Anybody else do badly in the cup? I have won the league 7 times, 7 times runner-up and won the Champions league twice and been runner-up 3 times but never do well in the cup. Out of 29 seasons I have got to the quarter finals twice, last 16 once and playoffs twice. All the other times I have been knocked out at qualifying or even preliminary stages. It seems to be an extraordinary record. What is the secret to doing well in the cup?