This special skills worth it to train? Or should i concern in having players with 5 and 6 stars?
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This special skills worth it to train? Or should i concern in having players with 5 and 6 stars?
Usually, stars first, then special ability. If you want some special abilities in your team, then purchase players that already have one.
Free-kick and corner specialists are helpful.
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This is my top eleven, so its better to invest in more players with 5 stars and put the players with 4 stars with habilities to the bench?
Sa first and then stars if you want them as training speeds will slow if you do it the other way
I meant priority should be given to players having higher quality rating (in case you have misunderstood).
For e.g, consider 2 players A and B in the transfer market.
Player A: 4 star with special ability
Player B: 5 star without special ability
Usually, Player B should be given preference.
Consider another player, C, which is 4 stars. Training him to 5 stars should be given priority rather than giving him a special ability and let his quality to 4 stars. If the user can afford both, then he should train for the special ability first.
I would also like to add the following.
I advise you not to train many players to gain a star, especially if they are in the lower 4 star region. This will be too expensive (unless you have a lot of money to spend, or you can get enough tokens from offers). You can train the best performers (both in terms of training and performance on the pitch), but don't go beyond 3 or 4 players. If you want better players, sell some of your current players and buy better quality players from the market.
Tactician you got my point, 5 stars or 4 with sa.
Thanks for the help
But, does training an SA have any effect on a player's performance? I mean that, is a trained FK specialist actually scoring and a Corner specialist assisting? So far my real Free-kick and Corner specialists didn't and don't have an SA. On the other hand the market is full of such specialists with no goals or assists in their career. The only ones that i usually consider real specialists are the ones that have an SA from the beginning ( nordgens and scout players).
I'm not a guru, just my opinion which of course can always be wrong.
Personally i'm going for the stars or sometimes for a second position.
I know several has tested the effect of SA, including myself, There doesn't seem to be a significant positive difference with SA. That is also why I always advice to go for star. T11 has also said in their guide to SA that a six star player still will perform better than a five star with SA. IMO this makes it ludacris to wast green and tokens to train SA.
There is the possibility of hidden things. I have said that quite a few times: there may be a percentage efficiency regulator. This may act either on the whole team or on a particular player.
My free-kick specialist and corner specialist did make a difference last season. That is, they had a relatively higher percentage success at their specialty role compared to other players that were poor to average when given the opportunity to take the role.
Not all specialist have a high percentage success at their role; some are average, but they are still better than non-specialist.
Only train an SA on a player that, in your opinion, is already half-decent in that ability.
If a player is not that good at CKs then imo don't train CK specialist on him. Giving SAs doesn't mean sprinkling fairy dust on the player.
As with all things, be it Q or Role or SA, don't try to polish a turd. ;)
PS. My MC without CK is much better at CKs than my MC with CK.
My point of view is most teams should have a Corner Specialist and a Free-Kick specialist. These guys makes a lot of difference. Especially Corner specialist that helped out to win the League with really high number of assists.
Last season I had 2 Corner Specialists and only 1 of them really made the difference. But the funny thing is, I play both of the frequently almost in every match. But the one that is really not so good in corners level up with a star while the other good specialist stays the same. Both are on equal quality and the one who is not that good leveled up first and scored a lot of goals.
As for free kick specialists, I have had one in every season except for season 4. I do feel there is a lot of difference with higher percentage of the goal going in is better. On season 2 and season 3 I kept 1 player for 2 seasons for his free kick ability. Let's just say out of 10 tries, he will score at least 8 of them and assisted a lot more that season.
Other free kick specialists such as Shadow striker, aerial defender, dribbler, 1 on 1 stopper and penalty specialists are mostly useless in the game. I have had all of those and they make not much difference. 1-on-1 stopper works and aerial defender sometimes works. The word is sometimes.
As for training for SA, so far in my 6 season experience, I don't recommend it. Because they would split the experience that they learn during the game. You are better off buying those who already have the ability. Usually look for those who are a bit more costly, the price makes a difference in my point of view.
I am only 6 season in, just sharing what I learn about the game I am addicted to.... Don't flame me...
I am wondering for a long time about this. There is no evidence at all for anything. No underlying numbers that can tell us otherwise. It is all smoke and mirrors about all. Is SA only there to waste green packs? Does it do anything? Are stars better?
2 days ago I had some energy to spare with my main team (lvl15) and I put them up against my lvl 1 team. My lvl 15 team is full of SA like one on one stopper, FK, CK, one on one attacker, header, defensive wall etc. The quality is only 14 STARS!!! higher. I played the game and the score was 3-0! Yes 3-0 only. My main team got only 8 shots at goal with agressive stance. I mean come on. Do stars really matter anymore? 14 levels higher and 3-0? I will test this later again. If I get the same results again, then I am really start to think that we are playing a prank.
ok good then I won`t train my 6* players for SA but instead train them to become 7 stars...
Friendlies are nerfed/balanced. Best I can come up with is that the Q gap is limited somewhere around 5 or 10Q. There is little difference between playing a team 50Q lower and 1 10q down or one 10Q above you compared to one 50Q higher. The bigger results either way are normally due to abandoned teams or other imbalanced factors.
That would explain a lot Buffs. Thx for the explanation.
Mourinho cheats.
Ofc I was also trying to avoid a wall of text but one of the strange things about playing really high Q teams is that their defenders and strikers sometimes have that little bit extra and are more efficient. Mourinho cheats that way I think and his CK and FK guys usually take the pish.
But it also seems some Managers know better what makes Mourinho tick (unlike me) and can deal with him better.
I just tested your statement with my own two teams, and you seem to be spot on. This match up should be a total walk in the park and not the result. My reserves got the bully achievement, way to go I am so proud
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so in that sense friendlies isn't worth much.
I agree with Tactician, that it seems as if Mourinho players has special skills, their scoring rate is way above their skill level and their agression abilty to cause injury is scaring :( (that's why I unfriended him)
If I do friendlies I've long since stopped looking at the score. I'm only interested in the flow of the game (in as much as I can tell). Limited value admittedly.
I had one friend who was having difficulties a long time ago and although he was a much higher level, repeated friendlies were useful to try to get things working right. Score didn't matter and was sometimes 9-0 or 2-1 (but I always lost) but he did get a new way of playing working. PS. I could get lots of shots and attacks but ultimately we were repelled.
I still swear by defensive SA's and the FK, CK, playmaker and dribbler. All have their place on certain players. My CK taker leads my club in assists-career and my FK taker led league in goals last season with over half of his league goals from FKs. They are more important than 3pts of quality imo.
I started early, in my lv2-3 to hunt or to give my players special abilities and usually my team is like this
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Did I notice my team playing a lot better with those sa ?
I 'm not sure. Then why I did that ? Because I could and I like that. It's a fun part of the game.
As like friends supporting/ball possession. I don't know if and how affects the match process but it's nice and surely affects the psychology of the opponent.
But if I "had" to declare, I would say it's like Emperor's new clothes :rolleyes:
If I distribute 100 skills points to his attributes instead of the extra position and the special ability, he will probably be an 8 star player in the final week of this season. But then, I may switch him to playing in the centre area as I think extra quality in the centre is more helpful than on the sides for defense.
So, 8 stars or 6 stars, special ability and extra position; dilemma.
when I decide to add a sa or an extra position, I gave my sp immediately to this, so to keep player's q low. Gathered sp do count to player's quality and this is slowing down the gaining progress.Quote:
If I distribute 100 skills points to his attributes instead of the extra position and the special ability, he will probably be an 8 star player
DL/DC/DR yes
AML/AMC/AMR yes but not sure because I use AMC rarely. Prefer to play with wingers.
DC/DMC/MC not always
TOSTAO (he is in the posted board) MC/AMC/ST was just average to everything - lol
DML/ML/AML don't know, don't use DML/DMR
MC/ML/MR not for me, but I used it many seasons before. Don't know with the new ratting system.
I have a DML/ML/AML with S.A (bought from the transfer market, but he could have originated from the scouts' list). He is very useful as a utility player, but he seems to be more efficient as AML.
I have an AML/AMC/AMR. He played all these positions very well, but better on the wings. He did well as ST too, but this can't be confirmed as he was used there only twice so far.
I have a DMC I trained MC on (after few games playing as MC) he performs equally well in both. Once he played AMC and scored but that was a one-off.
I've had 2 ex-Scout market triple role left wingers with SS SA who were great goalscorers, just not much good as DML.
Never had a wide player with 3 vertical roles that could play all 3 but no doubt they exist, somewhere, I just don't have the need anyway and my sp distribution probably wouldn't help up to 7*. ;)
Alt teams have triple horizontal role AMs that perform well.
I always say if the roles are compatible they're more likely to work similarly.
I have done both but my current one I trained. He was 18 years, either footed DC/DMC when i got him. I've bought MCs with playmaker but they were yellow card magnets. I find that SA's help negotiation resale even if I sacrifice a bit of quality. They will get a few more cards than average but they seem to make more plays on the ball both offensively and defensively.