Message to some moron trying to buy my player...

I have done this once before and got results, decided to try it again, since this is the 7th offer for this player in the past 2 days. I found the player on Facebook and messaged him:

This is <redacted> of Top 11. You made a bid on my player <redacted> of ZERO tokens. I do not sell anyone for ZERO tokens, especially when they are five star players with one skill point away from scout and with a special ability. Would you sell this type of player for nothing? IF not, then why ask me to have him for nothing? He cost me 18 tokens to buy him from another player, and you want to get him 2 days after I buy him and I lose 18 tokens?? What did you drop to make this offer? 8-9 tokens? Again, I paid 18 tokens. And it took me 10 days of constantly making the offer in order to persuade the guy to sell him. Another fact: the seller did not need him - the player was 1* to him and he increased his skills in order to make tokens. He made 5 tokens on the sale. You are asking me to make ZERO tokens on the sale to you. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

In the future, try offering 2-3 tokens to the player you want to buy from and maybe, just maybe they might sell to you.

Also, you should check to see if I need the player first, and if I need him, why would I sell him? Use the grey matter God gave you next time you make an offer and you wont be insulting other managers.



Now, I would update the game to fix this situation by increasing the cost every time the seller denies the sale.
Example: the player offers ZERO tokens, costing him 8 tokens total. I reject the transaction and the next time he tries to make an offer, it automatically goes to 1 token + the mandatory 8 + the 1 token for the Nordeus cut, for a total of 10 tokens. and if I reject that, it goes to 2 tokens + the mandatory 8 + the 2 tokens for the Nordeus cut for a total of 12 tokens, etc. This way you dont constantly get ZERO token offers.

I don't bother with it tho... 99% of offers for my players is 0 tokens and I just love to keep their tokens trapped for 24 hours... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Sully

Now, I would update the game to fix this situation by increasing the cost every time the seller denies the sale.
Example: the player offers ZERO tokens, costing him 8 tokens total. I reject the transaction and the next time he tries to make an offer, it automatically goes to 1 token + the mandatory 8 + the 1 token for the Nordeus cut, for a total of 10 tokens. and if I reject that, it goes to 2 tokens + the mandatory 8 + the 2 tokens for the Nordeus cut for a total of 12 tokens, etc. This way you dont constantly get ZERO token offers.

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If Nordeus would split those initial token price with sellers, such problems would be avoided... And initial price is not enough for Nordeus, but they want 1 token more for every token sellers will get over the price... Greedy, if you ask me...

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Originally Posted by Steppenwolf

If Nordeus would split those initial token price with sellers, such problems would be avoided... And initial price is not enough for Nordeus, but they want 1 token more for every token sellers will get over the price... Greedy, if you ask me...

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yes but it is a deterrent. If the cost was low, everyone would be transferring players for nothing. Then how would they make money on tokens?

And yes, I sometimes lock up their tokens, but frankly, i get more satisfaction from messaging them and calling them morons.

I had several guys make the offer while I am online, so I immediately reject it, and they IMMEDIATELY do a new ZERO token offer.
I reject it again and again and again and the guy did not take the hint. That was the first guy that I messaged and he got the hint and came back with an offer of 5T, which I recall I accepted, but not before I bought a replacement for 1T.

relax, you think you're the only one that gets bad offers lol? I really hope this guy keeps 0Ting you until you snap and sell your whole team lol. And that last bit about the transfer savvy, nice 4T profit bro, many .jpgs could b made in honor of your ruthless negotiation tactics.

I don't like that there is no simple messaging system between managers, mourinho was/is a master of media manipulation and we can't even spit game before/after big matches to our opponents like other sims can lol and this one has his face all over it. good ol top 11-15-condition guessing text battle auction snipe simulator

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relax, you think you're the only one that gets bad offers lol? I really hope this guy keeps 0Ting you until you snap and sell your whole team lol. And that last bit about the transfer savvy, nice 4T profit bro, many .jpgs could b made in honor of your ruthless negotiation tactics.

I don't like that there is no simple messaging system between managers, mourinho was/is a master of media manipulation and we can't even spit game before/after big matches to our opponents like other sims can lol and this one has his face all over it. good ol top 11-15-condition guessing text battle auction snipe simulator

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im very relaxed thanks, have been playing this game for 2.5 years, so have had my share of phucking morons zero tokening me to death. I just feel like I have to take it to the next level for my own personal satisfaction.

I am glad there is no personal messaging system, because that is something that is easily abused and really not necessary. If you are friends with someone, you can easily find them on facebook, for the most part.

I think taking away one token from offeror is fair in t11 world.

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lame! why would any one accept such studid offers?:rolleyes:

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lame! why would any one accept such studid offers?:rolleyes:

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I don't know lol... anyway, I could get 30-50% more money if I would sell them at auction, through bid war, but it seems they are stupid to realize that...

BUT THIS WAY THERE IS NO COMPETITION JUST PRice and pay

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Originally Posted by Sully

I have done this once before and got results, decided to try it again, since this is the 7th offer for this player in the past 2 days. I found the player on Facebook and messaged him:

This is <redacted> of Top 11. You made a bid on my player <redacted> of ZERO tokens. I do not sell anyone for ZERO tokens, especially when they are five star players with one skill point away from scout and with a special ability. Would you sell this type of player for nothing? IF not, then why ask me to have him for nothing? He cost me 18 tokens to buy him from another player, and you want to get him 2 days after I buy him and I lose 18 tokens?? What did you drop to make this offer? 8-9 tokens? Again, I paid 18 tokens. And it took me 10 days of constantly making the offer in order to persuade the guy to sell him. Another fact: the seller did not need him - the player was 1* to him and he increased his skills in order to make tokens. He made 5 tokens on the sale. You are asking me to make ZERO tokens on the sale to you. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

In the future, try offering 2-3 tokens to the player you want to buy from and maybe, just maybe they might sell to you.

Also, you should check to see if I need the player first, and if I need him, why would I sell him? Use the grey matter God gave you next time you make an offer and you wont be insulting other managers.



Now, I would update the game to fix this situation by increasing the cost every time the seller denies the sale.
Example: the player offers ZERO tokens, costing him 8 tokens total. I reject the transaction and the next time he tries to make an offer, it automatically goes to 1 token + the mandatory 8 + the 1 token for the Nordeus cut, for a total of 10 tokens. and if I reject that, it goes to 2 tokens + the mandatory 8 + the 2 tokens for the Nordeus cut for a total of 12 tokens, etc. This way you dont constantly get ZERO token offers.

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Or add a button, like in the counters.... activate = this player appears in negotiations list, not active, then nope.
Is that simple.

'Scuse my ignorance, but how are you meant to know if a manager actually wants to keep the player and what's the reasoning behind putting them in the transfer list.

All the 'negotiation' players I buy are zero token bids.
I check and make sure the other manager is a few levels above me and the player is one of the lowest rated in his team, so he's obviously rebuilding a new squad.
I'm doing him a favour by getting rid of the player for him instead of having to wait days on the transfer market with nothing happening.

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All the 'negotiation' players I buy are zero token bids.
I check and make sure the other manager is a few levels above me and the player is one of the lowest rated in his team, so he's obviously rebuilding a new squad.
I'm doing him a favour by getting rid of the player for him instead of having to wait days on the transfer market with nothing happening.

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good for you. seriously. only I have not had the pleasure of getting these ZERO token negs. Most of the time I only get from managers a few levels above so I know they are just wanting to get rid of them for tokens. I have yet to have someone sell to me for Zero. You are lucky I guess.

and I sold one for Zero yesterday since I replaced a 4* player with a 5* - a few SP before scout (for one token) and the ZERO token offer was better than waiting a few days for the player to sell and almost his worth, so it was win-win. SO i guess it could happen occasionally that ZERO tokens comes away with success, but usually not in my experience.

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'Scuse my ignorance, but how are you meant to know if a manager actually wants to keep the player and what's the reasoning behind putting them in the transfer list.

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you cant absolutely know unless you can message them and ask. Otherwise you check to see if they are actually using them or if they are constantly in the reserves. Also, if they are levels above you, you should be able to determine if they actually use the player or not and if not, you should be able to buy for the right price.

this is why i never leave player 1 or 2 skill away from next star so too avoid bids and when i`m ready too sell then i`l leave 1 skill away from next star and set selling price if offer received is a joke

Someone keeps sending me zero token offers for my bench players. This would make sense for most teams except my bench is made up almost entirely of fast trainers so it is just laughable. They would seriously have to offer me like 70+ tokens to pry any of them unless they are busts, which in this group I have yet to determine.

As I have mentioned before I have a full 22 man roster with all of 2 players over the age of 21. The other 20 are all nordgen fast trainers. 13 of them I have proven to be successful over long stretches and the rest I just have to find more playing time for. Probably friendlies since I am in no mood to take stats away from my starting 11, especially the attacking players who rack up massive stats.

My 2 starting strikers last year combined for 85 goals and 38 assists in 40 and 41 games. My LW/CAM/RW combined for 67 goals and 52 assists in 39/38/33 appearances. Hell my back 4 combined for 15 goals with none of them having forward arrows.

Where in there do I take playing time away to play an unproven player? They pretty much all get 7/8/9 ratings consistently. Only at GK do I have rating issues and considering that I concede less than .50 goals per game I wouldn't exactly call it a crisis.

Right now my only actual concern is why on earth my 19 year old RB has suddenly tanked down to 6/7 ratings while their were no changes to my starting 11 and he was a monster in his first season.

If a player offers the market value or something close to it I usually sell the player (as long as the player doesn't get substantive playing time). Market value is nice, but most players on auction sell below the market value, so with this in-mind I'm not going to be horribly picky regarding bids placed on my player. I don't get tokens on auction sales either, so the tokens drop the market value at which i'm willing to sell my player at a little as well.

They are just tireless... :rolleyes:

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Same here. Buyers from Asia have billions and always offer the minimum... several times. They insist several days with the minimum bid even if you set the price.

I used to offer 4 or 5 extra tokens to the seller.

But oce you get to 100M players, you lose a lot of cash for more than 3 tokens because it raises the value to 125, 130, 140M, etc.

Not worth.

Same here. Buyers from Asia have billions and always offer the minimum... several times. They insist several days with the minimum bid even if you set the price.

I used to offer 4 or 5 extra tokens to the seller. But oce you get to 100M players, you lose a lot of cash for more than 3 tokens because it raises the value to 125, 130, 140M, etc. Not worth unless they are really superb.

> 19 years' old, no extra role, no SA = no token
< 20 years' old, no extra role, no SA = 1 token

> 19 years' old, 2 roles or 50pt SA = depends on stats
< 20 years' old, 2 roles or 50pt SA = 2 tokens

> 19 years' old, 2 roles and 50pt SA = depends on stats
< 20 years' old, 2 roles and 50pt SA = 3 to 5 tokens

> 19 years' old, 3 roles or 2 roles and 50pt SA = depends on stats
< 20 years' old, 3 roles or 2 roles and 50pt SA = 5 to 10 tokens

> 19 years' old, 3 roles and 50pt SA = depends on stats
19 years' old, 3 roles and 50pt SA = over 10 tokens
18 years' old, 3 roles and 50pt SA = worth the max 20 tokens