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You'll never get a reply from Nordeus i only want to confirm your experience . Her is my story as you can see i have lvl 8 mananger i had an impressive history each year league winner cl winner 6 times and 2 cups the last season i managed my team to scout lvl and hardly could win matches in the cup out 2 rnd vs a much weaker temam dito cl i sold my team and started again in lvl 2 with an ordinary team 18.9 qlty in lvl 2 .I just lost my first game in the 1/2 semi cup from a 24 qlty team and all his friends .I can live with that .i havent spend any money on tokens this season .so who loses after all me or NORDEUS