Pay to win player ruin all the fun

First i have to say that i understand that nordeus need to make money, but this is just silly.

I'm at lvl 3 and every good player that i try to buy this Stephan is also buying. no one can compete with him since i guess his mom pays for this game? he bids on every player worth more then 3 mil, i'm not sure what he do with them since he can't have that many, Maybe he is a nordeus player?

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Yesterday i gave up on a good player after paying 25 tokens, didn't want to pay 5+ mil for a player worth 3 mil but that player is not even on his list of players? And i know atleast 5 players that i have follow and Stephan have won but they are not on his player list.
Where are they?

Is Nordeus scamming us? I have never played a game that is more pay to win before but are they also cheating us to pay even more?

Stephan's team was founded 30/07/2014 he is lvl 3 and his team is worth 42.8 mil with an average quality of 35.

Something is not right here.

He bought Tokens. I have had a similar rival my whole career. (I failed to promote last season and one of the bright sides to that is he won't be in my League again.) I figured out he lived in Italy so stopped looking at TL when Italians are awake... then eventually he found the Scout list and I didn't see him on the TL as often. The players don't have to be signed for a week, so unless you continually check his squad you won't know what happens.

There are no bid bots or "Nordeus players". What there are is people who have invested in more Tokens than you would think, that's all.

Sven, this game is not really pay to win. I haven't bought a single token and yet I still manage somehow. It's a good thing that you know that this guy has a lot of tokens - now you can simply avoid bidding against him. I know token buyers on my level and this helps me avoid losing tokens against them. Try to find the best time of the day to go into the auctions, and you will get your players for next to nothing. Trust me, I'm an auction addict and not many levels above you, you just need to work out the auction tactics. Best of luck!

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Originally Posted by Anna Martyniec

Sven, this game is not really pay to win. I haven't bought a single token and yet I still manage somehow. It's a good thing that you know that this guy has a lot of tokens - now you can simply avoid bidding against him. I know token buyers on my level and this helps me avoid losing tokens against them. Try to find the best time of the day to go into the auctions, and you will get your players for next to nothing. Trust me, I'm an auction addict and not many levels above you, you just need to work out the auction tactics. Best of luck!

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This really is pay to win, how else would you explain pay to win?
You can't get a scout player without paying for it and that player have 11 scouts... also paying money give you a lot more skill point, something a free to play player can't get. It is pay to win. paying players also get a much better stadium and get more money that way also, pay to win.
I can't think of another game that is more pay to win then this game.

And Cat
Last two players i lost to him was lvl 5 MC why would he want to buy lvl 5 MC? he already have 3 lvl 6 and 2 lvl 5 on the bench.
In one day he have spent 10 mil on two players he cant even use. It does not make sense.

Some players have a lot of fun in bidding against others. I do not, but there are certainly people with many Tokens who see no problem spending hundreds of T in auctions. (Perhaps he has a lower level friend he is selling them to)

Anna is correct. You can play this game for free. When you have a stronger Team, you wind up in a stronger League, barring any weaker friends on the same level. So, if you have an average Team it can be easily maintained for free, especially if you tank the occasional season. I have a team that I created as a punchbag for my main Team, I do get boosters from videos on FB but that's about it.

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Take it easy, just find a way you will feel happy to play this game. Even if no player pay for the game, you may still find some other players have methods of farming more tokens than you, and then you will feel unfair and unhappy again.

I also do not pay, and only get 35T per season. I never try to get any scout player, because I know I cannot afford. I avoid involving in long bidding war. Usually, I stop bidding after spending at most 3 or 4 tokens. Instead of enjoy winning all auctions, I enjoy smartly winning or even smartly withdrawing in bidding. If you are calm and patient, you can get many players with 1 or 2 tokens. Certainly, you cannot get the best players at will.

It is not realistic to expect winning every season. There is no fun if it is too easy. I enjoy challenging and upsetting stronger teams.

for 3 seasons now, first 3 days each season I go in bid wars against "Bui" !!! well not really bid wars, but I spent +150 tokens against him in the last 3 seasons and never won an auction against him. so I decided to wait till he buy what he need :(

As Cat said, if your teamquality is superb, you will get promoted to leagues where you'll be facing really strong opponents. I take it easy and buy 4 or 5 stars players just to replace the 3 stars players. My league levels have never been demanding for me and I've been doing just fine.
Also I wake up 20 minutes earlier on week days and try to get a new player during the morning coffee time. This is the time of the day when the token buyers I know about are still sleeping. If I'm lucky and there is someone I like, I usually get him for 1 token. If not, I try the next day.
Today I bought a 5 star young goalkeeper for 1 token, 2 points away from 6 stars, already tested him in the CL and he's a keeper (no pun intended!) :)

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Originally Posted by Sherifon

for 3 seasons now, first 3 days each season I go in bid wars against "Bui" !!! well not really bid wars, but I spent +150 tokens against him in the last 3 seasons and never won an auction against him. so I decided to wait till he buy what he need :(

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Good plan!

Your signature inspired me to get animated text too, Sherifon, I've been admiring yours and had to get something cool like that.. :D

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Originally Posted by Cat Harrison

Good plan!

Your signature inspired me to get animated text too, Sherifon, I've been admiring yours and had to get something cool like that.. :D

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Wow, Cat likes my sig ? YEEEES !! It's honor for me :D

Seems this game has fully become pay to win in 2018.
Been playing this game since 2012.
Never paid for any tokens and done okay, 10 leagues 1 cup losing finalists plenty of times.
But the 2018 upgrades killed the gameplay, i could outsmart better teams by changing formations in the game but seems that doesnt count for anything anymore.
Massive timelag between changes made and actually actioned in the game.
I havent been promoted for 5 seasons now. All my players i train up and they are better than any players i can get from the market.
Saving up my tokens to get 39T player from scout suggestion. Not made much difference.
Season before last i had 5 zombie teams in my league from players who had just given up.

All the games that are similar in construction with Top Eleven are pay to win. You cannot put limits or something is the reality we must face. As long as you do not have a physical control over the player in the end is a pay to win game.

... or you can start digging on the forum or many other Top Eleven communities and try to understand better the game. Sometimes you can win the title with a 3 stars team easier then with a 7 stars team but to do that you must spend some time in-game.

Maybe is your fault as well cause you always focus on literally the best players on the market rather then those accessible to you?

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Seems this game has fully become pay to win in 2018.

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lol
You must be joking now.
With friendlies you could build a 8*-9* team for free.
And the year before, we had the unlimited loans.
I guess you missed those episodes.

I don't know about the unlimited loans, since I play the game from 2 months now.
What I totally agree, however is the friendlies. You can literally do miracles in no time :))
This ofc, depends on your friends too and timing :)
Good luck.

Wow.

It’s a miracle.

After moaning on here I get put into a league where I am the strongest team at 107%.

Probably about the 1st time in 25 seasons I have had the best players in my League.

😉

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Originally Posted by cgeorge

Seems this game has fully become pay to win in 2018.
Been playing this game since 2012.
Never paid for any tokens and done okay, 10 leagues 1 cup losing finalists plenty of times.
But the 2018 upgrades killed the gameplay, i could outsmart better teams by changing formations in the game but seems that doesnt count for anything anymore.
Massive timelag between changes made and actually actioned in the game.
I havent been promoted for 5 seasons now. All my players i train up and they are better than any players i can get from the market.
Saving up my tokens to get 39T player from scout suggestion. Not made much difference.
Season before last i had 5 zombie teams in my league from players who had just given up.

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Sorry mate,

Maybe its tactics or something, I never spent on this game and every season I play the league title and als the cup an cl is mostly 1/4 Final or better