why are you still playing?

ok guys this is serious,
i know football managers are very famous, football mnager 14 is one of the most played games at the moment and fm12 is still in the top100, but top11 is nothing compared to these. is it because its mobile or a facebookgame?
its poorly programmed. the results are completly random on nearly same quality (+-5%)
the transfermarket is not userfriendly, its just develeper friendly
it doesnt matter if u watch the game or play away or home, they just give u the feel of receiving a benefit
tactics are not really important, just look through some "need help against x-x-x" threads, half of the games have been lost.
the only real thing i believe but ive never read something about a proof is that u gain a lot more chances to win when u pay real money to the game(just click through the cupgames)

So your asking what our motives are for playing this game?

I like playing because i never get too moan at home ( wife and 2 teenage daughter`s) :)

in all seriousness i like/love football and i`m not a tech guy, i will give my opinion like when they ( nordeus) bought this new transfer market in and 5 month`s later still same crap ?/ yet they are getting info, sorry they had enough time for info but don`t a brass banana nut`s too admit they messed up`d the same with Champions league group stages this season, they donkey monkey nut`s messed there too but will they admit ? so this is a warning the forum will rebel to facebook and twitter

yeah when i would do a pro/contra list, the only thing on the pro side would be "friends are playing this too", thats the reason why im playing this and its the same reason for my friends, except the ones who already deleted. i just want to know if there are people playing who have exp in footballmanager and really like the game itself, and why they like it

this game is also a lot less time consuming

I play because I want to play an the way this game runs suits me!, Im no kid!, I dont want fancy grahics or to watch games, I dont want to move the players etc! no thats for the real serious gamers!, I play this for a bit of fun and went I get bored I will leave, but it will be on my terms and no one elses!!!.

1) because I want.
2) because I can.

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Because i dont take this game to serious anymore, for me it just to kill free time.
If i win good, If i lose i always have next season.

Being on mobile helps a lot, and the idea of the game have potencial, they just do manage it the right way.

This game is something that I find easy to dip in and out of.

I log in every day, make sure all my players are fit and in the right position for games and if I am free when the games are being played will watch and tinker. However if I am not free I just let it run. The slow pace of the game, where a day is a week in the game works well for me as I just don't wish to spend hours a day behind a screen looking at stat after stat per player like football manager. (I do play and enjoy FM, but T11 is easier to play and manage in a busy working week).

The game engine and support is very poor however. That is why I don't take it seriously. Its quite tragic those that do.

All of the above reasons and as soon as someone comes along with a facebook/mobile football management game that doesn't play like roll of the dice football then me, my friends and probably a truck load of player of this forum will move to that instead.

I have no loyalty to Nordeus whatsoever i'm here till something better comes along that takes up 10 minutes of my day

I like playing this game because i dont have any video games at home (Wii, XBox, Playstasion) that have own forum :p

As many people said above, this game is less time consuming and u can just do by logging in once a day..... One of the reasons for that can be I(and many others) just don't care much about the game now and we know that putting time in it is useless as u can barely make a difference to the result... So that's my stand, I like it for time pass, and seeing that I have not spent a penny on the game or that the game isn't even worth the little time I spend on it, I can quit when I want.... As for FM, I have heard its amazing, that's good, but I seriously lack the time of starting a whole new game and understanding everything there, I will just stick to this game which i have long been playing....

I didn't knew about Top 11 nor did I knew about any other Football Manager game...

I was busy playing Marvel Avenger Alliance and I made some friends for this game...Through one of the friends I received a request for Top 11 and I decided to check it out...And I liked the game...

The thing that works for me in Top 11 is - Its very simple...I didn't took much time to understand the game...Everything is simple and crystal clear...Everything is precise and to the point and well organized...

While if you go for some other game then you will have to make huge effort in understanding that game...

And the most important of all I like this game a lot...Except the NEW TRANSFER MARKET...:)...

No time consuming: Agreed
Poorly programmed: Agreed
Easy to play: Agreed

I play for two reasons. First is I have many friends in top eleven and I like the community. Second is I have invested a lot of time in this, so I may take long breaks but I never quit...well at least till something similar and improved comes around.

I love top eleven due to its simplicity.

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Originally Posted by RJSlow

this game is also a lot less time consuming

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so is jerking off, but I feel that I would rather put time and effort into romancing my wife because the payoff is much better.

hmmm, did I just equate T11 with jerking off? hmmmmmmmmm

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Originally Posted by Siddharth Shanker Singh

The thing that works for me in Top 11 is - Its very simple...I didn't took much time to understand the game...Everything is simple and crystal clear...

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Really? explain to me exactly how special abilities work and the descriptions of each.
Please explain to me how injuries and red cards affect play?
please explain to me the illegal formations and why they exist.
Please explain to me negotiations and the transfer market.

Pretend I dont know anything about the game and now explain those things to me and why people on here are unhappy with them and ask them all the time and dont get answers for most.

Is it really that simple and crystal clear? hardly. Ive been playing it for over a year and I have yet to understand everything about the game and I can assure you that nobody fully understands every aspect of it.

FM is obviously a better game and with the details you can get into, much more satisfying as well. This game is a time waster like pong compared to CoD. You play pong because you are bored and your brother is currently playing CoD and doesnt want you to play with him.

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Originally Posted by rastaman70

so is jerking off, but I feel that I would rather put time and effort into romancing my wife because the payoff is much better.

hmmm, did I just equate T11 with jerking off? hmmmmmmmmm

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You should edit your sig, Im sure you can COME up with a word a little better!!!!:D:)

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Originally Posted by rastaman70

Really? explain to me exactly how special abilities work and the descriptions of each.
Please explain to me how injuries and red cards affect play?
please explain to me the illegal formations and why they exist.
Please explain to me negotiations and the transfer market.

Pretend I dont know anything about the game and now explain those things to me and why people on here are unhappy with them and ask them all the time and dont get answers for most.

Is it really that simple and crystal clear? hardly. Ive been playing it for over a year and I have yet to understand everything about the game and I can assure you that nobody fully understands every aspect of it.

FM is obviously a better game and with the details you can get into, much more satisfying as well. This game is a time waster like pong compared to CoD. You play pong because you are bored and your brother is currently playing CoD and doesnt want you to play with him.

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Everything that I said is with respect to PRESENTATION...
If I go into the game functioning then I fully agree with you...

Even the developers do not know how the game fumctions....

Simplicity, PvP and User Customization.

so its easy to handle but impossible to understand

imagine you visit a friend and he shows you a game which hes playing for 2 years, your curiosity will grow and u getting in to it. there are points u dont understand and u ask your friend whos playing for more than 2years for explanation

whats this? how does this work? do i need one of this? should i build this? why did this happen? why did i get these crazy results?
and all ur friend says is "i dont know, nobody knows even the devs, BUT its easy to play"

what would you think about the game and your friend in this situation?

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Originally Posted by Maik Van de Wildn

so its easy to handle but impossible to understand

imagine you visit a friend and he shows you a game which hes playing for 2 years, your curiosity will grow and u getting in to it. there are points u dont understand and u ask your friend whos playing for more than 2years for explanation

whats this? how does this work? do i need one of this? should i build this? why did this happen? why did i get these crazy results?
and all ur friend says is "i dont know, nobody knows even the devs, BUT its easy to play"

what would you think about the game and your friend in this situation?

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This Why everyone loved T11!
Its do simple, that no one are able to explain how it works.

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Originally Posted by Maik Van de Wildn

so its easy to handle but impossible to understand

imagine you visit a friend and he shows you a game which hes playing for 2 years, your curiosity will grow and u getting in to it. there are points u dont understand and u ask your friend whos playing for more than 2years for explanation

whats this? how does this work? do i need one of this? should i build this? why did this happen? why did i get these crazy results?
and all ur friend says is "i dont know, nobody knows even the devs, BUT its easy to play"

what would you think about the game and your friend in this situation?

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As a player that has been playing this game for more than 2 years I can back up this statement. Nobody knows why there is crazy and troll results other than the fact it comes from how the match engine was designed.

I don't play it anymore, my teams are in auto pilot. If they get deleted, the better.

I've played games since the 80's when I was a little toddler, I had many consoles and computers. This is not a game, it's a monetizing app for Facebook, whoever says because I want and because I can means he's addicted to an addictive facebook monetizing scheme and cannot get out... I've watched a tv documentary about people who destroyed their lives with Travian and Farmville. People can be weird specially if they don't have natural psychological defences against bad habits. The profile is similar to people who get sucked into Fixed Odds Betting Terminals.

I'm in the minority I think ??? I find it still fun !!!!!! havnt spent a penny on the game but can see why people do and thats their choice ! but winning is not the be all and end all of this game !! , Yes we all like to win right ? but I have had more fun including others in here (the forum)in my team, and I think they all look to see what they did/doing in my team , but I wont spend cash to improve . if we lose then we lose who cares it's just a game the fun is sill there ( as I say in the minority here I think) but I play coz its fun for me !!!

The problem is this "game" is like a Tamagochi, if you don't waste either a lot of precious lifetime or money on it, you'll be penalized... And if you spend a lot of time or money on it, it will also surgically penalize you in order to get you permanently attached. Soon or later everyone with common sense realizes that and feels wronged. That's why there's no quit function, so that you forget the constant frustration and return days later. No one makes a Facebook game just for fun.

I only keep playing in the hope that Nordeus get their finger out of their backsides and run the game properly so it realises it's potential.

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Originally Posted by BigB79

I only keep playing in the hope that Nordeus get their finger out of their backsides and run the game properly so it realises it's potential.

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until this game is as good as FM, its not worth paying for and not worth putting hours a day into it. training is horrible, formations mean almost nothing, as do morale and condition, you have magical packs for healing, the players are expensive and the token system is exploited by Nordeus themselves to make you spend as much as possible.

FM makes you pay for the game up front and you have the same game however many times you play it, with rules that are static and you can play knowing that the results are based on your decisions.

T11 on the other hand, tries to make you spend money at every turn. the rules are loose and not consistent. you log out and when you log back in, you dont know if you won or lost because of troll results and when you do get trolled, you cannot find an explanation for where you went wrong.

They will not run the game properly. If it aint broke, dont fix it. and believe me, to the makers of T11, it aint broke.

Because its a relaxing and minimal motion required by player game, suitable for accompanying me in my morning and afternoon coffee.

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Originally Posted by BigB79

I only keep playing in the hope that Nordeus get their finger out of their backsides and run the game properly so it realises it's potential.

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you know that this will never happen?

for nordeus its not a game, its a business, a very easy one, because they choose the best topics: football, managing, facebook, mobile and multiplayer. its supposed to run by itself, they dont have to do anything, except thinking about how to make more money.

when people complain about injuries: - write a "how to avoid injuries" with **** everyone knows ( best nordeus support ever )
when people complain about market: - completly give a ****
when people complain about troll-results: - give more ****s
when people complain about being in leagues with higher levels: - just dont care
when people make suggestions: - can we get more money with that idea? if no, give the same amount of **** as usual
when people make very good suggestions: - watch bankaccount and give some ****s

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Originally Posted by Celtic

I've watched a tv documentary about people who destroyed their lives with Travian and Farmville. People can be weird specially if they don't have natural psychological defences against bad habits. The profile is similar to people who get sucked into Fixed Odds Betting Terminals.

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You only have to look at certain threads and posters on here to see how some have got to that stage. Its quite scary how some are so obsesed they almost want a cult like acceptance from others to get some sense of achievement.