Bring Back the Old League Draw System

Because the CL now is destroyed if you put teams by quality, and you have to see how you are in a +1 level CL, wih a amount of 1*-2* teams that obtained a passport for this competition without logic.

Ive seen just now the league draws and again, full 5*, some 6* and maybe 1 of 4*....

The last thing that need a competition like the League is put groups of good teams, Ive talked many times of ma opinion after I did the OMA Leagues. The worst you can do when you have 10,12 or 14 actives and with options to a title is to do like the song said... an "all together now".

1st because don't haave logic and the teams that have Q.'s of lower stars have access to CL.

So is irreal because in any real league you see more than 3-4-5 or maybe 6 teams that are really better in terms of quality in a league of 20.

And 3rd, because is tireful, have hard matches, all hard matches, when some times we maybe can not play, when we know that against 2* teams the "troll results" exists so, is tireful, when the CL is +1 level and the Cup +4/5 every season so, with a market advantadge for others, and now you have to deal with a league calendar that have no days of rest, with lower teams that can give you some rest during season.

As a player I have to say that is a bad model to manage the teams, and to do something logic, fair and reasonable.
That's why I open this thread, I've been part of Top Eleven for near 3 years with Bayern, I've played in 2011 during season 17-18, and we've suggested changes that the 3 competitions need to do things more fair, and too, changes of model, to do not have a repetitive game, maybe creating targets or so, but, focus it in different way.
Here just I, would like for a different League draw system, just to start.

I agree.

This really hurts both players and Nordeus alike, and this MUST be fixed.

Seriously funny..the league this time is too scary...my league included 5 double champions..included myself...8 champions for last season leagues...even 3 won the cup...

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Originally Posted by Brian Dang

Seriously funny..the league this time is too scary...my league included 5 double champions..included myself...8 champions for last season leagues...even 3 won the cup...

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I know your feeling.

Anyway, let's make this one as viral as possible. Remember how Siddharth makes the difference in removing the new market.

tomorrow, i am going to match the team i face in last CL group -.- draw the same team in my group...and also meet in first game =.=
btw, right now the sub system also has problem.... i just made one sub...and wanna to made another one... the system to me "too many sub"!!!
i wanna to made a sub to change the formation and i can't because of this!!!

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Originally Posted by khris

Because the CL now is destroyed if you put teams by quality, and you have to see how you are in a +1 level CL, wih a amount of 1*-2* teams that obtained a passport for this competition without logic.

Ive seen just now the league draws and again, full 5*, some 6* and maybe 1 of 4*....

The last thing that need a competition like the League is put groups of good teams, Ive talked many times of ma opinion after I did the OMA Leagues. The worst you can do when you have 10,12 or 14 actives and with options to a title is to do like the song said... an "all together now".

1st because don't haave logic and the teams that have Q.'s of lower stars have access to CL.

So is irreal because in any real league you see more than 3-4-5 or maybe 6 teams that are really better in terms of quality in a league of 20.

And 3rd, because is tireful, have hard matches, all hard matches, when some times we maybe can not play, when we know that against 2* teams the "troll results" exists so, is tireful, when the CL is +1 level and the Cup +4/5 every season so, with a market advantadge for others, and now you have to deal with a league calendar that have no days of rest, with lower teams that can give you some rest during season.

As a player I have to say that is a bad model to manage the teams, and to do something logic, fair and reasonable.
That's why I open this thread, I've been part of Top Eleven for near 3 years with Bayern, I've played in 2011 during season 17-18, and we've suggested changes that the 3 competitions need to do things more fair, and too, changes of model, to do not have a repetitive game, maybe creating targets or so, but, focus it in different way.
Here just I, would like for a different League draw system, just to start.

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saints words...i've same league..too difficult all teams have 6-7 stars players ,there is not a team with 1 player 4 stars...champions league there 33 level teams and i'm 32.. i want randon draw come on...
to complete champions and league use 1 or 2 computer team but change something please!! i know all my opposites ,there are always the same teams...boring

Personally, I don't see what the issue is...

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Personally, I don't see what the issue is...

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Think about a league of the best teams from the "Big Five" countries: England, France, Germany, Italy and Spain playing together in one league.

The purpose of this change I believe also be coz Profit-oriented..

Now they think about the other way to make money from all managers/players..becoz most of us now get used to with our success so if we do not finish top 4 or something like winning championships..we will eager to invest more tokens/packs meant REAL CASH INVOLVED...

They are very smart when put all champions at the same table or the top 4 in league enter next year CL with higher level...so money money money..thats main purpose that TOP 11 wanna lead us to...

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The purpose of this change I believe also be coz Profit-oriented..

Now they think about the other way to make money from all managers/players..becoz most of us now get used to with our success so if we do not finish top 4 or something like winning championships..we will eager to invest more tokens/packs meant REAL CASH INVOLVED...

They are very smart when put all champions at the same table or the top 4 in league enter next year CL with higher level...so money money money..thats main purpose that TOP 11 wanna lead us to...

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A more simple phrase...PAY TO WIN!!!

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Originally Posted by pnr8555

A more simple phrase...PAY TO WIN!!!

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But that is what many people say... go against the logic, if you put 10 or 14 players that can pay to win 4 will finish in top 4 and 10 will feel like they lost a season... I believe in a system that, if have to have competitions full of actives, or are another type of competitions, or are for example doing of the CL the most hard competition by doing leagues with 4-5-6 actives max. that can be strong and create CL's really of a high Quality... not CL's that have league winners of 1-2* because inactive abandoned teams are in the same league group and somebody have to win despite have a amount of 1-2-3* max.

Well, we've talked about that.... the system goes really against the target, if the target is make players pay to win...

LOLO

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But that is what many people say... go against the logic, if you put 10 or 14 players that can pay to win 4 will finish in top 4 and 10 will feel like they lost a season... I believe in a system that, if have to have competitions full of actives, or are another type of competitions, or are for example doing of the CL the most hard competition by doing leagues with 4-5-6 actives max. that can be strong and create CL's really of a high Quality... not CL's that have league winners of 1-2* because inactive abandoned teams are in the same league group and somebody have to win despite have a amount of 1-2-3* max.

Well, we've talked about that.... the system goes really against the target, if the target is make players pay to win...

LOLO

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It's more like a betting website to win pixels of images on the screen.

Hope Nordeus red this post !

Please Nordeus bring back old league draw system cause you will lost many players in the next month believe me !

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Hope Nordeus red this post !

Please Nordeus bring back old league draw system cause you will lost many players in the next month believe me !

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The forum played large role in removing the "new transfer market" (only small portions of the market with limited 5* players are shown) last year, so we can hope that this will happen again and the new league draw system will be gone with the community's support.

As I started a post about the new league draw, before 4-5 seasons, I keep watching how it's going on and I can assure that's not the 14 squad quality that counts (as the Cup). It's a mix of team quality, activity of the managers (buying/earning sources, using them to build the team, watching the games) and making a guess, maybe it's also this fb app Bragbook , the ranking of the managers in top eleven.
I also noticed two more changes in the game, which started about the same period.
One is the bad performing of the STs and the other is great performances of GKs. It's very common to see a GK that have 5-6 saves in a game.
It's like they wanted to make the game more unpredictable (someone is a fan of Premier League :rolleyes: ).
As Khris mentioned before, this is not a "pay to win" trick because this way semi-abandoned or non-active managers promote by this system.
It's not that they don't have the ability to have some competitive team or some hopes for have some success. I also playing with a 35T team and without extra sources I manage to keep a 4-5* players team every season and be competitive.
So, those players chose to play that way and they 'll never be "customers" of nordeus.
Active managers who are paying or using sources or they are active, get punished with the new system because even if they have 6* teams, they cannot win a trophy or they are in danger not even to promote in the next league.
So, what they 're doing ?
Leave the game, stop spending or tanking.
As I do this season with my first team. I want to be competitive and go for the title. I did it the previous seasons but it was to tired, I 'm out of sources and it's boring to play continually against 5-6* teams.
So, this (and maybe the next season too), I 'm tanking, without spending anything.
So, why nordeus is earning by this ?
The old players and forum members know that nordeus isn't very quick in reaction, so we 'll have to wait for some period till they realize that they 're loosing money and customers.

Totally agree. This should be fixed. I have about 15 good active managers playing at my level, which is 35 and top of the server and we are almost all drawn together in the same league. This is more like Champions league but unlike any football league in the world

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Totally agree. This should be fixed. I have about 15 good active managers playing at my level, which is 35 and top of the server and we are almost all drawn together in the same league. This is more like Champions league but unlike any football league in the world

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There are no such breathing space as well, or even matches where teams can be rotated. Nordeus may earn money from PACKS or something like that as well too.

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There are no such breathing space as well, or even matches where teams can be rotated. Nordeus may earn money from PACKS or something like that as well too.

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Every game is like a CL final

First, I agree purpose of this post - bringing back old league system.

Second, I agree that changes in league drawing aims for earning more. This is reasonable for profit making business. But it is important to make the game fair. Grouping managers who are eager to pay in order to stimulate they pay even more is not proper. They have right to make changes to earn more e.g. charging service charges on anything like tactic changes, ticket price changes, etc. These are at least fair.

Third, I suggest managers who want to win do not try to win through paying more and more in each season. If you pay more and more every season, you will be grouped with stronger opponents until you reach the highest quality league in that level. In contrast, if you maintain similar relative team quality in each season, you will not suddenly group with stronger teams. Usually the opponents will have similar relative quality.