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20 years' old striker, best player of course, full morale, highest rating, gets special treat upon a low stretching with 86% energy.
6 days or 15 red packs.
You ever heard of anyone in shape who tore his knee cartilage apart just warming up?
Or is it just the shameless routines programmed by the devs to suck out the red packs and compel you into money spending? "want to improve your players? get red packs to heal them all the time".
One of my players has had a broken leg in stretching and it has happened to at least one other manager i know of.
I would understand if players got minor strains warming up. One day out, two days maximum. And rarely.
No one tears cartilage or breaks bones from stretching.
It's just farcical.
The day is not far when some of the players will die from stretching, will commit suicide due to low morale and will suffer a Cardiac arrest due to Cardio...:D...
It's not realistic, but I just assume that every time you do any training there's a chance of a random injury from the full list of possible injuries, which is why some players get serious injuries from just stretching.
That said, all 3 of the injuries to my players in the past couple days have been knee cartilage tears, which seems a bit odd. They all got those injuries from playing in matches though.
The title of the training are arbitrary at best and mean nothing. The logic here would be that doing 3 stretching sessions are the same as playing in a practice match- of course it isn't!! They are just names to put to the 10%, 20% and 30%.
Which brings me to the point on the thread- training poses risks to injury and if you get a broken nose from stretching or a cut thumb from cardio, it is all arbitrary.
Its just called stretching. Think of it as Warm Up if it helps but injuries are just a random event. Its a game an app its not real - are we refusing to do power training because its not realistic to have players do multiple 'Stretching', Cardio or Match Practice non stop?
Just seems that sometimes we'll grab on to anything to justify a good moan.
If you want to complain about injury clusters then do so but lets stop the realism crap.
At least the injury probabilities appear to be proportional to the stamina loss involved (if you assume my lack of Cup injuries is a blip). Over 3.5 seasons I've had a 3% chance of an injury stretching, 6% cardio & 9% practice match, and 18-19% in an actual game.
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Good work done man...:D...These stats will help a lot...
The injury probability of Friendly is highest which indicates that after the update the injury rate in friendly has been increased to stop us from playing friendlies...:D...
Here's my injuries for first half of season.
Day Match Player Injury Length Healed 1 Cup P1 Graeme Souness (MC) Groin Strain 2 No 1 Friendly Paul McStay (MC) Hamstring Strain (G1) 3 Yes, 2 days 2 Training Kenny Dalglish (ST) Calf Strain 2 No 3 CL G Graeme Souness (MC) Ankle Strain 3 No 3 CL G Bobby Murdoch (MC) Knee Cartilage Tear 5 Yes, 4 days 4 Cup Q1 Billy McNeill (DMC Knee Cartilage Tear 6 No, sans reds 6 Cup Q2 Paul McStay (MC) Calf Strain 4 No, reddy bye byes 9 CL G Dave Mackay (DMC) Ankle Strain 2 Yes, 1 day 9 Training Bobby Murdoch (MC) Hamstring Strain G1 2 Nope 10 League Ally McCoist (ST) Something strained 3 Healed, need for Cup 10 Cup PO Ally McCoist (ST)(again) Hamstring Strain G1 3 meh, dunno - 2 days 11 Training Alan Hutton (DR) Knee Cartilage Tear 5 Yes, 2 days. 13 CL G Dave Mackay (DMC) Groin Strain 4 Yes, 3 days. 14 League Dave Mackay (DMC) (again) Hamstring Strain G1 - the bastards 4 aye right:p 15 CL KO Ally McCoist ST *wails* Arrow to the knee 4 Healed all - watch this space for next one. ;) 15 CL KO Dave Mackay Thigh Strain 3 He can rot.
Higher than I've ever had on my main team by a long way....but not as bad as I had on my 2nd team 2 (or was it 3) seasons ago.
Note: I'm absolutely dumbfounded that after the number of hard training sessions I've done on my players for testing purposes that my training injury count is so low. O.o
The Training Intensity does not make any significant affect on injury rate...It all depends on the player...I am sure you will have realized it when you did Power Training on your 15T player...Like my player didn't got injured once inspite of Hard Trained countless number of times...Some times I even Hard Trained him at low health condition just to find the impact of condition on Training speed...:D...Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffs Mad
Yep. I was dumbfounded because its not just my one Academy player I've been capturing data on but another one and 2 Nordgens.
(God, I'm sick of managing player condition. XD)
If you're only power training 1 or 2 players at a time the probabilities of an injury would be pretty low - the stats I did above cover my regular training (as I've never remembered to make a note of how often I power train). Assuming* that injuries are twice as likely in power training as the regular equivalents, if you power train 1 player for 1 practice match the prob. of injury is (0.09*2)/22, which gives an 8 in 1000 chance of injury - ok, if you do that 4 times in 1 day you've got a 4% chance the guy will get injured along the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Siddharth Shanker Singh
* Dangerous I know, but given there seems to be some relationship between exertion and injury prob
PS, my injury figures are based on only training/playing players when their condition is over 80% - and I always sub people if condition goes below 60% in a match. I presume that the injury probability goes up as condition goes down.
I told you guys about this before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Siddharth Shanker Singh
It's insane.
All I meant was an injury depends on the players...If he is sturdy he will not get injured...And the chances of getting an injury from Hard intensity is doubled when compared to Low intensity which is totally fair and just since we also get double skill gain from hard intensity...:D...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete Cresswell
I'm waiting for one of my players to return from an away game with Ebola.
They have caught everything else injury wise already this season.
Its beyond a joke now.
I'm out of all cups
Only friendly game of the day
The opponent plays easy
Everything soft
Full morale, 90% form
1st half:
One player stretched off with a broken foot (7 days)
Another one with a groin strain (3 days)
GET THIS MESSAGE, NORD BOYS:
Give me something worth to spend money, I'll spend.
You make an ass out of me, you get what you've been getting from me since lat year: Zero. Nil. Nada.
Your arts may work with a few blind spenders, they fail with everyone else.
Well said bro...:)...Some day I might also spend if they make the game worth spending...Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtic
