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    Angry I dont understand this game and i am angry!!!

    Hello everyone ,
    i dont understand this game , i buy tokens , i train my players alot , hiring a scout trainer , putting the bonus during the game and only 0-0 againts the last place (14th)
    this things put you off , you just want to quit playing this game
    i buy every season 1000 tokens and cant even finished first...
    and the guy who is in the last place , doesnt watch his games , probably with no moral , and he can finished 0-0???!
    i suggest to who it may concern , please fix your engine , guy who doesnt watch his games for at least 5 times he will get penalty (such as at least 2 goals againts him...)
    i feel like ive been cheated by top11
    my team is better than anybody in my league and it cant win the guy who is in the last place???
    either you gonna fix this engine thingo , or more and more people and fans will leave you guys , i am that close to leave this game after 4 consecutive years and paying alot...
    please take it to your consideration .
    i got some advices for you.
    1 guy who not watching the game for at least 5 match will be lost...
    2 every manager who support his team friends will get one rest or moral for each game he is supporting.
    3 scout will be update every day and the players will be from the age of 18 to 22 , why i need to pay 59 tokens for 24 years old player that even not close to 7 stars...
    4 for those who playing illegal , will be get some punishment such as willget red card or penalties againts them...
    5 opportunities for manager to pick the hour of his home games on preseason ...(why do i need to spend every season 20 tokens for moving my games to late hour???)
    i got loads of suggestions for you
    but i dont know if anyone listening out there...
    please take it to your consideration , loads of managers will leave if you gonna make the game unfair...
    God bless you all and thanks in advance.

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    Hiya mate,

    The quality of the team isn't always the deciding factor. We will always get freak results also, though usually not against the bottom teams.


    I'd look into the strategy of top eleven a bit, and make sure you a using the last tab in the squad page appropriately.
    make sure the players are over 90¨% fitness, your training regime is giving you bonuses.

    I also find that buying a couple of players at the beginning ofg the seasonn and using green packs to train your team is far better than buying players. I bought a player at 99% on the first day of the season, and just through playing and training him normally as a team he is 125% now. I dont spend any money really, though I watch all the adverts possible.
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    Mate, be prepared for funny comments on your pledge!
    I'll answer only to entry 1: eliminate people who do not watch the games ? That's called having a life and in my country, this is perfectly authorized ! I'll reply to you: save your money and buy a gift to your girlfriend... if any...

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    I understand. Here is what I have to say.

    1. Stop buying so much tokens. When you invest so much, there is more pressure in you to get the results that you want. While this might appear to be just a virtual game, it might affect your morale in real life.

    2. Quality is only one of the factors that affect the outcomes. Tactics is another, and there are suspected hidden effects (percentage efficiency, form, fixed matches and so on). What you may see visually in terms of quality might not be what there is actually. There is a sort of illusion.

    3. There are some games that appear that their outcomes have been fixed or pre-determined. For instance, for a specific game, you will lose or get a draw, but you will not win no matter what you do, unless you have extreme superiority in quality (as high as around 180% or above). This may be the case for a knock-out rounds too, where you are likely to be knocked-out no matter what you do as manager.

    4. This game contains flaws, and also some of the functioning of this game has no football sense.

    5. This game functions a lot like a casino game. Its main aim is to make money out of people due to their weaknesses or imperfections. This include the want to win, addiction and so on.

    I have already quitted this game once after having been gutted with all the 'nonsense' that have occurred last year (2015). I came back after the I noticed that there is a new version. Some bad things, some of which are not acceptable are still there though.

    Concerning your 0-0 draw, take into consideration that you cannot always win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
    I understand. Here is what I have to say.

    2. Quality is only one of the factors that affect the outcomes. Tactics is another, and there are suspected hidden effects (percentage efficiency, form, fixed matches and so on). What you may see visually in terms of quality might not be what there is actually. There is a sort of illusion.

    3. There are some games that appear that their outcomes have been fixed or pre-determined. For instance, for a specific game, you will lose or get a draw, but you will not win no matter what you do, unless you have extreme superiority in quality (as high as around 180% or above). This may be the case for a knock-out rounds too, where you are likely to be knocked-out no matter what you do as manager.

    5. This game functions a lot like a casino game. Its main aim is to make money out of people due to their weaknesses or imperfections. This include the want to win, addiction and so on.
    Just as a side note about what you said, that's totally wrong. There are NO fixed matches or outcomes in Top Eleven, all matches are simulated by the game engine taking into account hundreds of variables.

    Some results may make more sense to you than others, but not understanding why you lost a game you thought you would win -because you had much better players- doesn't mean the game had a fixed outcome for it

    We may don't know why something happened in the game, or some events / results can make no sense at all. But just because you don't know why did it go that way doesn't mean it's rigged or some casino-plan to make you spend money.

    There are many many many variables that affect every match, every event of the match, specially how your tactics and formation work with your rival's tactics and formations. As you said, it's not all about quality, like in real life football. And just because you don't have the full picture about what was going on, does not imply it's a pre-fixed outcome.

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    "i buy tokens"

    OK, your results are extremely satisfying
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    i am that close to leave this game after 4 consecutive years and paying alot...
    You 're playing this game for 4 years and you got one troll result, a draw vs the 14th ?
    Lucky you
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    Thanks all for your comments and advices...
    i really appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph P Brenner View Post
    1 guy who not watching the game for at least 5 match will be lost...
    2 every manager who support his team friends will get one rest or moral for each game he is supporting.
    3 scout will be update every day and the players will be from the age of 18 to 22 , why i need to pay 59 tokens for 24 years old player that even not close to 7 stars...
    4 for those who playing illegal , will be get some punishment such as willget red card or penalties againts them...
    5 opportunities for manager to pick the hour of his home games on preseason ...(why do i need to spend every season 20 tokens for moving my games to late hour???)
    well... for me
    #1. why? because he is not watching the game? come on....our life is not in T11, all of us have real life (and live in different time zone, so what happen if all games schedule at 3am? you are going to woke up at 3am to watch the game? or at 10am ...which mostly the time people are working? ) ... this is just a game .why force people to watch the live game?

    #2. if this happen, this have to set a limit...otherwise, you can "support" thousand of "your friend" ( in theory...other accounts you own) and this is kind of other type of "cheating"

    #3. well.... i think in the real world, the scout won't just give the boss 18-22 years old player also... so one side you want T11 to make the game close to real world...on the other side, you suggest T11 to make something not really happen in the real world...well...sound funny...

    #4. what you mean "playing illegal"?? illegal formation?? and even playing illegal formation, why need to have some punishment like red card or penalties (and that is "penalties" with 's') ...just why?? in the real world, in theory you can use whatever formation you like...and will they get red card or penalties just for the illegal formation?? no...i don't think so...(and do you know what time is the red card and the penalty will be given?? that is the "football rule")

    #5. this is kinda hard, because some teams also has CL and CUP (and CL and CUP...you don't know how far you will go) so, how can you pick the hours of the home games on preseason? this question is not only about you (the home team)...this also affect the away team...
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    Ahlony Wong, this 'illegal formation' thing is something that I have never agreed with in this game. Like you said, you should be free to use whatever formation you want, that is there should be no penalty in these terms. However, if ever the formation is inappropriate to be used against a particular opponent, then of course it should be classified as inferior. In fact, in some cases, illegal formations have been observed to be superior. But, some people have mentioned the possible purpose of having the 'illegal formation' system. This might prevent unexpected outcomes (referred here by many users as 'troll' results). But, still 'troll results' have been occurring. So, this game might be fooling you.
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