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cookizzz my free kick specialists 05-15-2015, 06:50 AM
Gert Funck mine looks like this, but I... 05-15-2015, 07:48 AM
cookizzz Do you mean I have to... 05-15-2015, 10:41 AM
Gert Funck First, I wouldn't focus on a... 05-15-2015, 10:58 AM
Buffs Mad iirc the devs, when pushed,... 05-15-2015, 11:30 AM
cookizzz I usually appoints the... 05-15-2015, 02:39 PM
Kaizer Franz the Uruguayan one will be... 05-15-2015, 10:34 PM
cookizzz The 3rd player Tejera is... 05-16-2015, 02:37 AM
David Grizzle If you have a good scorer at... 05-16-2015, 04:28 AM
cookizzz Thanks all for your opinions.... 05-16-2015, 06:51 AM
BridgeGoth FK ability I find rather... 05-16-2015, 04:43 AM
Kaizer Franz Sorry , it was late when i... 05-16-2015, 09:26 AM
cookizzz Sorry too that honestly I did... 05-16-2015, 10:48 AM
Buffs Mad The decision has to be on... 05-16-2015, 12:54 PM
David Grizzle I got a bit lucky I guess. My... 05-17-2015, 04:53 AM
Gabez Teh I know im at low level (4)... 05-17-2015, 10:31 AM
Hope Rugg Just on skills in general, i... 05-17-2015, 12:24 PM
cookizzz Test result is always the... 05-18-2015, 04:34 PM
Steppenwolf Well, corners have 3 sides...... 05-18-2015, 06:37 PM
Gabez Teh really? i have THREE... 05-19-2015, 05:34 AM
Steppenwolf You may have 10 aerial... 05-19-2015, 11:08 AM
Gert Funck My team has scored several... 05-18-2015, 07:20 PM
Buffs Mad I think the commentry used to... 05-18-2015, 08:38 PM
Steppenwolf True... Weak corner is slow... 05-18-2015, 08:55 PM
Bluebird Hewitt Agreed. Geolier (my DL corner... 05-18-2015, 08:55 PM
Bluebird Hewitt My main FK taker (Chikin) has... 05-17-2015, 03:07 PM
Steppenwolf Free kick, corner and penalty... 05-17-2015, 11:45 PM
Buffs Mad My no SA CK taker (left only)... 05-18-2015, 11:40 AM
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    my free kick specialists

    I wish someone giving me some advices on use of free kick specialists.

    My L22 team has 3 free kick specialists. None of them scored through free kick for my team in this season.

    The first one is a mid 4 star DR/DC. He was a decent free kicker in past 2 seasons. As his attacking qualities becoming far lower than others, I gradually assign less free kick duties to him. I used to concentrate training him on attacking. Now I have to add him defending skills. In this season, he suddenly emerged as a good & reliable DC. So he's still always a starter in the team but is not assigned on free kick.
    my free kick specialists-fk-die-skills.jpgmy free kick specialists-fk-die-stat.jpg


    The second one is mid 5 star MC. His attributes are quite even. He has good number of assists (7 in 11 matches) but I never notice him making one through free kick and he even have not yet score.
    my free kick specialists-fk-csaszar-skills.jpgmy free kick specialists-fk-csaszar-stat.jpg


    The third one is a new mid 5 star DC. His attribute is strange that attacking and physical/mental are slightly better than defending. So I am also adding him defending skills. He only played 2 official matches for the team. But through these matches and friendly matches, he also could not score through free kicks.
    my free kick specialists-fk-tejera-skills.jpgmy free kick specialists-fk-tejera-stat.jpg

    Generally, my teams always attract quite a lot of fouls and score a lot through free kicks. Recently, I wasted a lot of chances by these free kick specialists.

    I am not a fan of SA. I just brought these players by luck. I don't really trust them but will give them chances as other players. Generally, if I have front court players who have 5 or 6 higher qualities on attacking than the free kick specialists, I will prefer using the front court players.

    Kindly let me know if you have any opinion, thanks.
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    mine looks like this, but I also put a big burden on him.
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    You have to dedicate the skill assign process to the SA to optimize his performance. other wise he is just an ordinary player
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gert Funck View Post
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    You have to dedicate the skill assign process to the SA to optimize his performance. other wise he is just an ordinary player
    Do you mean I have to continuously assign skill points to attacking skills in order to make them effective?

    I shall not do so for defenders unless they have proved they are good free kick scorer, like the first player "Die" I mentioned above 3 season ago. This will just make their skills unbalance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookizzz View Post
    Do you mean I have to continuously assign skill points to attacking skills in order to make them effective?

    I shall not do so for defenders unless they have proved they are good free kick scorer, like the first player "Die" I mentioned above 3 season ago. This will just make their skills unbalance.

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    First, I wouldn't focus on a defender with SA freekick, you are not getting the best out of him. But on a midfielder or attacker i would assign more on attack yes. But he has to be the best ranking/skilled player for the SA to make sense (play key role)
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    iirc the devs, when pushed, said an SA makes a 1* difference to the relevant attributes when an SA event is triggered - but it was a long time ago so I can't swear to it.

    I'd interpret that to mean shooting is +5Q when shooting from a FK with SA; crossing......etc. How much impact 'not improving' the attacking skills has on the outcome will depend on how good he is at FKs naturally. A very good FK taker could survive quite a bit of lag, an average one not imo.

    How good a player is at FKs will not just be about this Q effect but also some sort of 'performance' issue too.

    The first question is always 'is he good at FKs?', if so, on average, you're going to need to at least maintain his attacking skills to maintain the performance. But its always possible to find someone who is so good at FKs that he'll be unaffected by attacking skill lag but I suspect thats rare.

    PS My original alt team had a DC with FK SA that banged them in for 2 seasons and his success was hardly affected by his lagging attacking skills. I'd guess he was just born to be a FK taker and was lucky to have been given the SA that's suits at 'birth'. Unfortunately although I have a screeny of some of his goal scoring I don't have one of his attributes. This is the type of latent ability that folks refer to as 'hidden'/'programming'/'Voodoo'
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    I usually appoints the players with top attacking attribute as free kickers. If any free kick specialists are within 5 quality points from the top attacking players, I will try them. Any players who can stay in the free kicker list are based on the free kick performance rather than their SA or quality. For bad form players who are in free kicker list, I will observe to their performance and take out them from free kicker list before or within a match.

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    the Uruguayan one will be your best MC and Free kick specialist i'm 99% sure

    But please , don't add defensive skill on him lol

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    The 3rd player Tejera is still new and will be given some more chances. But as a defender, his attributes are unusual (his defense is still slightly worse than the other 2 categories even if I have already added him a few defense skills). I do not prefer to add him much more attacking skills to help him fulfilling the role of free kicker. So I do not have much hope on him.

    The 1st player Die is too weak in attacking now. He will concentrate to play his role as DC as he excel on this now, and I will add him more defense skills. The 2nd player Csaszar have already been given many chances. I have given up and may probably only assign him as 3rd to 5th free kickers.

    I am never a fan of free kick specialists. It's so strange that I have 3 at the same time.

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    If you have a good scorer at an attacking position who has offensive skills that are 5 or more better than those 3 then I would try that player instead. The SA is not a be all end all and lacking it doesn't mean you can't be productive at it.

    If you have a choice you would want your FK specialist to be an attacking player. A CB is pretty much a waste IMO as you don't want to dedicate much to their offensive skills.

    Skill alone is never enough either. It is all about form and success on the pitch. Just like in reality you will have players who are talented on paper but are crap in games. You will have seemingly lesser talents who get consistent 7-8-9 ratings as well. Your ultimate goal is to get a combination of both at as many positions as possible.



    My FK specialist is a CM. I have a ST who is also a FK specialist but I gave it to the CM since he is also very good and it will allow him to get more offensive stats than would otherwise be possible. It helped me have six 20+ goal scorers last season. It also helps that he is either footed so equally deadly at all FK's.

    Without seeing your whole roster I can't give you complete advice. Best case is you have a very good ST who is either footed to try there. Or at least a good striker with high offensive skills and good form. AM's are good as well.
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    Thanks all for your opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by David Grizzle View Post
    If you have a good scorer at an attacking position who has offensive skills that are 5 or more better than those 3 then I would try that player instead. The SA is not a be all end all and lacking it doesn't mean you can't be productive at it.

    If you have a choice you would want your FK specialist to be an attacking player. A CB is pretty much a waste IMO as you don't want to dedicate much to their offensive skills.

    Skill alone is never enough either. It is all about form and success on the pitch. Just like in reality you will have players who are talented on paper but are crap in games. You will have seemingly lesser talents who get consistent 7-8-9 ratings as well. Your ultimate goal is to get a combination of both at as many positions as possible.


    My FK specialist is a CM. I have a ST who is also a FK specialist but I gave it to the CM since he is also very good and it will allow him to get more offensive stats than would otherwise be possible. It helped me have six 20+ goal scorers last season. It also helps that he is either footed so equally deadly at all FK's.

    Without seeing your whole roster I can't give you complete advice. Best case is you have a very good ST who is either footed to try there. Or at least a good striker with high offensive skills and good form. AM's are good as well.
    It's hard to bring the whole team for discussion. My team performs unexpectedly well in this season with 6 points leads in a league with opponents with similar qualities. It also leads the league in scoring. But it is strange that there is no outstanding scorer in this team.

    Among my 4 strikers, there are 1, 1 and 2 using either, left and right foot respectively. My most trusted striker is low 5 star and use both feet. But most of his match ratings are just 7. He also seems not good at free kicks. The striker with best rating is higher than 4 star and right foot. His average ratings is close to 8 but he has more assists than goals in this season. I think I will use this player more from now on and try to use him as free kicker.

    I have not yet identified the most reliable free kicker in this season. That's why I am still considering those FK specialists. My FK specialists are either slow or average trainers. If they cannot break into the list of FK specialist, they will unlikely break into it in subsequent seasons.


    Quote Originally Posted by BridgeGoth View Post
    FK ability I find rather useless on a defensive player.
    I much prefer it on a striker, or an AM if I use them. I could live with it on a midfielder, I however have never had to worry about it since the best 2 players I've ever had were strikers which came with FK ability. Both of them scored an insane amount of goals.
    The first player "Die" was a pretty good free kicker two season ago. So I used him on this and assigned him some attacking skills up to a point that all 3 types of attributes are close. In last season, he gradually lowered down in the list of my free kickers and I assign him defensive skills. Now in season 3, as 4 star player, he become my best pure defender.

    I think that even if the FK specialist is a defender, he should give a chance to try. If he's good, I will assign some attracting skills to support him. I am never sure how to manipulate skill development to shape the player into a good one.

    In general, I usually avoid to involve in bidding wars for players with SA. So I don't choose positions for FK specialists. All my players with SA are acquired with at most 3 tokens.
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