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    Quote Originally Posted by russ2000_uk View Post
    Can't say I agree with you and the evidence of this match would also suggest otherwise.



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    Counter formation may have an affect on the game but its fairly insignificant...

    Counter formation, morale, condition, win bonus , tactics they only have a very small amount of impact on the result ( 5 % say ) while the main decisive factor is Team Quality...

    If a crap team uses Counter Formation against Real Madrid or Barcelona will they win the match - NO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siddharth Shanker Singh View Post
    Counter formation may have an affect on the game but its fairly insignificant...

    Counter formation, morale, condition, win bonus , tactics they only have a very small amount of impact on the result ( 5 % say ) while the main decisive factor is Team Quality...

    If a crap team uses Counter Formation against Real Madrid or Barcelona will they win the match - NO...
    I'd almost agree with this. I'd say that the quality is only the starting point. I'd guess the engine takes quality and applies factors to make an actual performance figure for any given situation. I also think the wide range of these can swallow up any other factors.

    But yes, a crap team that effectively counters Barcelona can win and do. Average teams can and do win muti-match tournaments too if they stick to a game plan which others don't cope with.

    Its a nice comeback and a good story and the changes made may have had an impact. But its not compelling evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffs Mad View Post
    Its a nice comeback and a good story and the changes made may have had an impact. But its not compelling evidence.
    Not compelling evidence, perhaps, but I prefer to think that the main factor in this win was my own brilliance. Indeed, there is no evidence to the contrary...

    Otherwise, it's just luck. And that doesn't make me feel so good inside...

    I'm sure the changes had some impact (after all, I was being hammered) but strongly suspect my opponent's formation relied heavily on the bonus possession he lost when I logged in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russ2000_uk View Post
    Not compelling evidence, perhaps, but I prefer to think that the main factor in this win was my own brilliance. Indeed, there is no evidence to the contrary...

    Otherwise, it's just luck. And that doesn't make me feel so good inside...

    I'm sure the changes had some impact (after all, I was being hammered) but strongly suspect my opponent's formation relied heavily on the bonus possession he lost when I logged in.
    Yep, that's why I intimated that the changes you made may have caused the change. The other possibility is that individually and collectively your team under performed and then improved - you know the impact of quality rather thanorganisation. Or both.

    ofc, I will continue to make changes because I believe they can have an impact but I'll still recognise that sometimes they won't or sometimes it was not the changes that I made that made the difference but other factors where it was generating top of the range outcomes instead of the bottom of the range outcomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffs Mad View Post
    I will continue to make changes because I believe they can have an impact but I'll still recognise that sometimes they won't or sometimes it was not the changes that I made that made the difference but other factors where it was generating top of the range outcomes instead of the bottom of the range outcomes.
    Or, you can make changes and follow this rather simple protocol:

    It changes things for the better-you're a genius.
    Things get no better/worse-T11 is stupid and all matches are pre-ordained.