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    I rarely ever used 3 wide defenders. Go with narrow 3. 3 defenders against 1 striker and if needed they'll still defend the wide areas 1 v 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Pistolero View Post
    I rarely ever used 3 wide defenders. Go with narrow 3. 3 defenders against 1 striker and if needed they'll still defend the wide areas 1 v 1
    i'll give it a try ,this semi final opponent is playing in league lv 25 while i'm in league 24 but we are facing each other in semi final cl this season ,his team is like half world class and half 2 stars above world class , i lost against the first match 1-0 in his stadium i played 3-1-2-1-2 saw that somewhere in forum(they said it"s a good counter for 4-5-1) i don't usually play with that tactic i only changed for him .so i hope a miracle will happen in the second match .

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Pistolero View Post
    Sorry but nobody with a successful tactic is going to share it. Not unless they want people to figure out a counter for it.

    I won 2 trebles in a row but this season I've lost 4 games yet only dropped 2 points last season. I'm starting to think it's not as affective anymore.

    Also, I gave my tactics to a friend and it didn't work for him so what worked for me might not work for you.
    I created this thread only to open a discussion in tactics and how they work
    Not to share formations and its counters

    For example: a discussion about offside trap
    X uses defensive counter with offside because he believes it gives a defensive boost against many attacks
    Y doesn't agree with him because He thinks it suits attacking tactic not defensive
    Z thinks whether using it or not using it won't matter as it has a very small effect in matches and doesn't have an important role in the outcome of matches

    It's all about your experience on the tactic and how do you think it works

    Let's start a discussion on offside trap

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    Ah ok.

    Well I minimise risk whilst still attacking. The more I need a goal the more I risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Pistolero View Post
    Ah ok.

    Well I minimise risk whilst still attacking. The more I need a goal the more I risk.
    Does offside traps increase the chances of conceding a goal ?? ( if both teams are equals )

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Pistolero View Post
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    Nope. Mostly just turned scouts or 5* with 1 almost world class player. Most have special abilities but they're players I collected over the months who actually perform well. I don't buy tokens either.
    Look at that moral!! Nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medo zalata View Post
    Does offside traps increase the chances of conceding a goal ?? ( if both teams are equals )
    Technically speaking, no. But you allow the opposition more possession meaning more possible chances.

    The 'force counter' option is purely luck. If used right it could be the difference between 1 goal or 4 goals.
    There are negatives to it though. It's best applied when you have a DMC or enough players in defence to make the timely tackle, also I wouldn't apply it when the opposition has a DMC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Pistolero View Post
    I'm starting to think it's not as affective anymore.
    This is one of the traps in this game. This is what the game wants to make you to believe. It might well be a business ploy to make the user spend more. I had such impressions too; this was last year (2015), when I started to feel that certain tactics did not seem to effective any more. What probably happened in many of those cases, especially where you were the stronger team, are as follows.

    (1) the opponent used a proper counter set of tactics
    (2) the game gave significant hidden advantages to the opponent
    (3) a combination of (1) and (2)

    For number (2), some users might say it is due to the 'roll of the dice', but I think there is more than that influencing the outcomes of matches in this game. For sure I tell you that there are fishy things going from behind. These fishy things have probably been programmed to happen.

    Take into consideration that whatever you see on the pitch or in the comments, is made to occur to by game itself. You have limited control of it, and you cannot fully trust in what the game showed you as supposedly happening during a match. The same applies for the match statistics, ratings and so on. In other words, the game can easily 'fool' the users. Many things are illusions.

    Also, I observed many switches appearing to be random switches rather than being logic switches.

    The bottom line: this game might be far from what you might expect from a proper football management simulation game. An appropriate football management simulation game, simple or not, should be based on football management as it is, the outcomes of matches should be mainly be affected by tactics and quality, with random effects contributing relatively little to the outcomes, and for sure there should be no 'fishy', hidden effects that are probably business strategies or ploys. I am sure if what I strongly suspect to be the real 'face' of this game is the case, and is showed to all the users, many users, especially those that spent a lot of money and/or time on it, will be angry and will start manifestations against Nordeus. This game, as I have said before a lot of times, most likely functions a lot like a casino game, and maybe even worst. I have not used the term 'casino' because of the randomness that may be in this game, but because of how it has been programmed to make things happen, mostly based on business point of views.

    P.S: this thread was about sharing tactics experience; I shared on how this game it is itself based on a lot of observations.
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    I'm not sure I'd agree although there is controversy in some matches that may look like that.

    I did have a season where i went unbeaten for half the season having a massive gap between me and 2nd place until I started losing so many games I finished 3rd on the last day 2 points away from winning the league. That was a very weird 13 games.

    I won so much the last 3 months I got bored and started to pay less attention to my team then suddenly I started losing games. 4 games doesn't seem like a lot but I had similar opponents, if not twice as strong in terms of quality but I only drew 1 and lost 0 so to me, 4 losses in 1 week is a little fishy. I dropped my 2 CBs for my older 2 that I went unbeaten with despite less quality and almost reversed a 2-5 semi final and won 4-1. Unfortunately it wasn't enough to go through on goal difference.

    Maybe Nordeous thought 'this dude has won 2 trebles in a row and he hasn't spent a penny. Let's ruin his season' hahaha xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Pistolero View Post
    I'm not sure I'd agree although there is controversy in some matches that may look like that.

    I did have a season where i went unbeaten for half the season having a massive gap between me and 2nd place until I started losing so many games I finished 3rd on the last day 2 points away from winning the league. That was a very weird 13 games.

    I won so much the last 3 months I got bored and started to pay less attention to my team then suddenly I started losing games. 4 games doesn't seem like a lot but I had similar opponents, if not twice as strong in terms of quality but I only drew 1 and lost 0 so to me, 4 losses in 1 week is a little fishy. I dropped my 2 CBs for my older 2 that I went unbeaten with despite less quality and almost reversed a 2-5 semi final and won 4-1. Unfortunately it wasn't enough to go through on goal difference.

    Maybe Nordeous thought 'this dude has won 2 trebles in a row and he hasn't spent a penny. Let's ruin his season' hahaha xD
    This is probably one of the business strategies: the game encourages you by making your 'life' easier in 1-2 seasons. In those seasons, things will go smoothly; you might beat much better quality teams if you used the appropriate counter formations. If you are a serious user, you will likely win most competitions unless you face other users that have the same temporary advantages given to you.There will be likely no 'troll results' when your team face teams inferior in quality and/or tactics. But, then, that is in the following 1-2 seasons, things will turn sour. This is where the other part of the programming takes effect. You will start to have strange results. You might have a lot of injuries in the same period or in other periods, but it will be more likely be in that same season. There could also be tactical or other football explanations for some of your losses, but for others there won't likely be any in terms of football.

    These cycles will repeat. Based on observations, a new team or a recently activated team will be at the start of the cycle, where there will be a lot of things in the user's favour. Or, it might also start after a team has failed promotion, especially a team that had mostly losses in the previous season, that is after a team has gone through a long period of bad results, for instance in the case of 'tanking'. The next season after having failed promotion, things will more likely be smooth again. You might even go unbeaten and concede as low as no goals in that particular season in the Cup too.

    Briefly, this game contains a lot of business strategies or ploys. A lot of things have been programmed to happen in this game, based mostly on the business point of view.

    I have also noticed some effects after I have bought tokens (49-100T), and to your surprise, most have been negative effects. This might be a coincidence, but it has happened on enough occasions to say that the possibility of something being related to token purchases to be there. For those users who don't purchase tokens regularly, that is in every season or two, it seems that their situations are different - most likely better situations. You would have expected the reverse to occur, but this is what I have observed. One possible reason: the user who has bought tokens will more likely buy more tokens in the future as compared to a user that has not bought any tokens since a lot of seasons; so things are made to happen to 'force' or tempt that particular user to buy more tokens. In other words, the game has been programmed to target certain type of users, which explain why some users have not experienced bad things to such an extent as others.

    It is very unlikely that there are things like that:'Nordeous thought 'this dude has won 2 trebles in a row and he hasn't spent a penny. Let's ruin his season''. Why? Because this requires manual interference. It is more likely that there are things that have been programmed (that is, it its already there in the game) to happen at some point, and for it to happen certain specific criteria must be satisfied.


    P.S: Other users agree or not, what I have said has been based on several observations.
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