Printable View
You have too joking no way in hell will i ever buy scout after the last 22yr old scout that cost the normal 50 tokens and trained slower than a dead donkey, now you have increased it ????
so one question needs to be answered have you increased training for these scout`s to be actually worth spending 69 tokens ?? or do they still train like dead donkey`s
Yes Guys check your scout lists even on Desktop Browsers my New T11 2015 scout lists went up today,even more CRAP for even more TOKENS!!!!
Same with the Mobile. I saw it right after it updated last night (I live in US). The higher fee for the 22-23 year olds while the older players are actually less (some in the 35 range).
The only reason to buy scout players is that they provide an instant 6, almost 7* player who can provide an instant upgrade without a lot of training and have a SA.
They are not long term solutions regardless of their age. I am only a 1st season player but adding a couple of them has helped me buy time to learn the game while winning. 16-1-0 54GF 2GA in league since I got the team to a 5* avg.
I doubt I will be using scout players in later seasons, though the ones I bought will be good players up to lvl 3 without training well. My ST is now a 7* and is getting about 1.5 g/a per game and my RM has 15A as a corner specialist so it isn't like they were useless.
I actually like the new scout list.
It makes people really consider if a player is worth while getting - and it might just stop some from packing out entire teams of scouts without much care, as now it might be a case of actually looking for a player in a position that is needed and weighing up if it is worth while.
On a personal point of view, I often find that as Scouts train slower, a high level 5 star player could be better value than a scout. I often find going on the next season the Scout player is on a par with the high level 5 star player due to the training speed and within 2/3 seasons the scout player has no overall quality on a normal player. Thus as you can now buy older scouts for as little as 39 tokens it could be argued that budget scout management is also available.
I think its up to players to decide if its worth investing in scouts. I think there is some value in the older end ones now, rather than the younger aged ones. Personally I prefer to use high 5 star players rather than scouts, so I cant' say the changes to me look all that bad. In honesty, I do think its slightly better.
Add in the fact that with the new updates to training on phones, it is now possible to power train players a lot quicker (as in it now takes around 7 seconds, compared to an hour for a match training) - it brings up the decision if hording green packs and power training a player up to scout level is a better option than buying a scout outright.
as i said i would not buy scout`s again as they train slower than dead donkey BUT that said If they T11 brought the age down to say 20 and training was a bit better then i might consider buying the odd scout ?? but we all said this over the last few year`s and they still not listenedQuote:
Originally Posted by kynan
What's the point buying a scout for 69 tokens that could be a total disaster? you can't even make tokens from videos anymore. do you want us to buy tokens? even if was rich like bill gates i wouldn't buy your tokens.
Hence why you could save up your green packs, pick up a 5 star player that is aged 18/19 off the market who is only one or two cones off being a scout, then power train him using the green packs and make him a very good scout for the fraction of the tokens it would cost to get an older scout on the market.Quote:
Originally Posted by bergkamp
Instead of spending 69 tokens if its deemed too much, why not convert 50 of the tokens to green packs and power train the younger 5 star players you can pick up instead - that could quite possibly lead people to be able to get cheaper scout rated players in the long term.
I am able to get 15-20 green packs a day from videos on android (I am in the US so I dont know if it is different elsewhere). I have started doing exactly as you described. I am about to finish my very first season. I used several scouts to give me an instant boost (all of them were rated 28-29 so nearly 7* when bought. I would not go that route again because it costs more but at the time it took an hour to train and I didn't have the time to build up slowly without losing.
Now that I have clinched the league title and have the cup final today I started to sell of my lower rated players and anyone I won't use next season and have bought several 18-19 year old players worth $1-2.5M and am training them up to scout level. I have to balance this well though to avoid a bad cup draw next season. I have an avg rating of 22.3(5*) with 21 players right now. I know I will have to get that down as close to 14 as I can and then get some weak bench players to lower my rating before the season ends in a couple days.
I am having trouble finding information on this board. Does anyone have info on all the facility upgrades, the attendance limits per lvl, or what is a good target rating for a starting 11 in lvl 2? I want to keep winning trophy's and I don't think I am gonna be able to do that without doing my homework. I just winged it this season without reading any guides and did very well getting to the cup final and going 16-1-0 down the stretch in league (54GF 2GA). I want to have similar success next season so I really need to know how much I'll need to improve my roster before the season is over so I can make better decisions on who to keep/sell.
TIA
David a lot of the best information will be way back in old threads but try surfing the wiki link page for what you needQuote:
Originally Posted by David Grizzle
Top Eleven Official Wiki Best Wishes
Remember some info will have changed due too T11 2015 and some really stupid updates!!!
Just don't rush building... keep building every time you can afford it. Yes, you want to have good facilities but don't use Tokens.
If you sell off your lower Q guys at the end of the Season your Cup draw will blow. I have always a high Q team and so I have lots of League and CL wins and ONE Cup. There is nothing wrong with keeping lower star guys that perform well! Even a 1 or 2 star guy can get good ratings and contribute to the team. It is more important to get rid of players with bad ratings who don't contribute.
And about the Scouts (back on topic) the idea was to offer some cheaper and to do so they raised some too. I think it's good that there are less expensive ones, but the 69 does seem steep after having gotten the same guy for 50. I do wish they put some younger guys on that list though!
I don't understand why people buy scouts. For 50+ tokens I can buy a whole new team that will be the top star rated team in the league. OK, I may need the $ to do so but I would rather spend some of the tokens at the bank to get $ to buy several players rather than on 1 scout player.
Who can tell why I can not make a proposal to transfer the player on the other team?Attachment 37631
LMAO. Nordeus want more tokens from you! Scout players are now 19 tokens more expensive. HAHA. I know what you did there.
you buy scouts, cant you just "buy" the information you are looking for?? Seriously, if you "winged" it and almost won it all, why the hell do you need any more info? With the amount of trolling by the game, you dont need scouts to win anything, just a solid 4/5* team and some luck. a lot of luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Grizzle
I did win the league and the cup lol. People can say what they want about buying players as if it is somehow wrong or it makes me rich (I wish). Football is a sport dominated by those who can afford to win. You want a fair game play an american football sim with a salary cap.
I didn't know what I was doing so I just improved the team quickly. If I knew what I know now I might not have but I got a cup which apparently is something rare so I don't regret anything really.
I want more information because it will get much more competitive as I lvl up. I don't know about you but I want to win everything I enter. That isn't going to happen but I am damn sure going to do what I can to make the odds better.
Enjoying wintry mess in the Ozarks>? :D
There are some good tutorials from some of our Forumers: http://forum.topeleven.com/tutorials...ls-guides.html they helped me a lot when I started.
So far not much mess, little chilly but it's not the northeast. We had a tiny bit of snowfall but nothing stuck. I moved here from the Stockton area in 2011 by the way. Lived more than half my life in NorCal. Santa Cruz, Fremont, Livermore, Manteca.....slowly moving outwards as it got more expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat Harrison
I did look through some of the tutorials. I cannot find a lot of what seems like basic info for a game with this many players. Stuff like the attendance limits per lvl, list of facility upgrades since you can only see a couple lvls up, and a basic idea for how quickly the competition escalates as you move up (I don't want to get in too deep)
Lvl one was full of inactive players and even those who were there didn't improve their teams much. I couldn't quite understand why people who were there every day and exchanging packs with me still had $3M in the bank and a 13 rated team but I did have a fun league race that went down to the last 3 games and one hell of a cup final that I won in ET after coming from behind twice and surviving a penalty in the 94th min.
Since you already have a really nice team, slow down with buying and selling players. The first few levels are fairly easy as most people are still learning the game. It is your chance to play with the orders and formations to see what you like & what works for you. The first few levels it is slightly easier to win a treble (if you arent in League with friends) and that is a fun thing. There are bots, and people that started to play and abandoned their teams early on, as you level up there tends to be more active managers.
khris has some useful info collected in OMA: http://forum.topeleven.com/groups/of...sociation.html I rec' reading the group posts and as many Tutorials as you have time for. This one http://forum.topeleven.com/tutorials...-part-1-a.html helped me a lot.
p.s. I'm from St. Louis.. I miss everything but the weather.
I have them now too but I will not buy anymore:cool:
Another thing that is annoying is that the scouts now are all 15 cones from the next level. Meaning even if you pay 69 tokens for a player at say 64, you will not get a 64.6 average, but only a 64
If I can get a young scout I will always buy one. I know a lot of people say they are a bad deal, but the reality is that you can spend anywhere from 5 to 15 or more tokens bidding on a good player, then you have to spend another 50 Greens (45 tokens) to train them to the level of a scout and that is not considering a few injuries along the way. You end up paying more! The only value in my mind is that the regular players, if they are really good, stay with you longer.
Yeah I am one that likes buying & training. But I will buy a Scout GK (in fact I have two on my team right now! but will sell one tomorrow), since I had found it an easier way of getting at least an ok GK.. but no way will I spend 69T for one now, it makes training an 18 y.o. way more attractive.
I found me a 18yr old $2. 5M ST in lvl 1 to go with the 2 that avraged 22G 10A. Don't feel right selling the soon to be low 4* or the scout that will now be just a 6* I have about $10M in the bank and will be taking the best 18/19 year old players at 4-5 positions. I got enough to win battles at all of them.
Is there a way to get money in game without spending tokens? i'm actually have 300 tokens and 2.5m in money in level 2. I was thinking in save some more and do like you guys are saying, buying 18/19 yr old and train it, but with only 2,5m i cant get more than one player. And only one player isnt enought to get me in the top of my league.
At the lower levels the only good way to make money is continually look on the TL for younger (not 29&up retirees) Free Agents to buy and use (and sell player they replace) or just sell directly for $$.. and stay in Cup it's usually good prize money per match.
I was just writing the same... this game is crap. Ok, they do that for money, but surely in nordeus nobody knows the Laffer curve.
I was ready to buy some tokens and get 2 scouts.... after this +40% of price increase, f.ck you, let's play with my past team
The ways to get money without spending tokenQuote:
Originally Posted by Black Lotus
-get them from sponsor.
-win games in cup and/or CL. Each win brings more prize money.
-rank above 7 in league to gain prize money.
-pay attention to your home game attendence, adjust ticket price so that you get the most out of it.
-increase your facility levels to gain more from ticket sales.
-sign free player from the academy.
-sign young players or even young free agents from TM, train him and resell him in NEGO for more than 1 token. You may even gain token from this.
-keep average age in the team lower as older players lose value as they age, your expense will greatly drop if you only keep younger players in your team and sell the oldies (above 27yo) as soon as possible.
Spend 50 greens to train them to level scout ??i don't understand, can you explain me ??? How to win star with green pack ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Zan Barrage
I did spend tokens on building and even speeding it up. My main goal doing so, was to complete the research, sports and youth center.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat Harrison
To receive more packs on own account in a faster pace, and have top talents asap (As good as they come anyways) I use own youth players to train and relief my main players in matches that are less important or against lesser opponents.
This way they improve faster too, allowing me to give them Special abilities and after a couple of seasons sell them, as for the free players, I usually just take them to sell them. This gives me increased "revenue" All the other buildings were secondary and due to the order of building were mostly required to proceed to higher level of building.
My main players usually are scouts, making it easier to blend youth players in without giving in too much on quality and performance.
This allows me to eventually line up youth players in tougher matches and cup, giving them better stats overall .(also more experience , hence improve them even more)
You don't have to buy tokens at all nor spend it on speeding it up (pretty costly), However I like to play to win, and how Nordeus has the game. Spending more gives more opportunities, (however, just plainly spending tokens doesn't necesarily grant succes) It does highly favour the odds though.
You have a good plan. Getting the packs and having nicer facilities does help! I just wanted to stress that speeding it up for T isn't needed. I have completely finished building, but even if I hadn't sped up anything I would have finished by end of this season. (season 23)
I am a fan of the Youth program, I buy mine when they fit on my team. I think they are usually better than the same guy on TL. And a way better deal than Mr. Scout (even with the new pricing) because I prefer longer term players.
