Need an advise

I need an advise about the team building

I always buy the highest price player for my team. All age from 18 - 22 year old. And all five star, at mid of season, all player can up 6 star. But I always lose in some match with weaker team (weaker 2 - 3 star).

If mod read this Thread,you can check my acc for more info.

About Formation, I choose 4-4-2 classic, 4-5-1 V style, 4-1-2-1-2 narrow diamond... and sometimes use different formation but still lose....

2 Last season, my team is strongest in League, online to play usually but end in rank 5. Can not play champion league next season.

Why?, who can give me an advise to play. Stronger for what purpose, but best player for what purpose.....

Having a higher quality set of players does not mean you are the better one. The game is a combination of players, tactics and formation. Also a bit of luck from the result generator. Having a 5 star player does not mean tht player will score in every game, or block every shot.

At this point you can jst browse the forum and find the answers you are looking for. There is no black and white (straightforward answer). Do some homework by reading the various posts in this forum. You may want to replicate some tactics used by the more senior players here in the team showcase forum.

The problem may not lie on your players, but your team orders and preferred tactics.

For example, I tanked the last season just by naming an inappropriate player as captain and switch team mentality to attack (while my special formation can only work well in defensive or normal mentalities). This result in bad form (3~6) produced for all MCs and ST without anyone placed out of position.
This season I name the appropriate one as captain and mentality as defensive, and all those players returned their form to 7~8 including the MCs, without replacing anyone on the field.

It is hard to determine which tactic work best with your team as players themselves have preferences (some like attack better and some like defend better), so the optimal setup for your team could only be found through trial and error.

To add to that and this might not be important at all but my MC got a 5 in his first match so i i decided to move him from right to left of midfield since he is right footed.
He scores goals now and gets good ratings.

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.

Dont think you need to browse for answers, the above pretty much helps all aspects ;) Nice guys

Oh another important tip - IDENTIFY your set piece takers quickly. A successful freekick/corner could be the difference between a draw and a win.

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Originally Posted by Amane Ito

The problem may not lie on your players, but your team orders and preferred tactics.

For example, I tanked the last season just by naming an inappropriate player as captain and switch team mentality to attack (while my special formation can only work well in defensive or normal mentalities). This result in bad form (3~6) produced for all MCs and ST without anyone placed out of position.
This season I name the appropriate one as captain and mentality as defensive, and all those players returned their form to 7~8 including the MCs, without replacing anyone on the field.

It is hard to determine which tactic work best with your team as players themselves have preferences (some like attack better and some like defend better), so the optimal setup for your team could only be found through trial and error.

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How did you know which player is appropriate for captain?

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Originally Posted by Tactician

How did you know which player is appropriate for captain?

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The captain role is not programmed into the game engine, so it does not matter who you select

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Originally Posted by Gert Funck

The captain role is not programmed into the game engine, so it does not matter who you select

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Is this confirmed (because last season I did notice a player whose performance was affected when I put him as captain)?

This is not a game of maths, in what +Q = victory.

This is a game created to have managers doing this work, ass a manager, so, to manage.
One thing is the visual Quality, and another is the internal Quality, with % of effectiveness. Your work as manager as I always say is to manage.
That mean to test players, and decide despite the value and stars they have if is worth to keep these.

We have the same dilema every week. Seems that ppl want simply, take a look at the better team of the league, buy players to have a team +0,1 of quality that the better team, and recive a trophy.

I will try to confirm via mods if captain have a influence. I belive that, as all in this game, all affect a little bit, and one day one factor affect more, next day another factor is decisive, and so. Then I belive that yes, or I want to belive.

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Originally Posted by khris

This is not a game of maths, in what +Q = victory.

This is a game created to have managers doing this work, ass a manager, so, to manage.
One thing is the visual Quality, and another is the internal Quality, with % of effectiveness. Your work as manager as I always say is to manage.
That mean to test players, and decide despite the value and stars they have if is worth to keep these.

We have the same dilema every week. Seems that ppl want simply, take a look at the better team of the league, buy players to have a team +0,1 of quality that the better team, and recive a trophy.

I will try to confirm via mods if captain have a influence. I belive that, as all in this game, all affect a little bit, and one day one factor affect more, next day another factor is decisive, and so. Then I belive that yes, or I want to belive.

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There are many things in this game, that could be, and I would like too bellive :rolleyes:

on the good side, there is very much space/possibilities for improvement :o

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Originally Posted by khris

This is not a game of maths, in what +Q = victory.

This is a game created to have managers doing this work, ass a manager, so, to manage.
One thing is the visual Quality, and another is the internal Quality, with % of effectiveness. Your work as manager as I always say is to manage.
That mean to test players, and decide despite the value and stars they have if is worth to keep these.

We have the same dilema every week. Seems that ppl want simply, take a look at the better team of the league, buy players to have a team +0,1 of quality that the better team, and recive a trophy.

I will try to confirm via mods if captain have a influence. I belive that, as all in this game, all affect a little bit, and one day one factor affect more, next day another factor is decisive, and so. Then I belive that yes, or I want to belive.

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How about the squad number; does it have an influence on the player's performance? I know that this should not be the case, but I have seen a post where a user changed the squad number of his striker, and the player had a decrease in performance; the funny thing is that he changed the number from 1 to 9.

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Originally Posted by Tactician

How about the squad number; does it have an influence on the player's performance? I know that this should not be the case, but I have seen a post where a user changed the squad number of his striker, and the player had a decrease in performance; the funny thing is that he changed the number from 1 to 9.

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The following opponents are more likely too be the explanation :rolleyes:

I never noticed changes in player's performance after change a number ...LOL....
The captain, dev's said that is just a visual thing, so... here the answer.

Then by my viewpoint, and as mentioned many times this game have a amount of little things,and is like everyhing affect a litle bit.
Is like a 10%, 10% 10%,,,, (I remember a recent post of % of victory factors started by me LOL) and if one do a good job testing, and one have a good eye to see what fail in the team, then, the succes appear.
Too I will repeat as usual that 1 player can win the 70% of a title. Experienced managers know this, and is good to have this idea writted in the front.
LOL
6th sense mate.

Captain has great influence, in fact it has the greatest influence to average player performance (of the whole team) as I found in all options available in the tactics menu.

It is easy enough to test, but to do that test you need to keep a full team of 7+ rating at all times, that itself is impossible to achieve without naming the appropriate captain in the first place.

Observation on captaincy

1. Player : No armband - 8-7-8-8-9 etc. With armband - 6-6-7-5-6.
2. Team : Captain Fantastic - W-W-W-D-W. Captain Dud - D-L-W-L-L

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Originally Posted by Qambu Yaasi

Observation on captaincy

1. Player : No armband - 8-7-8-8-9 etc. With armband - 6-6-7-5-6.
2. Team : Captain Fantastic - W-W-W-D-W. Captain Dud - D-L-W-L-L

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What was the approximate number of appearances for the club, age, quality and position for the players for the above cases?

I have observed a decrease in performance of a player too when he was made captain.

See if you dont set captain, pen taker, free kick taker does it not just set the player best to do the job as it? Ive never set a player as captain n very seldom free kick. Pen taker.

Think captaincy is just a visual thing (like nationality, squad number)

I would say that contract has an effect though, players that i have on one year contract seem to lose morale all the time and play alot worse

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Originally Posted by Tactician

What was the approximate number of appearances for the club, age, quality and position for the players for the above cases?

I observed a decrease in performance of a player too when he was made captain.

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Appearance, age, Q does not seem to have any significant impact in my case. I've experimented with numerous combinations.

The decrease in performance is only for those who did not fit the role of captain, while someone who did will see an increase in performance and the team overall.

My captains has always been defenders or GKs.

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Originally Posted by Christopher Herd

See if you dont set captain, pen taker, free kick taker does it not just set the player best to do the job as it? Ive never set a player as captain n very seldom free kick. Pen taker.

Think captaincy is just a visual thing (like nationality, squad number)

I would say that contract has an effect though, players that i have on one year contract seem to lose morale all the time and play alot worse

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Not setting a setpiece taker is a big mistake. It does not take the best taker when it is unassigned. It is random. I've seen ridiculous takers. I've done that and for a long stretch I did not get a goal from a freekick or corners. I am a believer that setpiece takers is the difference between a point and three. I am willing gamble with my pen taker but not freekicks and corner takers.

As far as contract goes tht is visual to me as I have prematurely renewed contracts of players who lose morale fast and they still do not perform. Like someone mention, captaincy probably has 5-10% impact only. Could or could not be significant depending on your overall team form.

Set pieces: it can work the other way too. Having a guy who is poor at CKs taking the CKs can have a spiralling effect or performance.

A big mistake by a player or several small mistakes can have a cumulative negative effect on future performance.

I do seem to get quite a few PKs and therefore they are a source of a few goals but the impact of a PK miss on my striker is too great to risk so, since my GK is least active player this season he takes the PKs (and scored his first from his first yesterday).

Captain: I usually set my 'best' player as Captain. If he stopped being best player or performance went down I'd change.

General principle: if you set a player to fill a role and performance decreases then set another.

Who can help me. How to adjust to have better team?
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You got trolled twice by the looks of it, Redsea. Way better scores, higher quality and still loose. Have you got arrows on in your setup? Otherwise I would give the mc's and the strikers all red arrows, so they are more agressive. Not much wrong with the team.

Redsea Ha, was there any construction going on during those unconvincing results?

Tactician, your mean is team construction or stadium construction?
About team building, in beginning of season, I try to looking for the highest player to buy. All player have price more than normal player. After half of seasion, I stop buy player and concentrate to training them up to 6 stars and sell old player at the end of season.
About stadium construction, I am building everything, no stop any day from level 1 to level 11. And this is my stadium
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Anything else?

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Tactician, your mean is team construction or stadium construction?
About team building, in beginning of season, I try to looking for the highest player to buy. All player have price more than normal player. After half of seasion, I stop buy player and concentrate to training them up to 6 stars and sell old player at the end of season.
About stadium construction, I am building everything, no stop any day from level 1 to level 11. And this is my stadium
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Anything else?

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Try to observe for any relation with ongoing constructions and poor performance. Some users have said that it is just a coincidence, but I still have doubts.

I have set a list for the possible causes of a series of poor or unconvincing performances based on what I have observed.

The list so far is as follows.
1. ongoing constructions
2. teams have been programmed to play well with only some particular types of formations
3. wrong orders
4 Nordeus using bad methods
5. other bugs in the game

Your orders looks a bit inappropriate. 4-4-2 is not a defensive formation; usually it should be played with a normal or attacking mentality.
Marking should be zonal except for rare cases where a man-to-man marking may be better.

hey @Redsea Ha
Why you're showing us your team (the first pictures) with 2 DC and then you're playing your games with only one DC :confused:
(playing and loosing in 3 games vs more opponent STs)

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

hey @Redsea Ha
Why you're showing us your team (the first pictures) with 2 DC and then you're playing your games with only one DC :confused:
(playing and loosing in 3 games vs more opponent STs)

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Playing with an inappropriate number of central defenders could be an explanation too.

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

hey @Redsea Ha
Why you're showing us your team (the first pictures) with 2 DC and then you're playing your games with only one DC :confused:
(playing and loosing in 3 games vs more opponent STs)

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Because in some first days, i can not find out 1 DC with high rank. Yesterday I buy 1 DC and put in and I lose for League today with 4-4-2 std formation. 4 match all lose make me disappointed and I doubt there are some mistakes in my playing. So I make this topic to have more advise to improve.

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Originally Posted by Tactician

Playing with an inappropriate number of central defenders could be an explanation too.

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Can not be, because two last season, I always use DL DC DC DR and 1 DMC for defense and have some crazy match. Lose with some teams in bottom of rank table.