic to lose possession if your team is falling back and play defensive.
I only use a forward arrow sometimes on my AMC. My experience with forward or red arrows is that it makes you more vulnerable back and a bigger chance to let in some goals.
If you are under in a game you can put team on very offensive and arrows forward on your attackers, but not on every player then your team just get weaker.

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Originally Posted by Mo Meow Odom

Your second game hun you had no one on the right flank it's an ilegal formation you will only get 20% check out the ilegal formation thread !!!!!

http://forum.topeleven.com/formation...ion-rules.html

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There is no illegal informations in real football, take f.ex Chelsea that plays with DML, DC, DC, DR Back.

BTW the most used formation or strongest in todays football is 4-2-3-1
DL, DC, DC, DR, MC, MC, AML, AMC, AMR, ST ......almost every team plays that formation now

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Originally Posted by Osmund Bakkevig

There is no illegal informations in real football, take f.ex Chelsea that plays with DML, DC, DC, DR Back.

BTW the most used formation or strongest in todays football is 4-2-3-1
DL, DC, DC, DR, MC, MC, AML, AMC, AMR, ST ......almost every team plays that formation now

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then play it !!!!!it's not illegal in this game either hun , illegal formation is a stupid phrase really !!! one that the game uses and the game engine picks up on, Although it would be a stupid formation lol without a keeper etc !!!!!

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Originally Posted by Osmund Bakkevig

Yeah Arrows makes your team lose possession if you make them backwards. It is very logic to lose possession if your team is falling back and play defensive.
I only use a forward arrow sometimes on my AMC. My experience with forward or red arrows is that it makes you more vulnerable back and a bigger chance to let in some goals.
If you are under in a game you can put team on very offensive and arrows forward on your attackers, but not on every player then your team just get weaker.

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R U Freeking Serious????

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Originally Posted by Dman2pt

You dont have any player on the right, so you are playing a ilegal formation.

At least one player in each flank, but not more then 2.

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Lol it was on the 2nd page when someone finally understood that its an illegal formation.... I was shocked at other answers as nobody mentioned illegal formation as the reason, probably it did not strike anyone:)
@OP, yes u need to have atleast 1 player on each flank and not more than 2 on either flank, Mo gave u the link, please see it, its anotr stupidity of the great Nordeus:D

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Originally Posted by Jomel Dimasuay

Really? The arrows determine how hard your players work? I would've thought that the arrows are for attacking pressure and staying back to defend. 1/3 of my team is injured and now I have to go out and buy and I have to start some of my not so good bench players. Thanks for the clarification!

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It's not definitive, just based on my own observation of my players. My players with arrows tire more than those without. If the logic of this game is anywhere near correct, it shd be tiring your players as you are making them run up when attacking and run down when defending.

Arrows whether blue or red means you are asking them to press so that your opponents lose the ball or to get them even further up or down than usual to support defence or attack. I don't quite agree that arrows make you lose possession but it can make you vulnerable to attacks of you play a lot of red.

Blue - only takes effects when not in possession of the ball.
Red - only takes effects when in possession of the ball.

Try this...play friendly and dont have any arrows on your DR/L. If you are losing possession, turn on the red arrows on the DR & L. See what changes.

Anyway, good luck playing a non-illegal formation. And control you arrows. hahaha

My last 3 league games home and away, I've had 3 people watch my game and only 1 game have I had the opponent watch the game but all 3 games I've only had 20% possession and I don't know what to do I've got 1- 5 star and 20 - 4 star players and 1-3 star player what the frak is happening champions league I'm undefeated no problems there, but the league I'm on a 3 match losing streak because of this glitch, can anyone help ???

SOMEONE PLEASE HELP !!!!
My last 3 league games home and away, I've had 3 people watch my game and only 1 game have I had the opponent watch the game but all 3 games I've only had 20% possession and I don't know what to do I've got 1- 5 star and 20 - 4 star players and 1-3 star player what the frak is happening champions league I'm undefeated no problems there, but the league I'm on a 3 match losing streak because of this glitch, can anyone help ???

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SOMEONE PLEASE HELP !!!!
My last 3 league games home and away, I've had 3 people watch my game and only 1 game have I had the opponent watch the game but all 3 games I've only had 20% possession and I don't know what to do I've got 1- 5 star and 20 - 4 star players and 1-3 star player what the frak is happening champions league I'm undefeated no problems there, but the league I'm on a 3 match losing streak because of this glitch, can anyone help ???

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You're playing an illegal formation....

(again, not sure if trolling or stupid)

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Originally Posted by DiZZee

R U Freeking Serious????

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LOL!!!!!!!!! Arrows make my players Stir Crazy! And they will bite each other not the opponents! Brrrrrrrhhhh!

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Originally Posted by Jomel Dimasuay

This is the first match I lost Yesterday. Trust me, everyone is in the appropriate Position
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Today's Game:
This is the squad that suffered only 20% position. Usually, I have 2 CM and have 1 AML and 1 AMR. But since my AMR is injured, I put an extra CM. I could've added another ST, but I thought the extra CM would balance out possession, but it clearly didnt.
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The second time you played an illegal formation so u get 20% possession.

Oh ok thank you for your help because my formation was
Gk, 3 CB's, CDM, 3 CM's, CAM, and 2 STK's so affectively a very narrow 3-1-3-1-2 playing through the middle, I noticed the change happened when I changed defending formation from a LB, CB, and a RB into a 3 CB defence, I have never heard of "illegal formation" before but after having read about it that clarifies it for me thanks heads for that.

Oh ok thank you for your help because my formation was
Gk, 3 CB's, CDM, 3 CM's, CAM, and 2 STK's so affectively a very narrow 3-1-3-1-2 playing through the middle, I noticed the change happened when I changed defending formation from my original 3 backs a LB, CB, and a RB into a 3 CB defence, I have never heard of "illegal formation" before but after having read about it that clarifies it for me thanks heads for that.
Really appreciate it