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I have a fasttrainer wich has gained scout level
For a long time I haven't seen players at that level gain as much as him.
Oh you wise managers, what gain have you achieved on scout level?:o
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I have not arranged many high intensity practice matches for players after reaching 6 star levels. In my limited records, two players gained around +90 in this situation.
Edit: To be more specific, one player gained +95 at age 19 and another gained +98 at age 20. No other 6 star player gained more than 90 through high intensity practice match in my 2 season record.
Yeah that's an amazing gain, Gert. :D None of mine get so much, closer to 70 or 80.
I guess I will keep training him, until he drops in progress :o:cool:
If they are consistently high then dance while the sun shines :D
My benchmark fast trainer had a high of 107 but that was a rarity - he averaged 89 at 6*.
There appears to have been a change today - look at your FK and fouls in match reports - so maybe this was an additional "incentivise the green pack frenzy" change. ;) Or just a T11 code-fart
gain seems consistent :o he also performs well
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from training today, added to first post as well.
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For now he is just 5 stars,but I will let you know if he beats your record as a scout
Looking forwards to it :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Crister
Mine got up to 170+/- before he leveled up
I only have one 6* fast trainer, he's topped off at +93!
I do have a 5* fast trainer, but I doubt he'll be training faster than my other one. I was power-training him towards 6* to check but it turns out he's made of glass :(
Lucky SOB! :D
I've got a +200% increase in hard practice match before, that one also had 200% gain in a no-overtime match without getting the MOM at one time.
Fast trainer with high pitch time and low level of training can jack up his progress factor to really ridiculous levels, but his form will suffer.
I have no record on this. But I believe that my 3 or 4 star academy players could gain about 200% when they were still in low star. But their training efficiency should drop a lot when reaching scout level.
I just check my record in more detail and notice that a 20 years old highest 4 star GK gained average 142.7 (131, 164 & 133) through high intensity practice match before just he was sold.
I'm fairly new to this game, so haven't really seen a fast trainer before.
He gained more than 1 skillpoint from 1 training? What do you consider 1 training? Is that a practice match? Or all 3 (stretch, cardio and practice match) combined?
This is the highest I can find for a 6* from when I recorded this stuff for a short period. Nothing near your consistency if it keeps up ;)
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Why do you still use hard intensity, training cooldown is set to 5 seconds now... High intensity is increasing injury chances...
That has no adverse effect as long as the increase in chance is proportional to the condition used. The increase in chance of higher intensity is balanced by the higher of opportunity for injury at lower intensity, imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steppenwolf
Balance is unknown word in Nordeus... How many injuries your players get during a single season, while using hard intensity training?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffs Mad
Balance is an unknown word in the world of internet discussions too. ;) But I used in in the context of probability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steppenwolf
No idea on the number of injuries. I don't record training injuries.
I did do a large number (though not highly significant) of training repetitions on hard intensity MP on an alt team player to take him from 3* to 5* - I used over 80 packs, he got injured on his second training and remained uninjured thereafter. But that doesn't mean anything.
I assume that the chance of injury at higher intensity doubles. We conduct training to use condition (to gain sp). If we, in a season, were to train a large number of players to use 18 billion% of condition I'd assume the number of actual injuries will tend towards the actual probability. 1 billion repetitions at Hard MP or 2 billion at Normal MP - as long as the assumption of double the chance held true, both training schedules would tend towards the same number of injuries. Double the chance, half the repetitions, balance.
What do you suggest is the relative injury rates for each training?
But this is way OT and I was trying so hart to stay on it. >.<
Sorry but I don't bellive you, there is no way a scout ranking player will gain that, field time or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amane Ito
If you indeed have this player please share printscreans proving 200+ gains, because I would very much like to se that:confused:
I think Amane isn't talking about a 6* player, so yes, a 4* fast academy player can get a +200.Quote:
Sorry but I don't bellive you, there is no way a scout ranking player will gain that, field time or not.
If you indeed have this player please share printscreans proving 200+ gains
gaining is a fix value, so there are not tricks or mumbo jumbo things, to increase the training ability :(Quote:
Fast trainer with high pitch time and low level of training can jack up his progress factor to really ridiculous levels, but his form will suffer.
Form also, has nothing to do with training. The only relation I 've noticed so far (and I do a lot of training :p) is
- a player out of form (and low morale) has bigger % to get an injury in training than the others
- a player who got power-train one day, is "carrying his fatigue" later in the game, so it's more possible not to perform or to get an injury.
So, when I power-train a player, even if he doesn't injure during this, I 'm not using him in a match that day.
it's the same thing. If you go for the desirable sp gaining (depending from you green boosters of course), either you 'll set 3bars/practice or more 2bars/practice, but in this case, you hit more times the button, which increases the % of getting an injury.Quote:
Why do you still use hard intensity, training cooldown is set to 5 seconds now... High intensity is increasing injury chances...
IMO and based on experience, since the 5 second update, there is not any bigger risk of injury using 3 bars than only using two. So in that logic of course I use three bars when powertrainingQuote:
Originally Posted by Steppenwolf
Update:
It went so fast, so he has already leveled up again (worldclass)
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His gains has reduced to 60+/- which IMO still is very good
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I thought you would put him in nego list
lol
HAHA... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
No now he gets a deserved rest on the bench, and hopefully he will keep shining:cool:
I totally agree with that, be really careful not to put power trained guys in the next match.. even the next day their chances of injury are higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
