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Well I crashed out of semis in cl that was acceptable cause I lost to a better opponent but how the hell do I lost in cup final had a rating of 106 over a 90 opponent still....
This game is only meant for the ****ng money bags who buy tokens if u wanna win buy tokens........ I will win the league though am six points
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1) Formation/counter-formation - they played 3W-4-1-2, you should have countered with 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond and hit them through the middle.
2) Condition - if that was the condition after the match then they must have been tired before the match.
3) Just because you spend money doesn't mean you win every match. If you haven't spent money then you made a good team from nothing - I can't see anything in the fragment of the opposition team that indicated that they're a big money-spender.
Presumably the expletives in the heading and your overall attitude means you're quitting - goodbye...
Looks very like your team was in very low condition & low moral at the start of the match ?
I you don´t prepare & go in half arsed what do you expect.
I'm sorry you lost the cup final.
With late KO round fixtures, I always assume the opponent is going on max (or near max) w/ morale and condition.
Patience is the key to success. Season after season we've failed to catch up the leaders ever, and we're now 4 times runner up in 9 seasons. But still I haven't given up. Someday we'll win the league, but don't know when. This season too is over, as the leaders now have a 8 point lead with 2 games to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shivam Chaudhary
But yes, I have 2 Cups and a CL. Not many successful managers in this forum can boast of even 1 Cup, so I take pride in that.
LOL~ 11 season passed... i only won 1 CUP... and i am always facing very strong team... (LV11 in LV16 CUP..... last season i am in LV15 CUP) but i still can went to semi-final~ ^^~
There are many possible explanations for bad outcomes. Some might be due to managerial errors including the use of improper tactics, but for sure in some cases there is something else involved. I have seen a lot of 'nonsense' happening in this game. I have also observed trends, and also indications showing how things have been decided that your team won't be favoured.
Don't think that if you spend money buying tokens, you will have more 'success' in this game. You might have well bought a lot tokens and have a worst season than you had. This game has some things programmed in it so that money can be 'extorted' from users. I have bought a lot of tokens last year (2015), and I have observed a lot of bad things. I highly suspect that there are things in this game so that certain users are identified as potential targets.This also explains why some users that did not made any purchase or did not made a purchase since a very long time did not experience certain things.
I already quit this game once in 2015 after having experienced many unacceptable things. Some of things had repeated in this season. I have posted several things concerning this game. You can read and make your own deductions.
After all that I have seen, there is no way I am going to spend more money in this game. It is much better to use this money for something else. I am already considering whether I should quit again. The way this game functions, has hurt a lot of people. Those that lost a lot of tokens in bids in the auction market may have been affected in real life (sadness, depression and so on). The important matches that users should not have lost too, that is where they had superior tactics and quality, have hurt them too.
This game is far from being a proper football management simulation game. It is a game based mostly on business. There are surely a lot of business ploys or strategies in this game. This game can be compared a lot to casino games. There are also some unfair things in this game, for instance a user having significantly more offers than another user. I, for instance, I never had a token or a pack from offers since I started playing this game, while others users can earn as 50-100 packs daily.
The best advice I would give someone concerning this game is to stop playing it. If you can't, due to your weaknesses, for example addiction, at least limit the effort, time and money you spend on this game. While this game might be fun, especially at the beginning, it is also a source of annoyance and worry. In playing this game, you might be penalising yourself and also contributing into other people's sufferings. Also, you will be contributing to something that seems to be bad as whole.
I have contributed a lot to this forum. From now on, I will no longer contribute in any way that it benefits Nordeus. It would be bad to help something bad succeed.
Hi Tactician
As you know, we already discussed that with you some weeks ago. Again, you make some affirmations with no data to back them, rather than your own experience. While your experience in Top Eleven and many situations involving the game may be big or huge, that doesn't mean there's an evil plan to make you perform this or that other action, or a specific even to happen here and there.
The game engine that simulates matches couldn't be more far away from a casino game. There are no prefixed outcomes or results, there are only variables being taken into account during the simulation. Again, the fact that you don't understand why something happened doesn't mean the system is rigged or has an evil plan to hurt you.
Sorry but comparing an auction being lost with a real disease like depression is totally out of line. When you say "this game has hurt a lot of people", do you have anything to back this up? How many people you know has been hurt by Top Eleven? This is a game and you are playing against others, auction system works that way, sometimes you will win, sometimes others will, that's how it is. Like on any other games where you are playing against other real players, you can lose (auctions and matches) and there's nothing wrong with that.
Top Eleven is enjoyed every day by milions of players around the World. If you don't have fun with it or if frustrates you, that's okay, nobody is forcing you to play, but don't pretend everybody gets depressed when they lose a match or an auction, and "you're contributing to people's suffering" by playing a game that "has hurt a lot of people", come on Tactician ;)
Top Eleven is a football manager game a lot of people have fun playing with, we see it every day and they tell us every day. And we keep improving it to make it better and more fun to play, collecting and taking into account users' feedback.
As I was saying, I get it, you don't like it, it frustrates you. That's not the goal and the purpose of Top Eleven and I can undertand why you feel that way. And regarding to this, if I can do anything to help you understand why something happens in the game, you just have to ask, I will do my best.
I've read the thread where you explain what happened to you with injuries. If you look at real football, you will see teams facing similar problems on specific seasons, and then on other seasons, these teams face almost no injuries. This season has been terrible for you regarding injuries, you had a lot, an awful amount of them -btw, we're collecting data about this too-. Let me ask: how was the last season regarding injuries? And 2 seasons ago? And 3 seasons ago? Is this something that happened to your team every season or just this season? Do you really think the game has a plot to award your players a yellow card so you won't get a treatment at the end of the match so you won't be able to heal your injuried players, as I read in that thread? That's way off the line, really.
Even 100% fit players can get injuried in real life, just the chance is much smaller than if they were not. And any team can have 1 injury per match during 3 consecutive matches. In real life and in Top Eleven. Have you seen Madrid recently? They got Benzema injuried, then on the next match, Cristiano was injuried too. Benzemá returned in the next match, and got injuried again. Is there a plot against Madrid or it's just that injuries happen in football?
Moi, I had played this game before (in 2015), and many things seems to repeat itself including injuries. I spoke to someone from Nordeus in 2015; it was skyqueen. She did have a look and have agreed on something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moi
Sure injuries can occur in real life, but not to the extent of how it occurs in this game, and surely not in the way they occur. And this is only one concern. I highly suspect fishy things going on for the outcome of certain matches. And if ever it is due to randomness, it is not appropriate because randomness cannot have so much an effect on the outcome of a football match. But, I still think there are other things going on besides randomness though.
For me, tactics and quality should be the major contributors to the outcomes of matches with randomness being a minor contributor. Match preparation, including the bonus is also acceptable as a major-minor contributor. If it is not like this or if ever there is something else involved in there that significantly affects the outcomes of certain matches, then this is wrong.
About the 'hurt' feeling, I know what I'm talking about. A user who bought a lot of tokens is in a different situation than a user who obtained a lot of tokens from 'free' offers.
the game itself is not hurting people...only people's mod hurting themselves ~LOL
a lost is a lost~ nothing can do about it (and this is just a game). why you get anger with a game??
i am always the strongest team in the league... cause my team is always 7 stars at the beginning of the season (every my sub player already 8 stars right now ) but still...every season i will lose 1 game at least ~LOL no idea...it just happened (last season lost 4 games and draw 2...like losing to a team .... Q12 below me for 2:0...report said they got very lucky LOL )
I have already said enough. Users can take their own conclusion themselves based on my posts and on what they have experienced. What I have said is based on a lot observations including my teams and other users teams. Don't assume that I don't have a lot data just because I have not posted the whole thing.
By the way, can you tell me why a team had a league match (no option to re-schedule) 3 hours before a Cup final while the other team involved in the final had no matches before the final in the day concerned?
Maybe you were beaten by tactics, or may be you had a bad day like you say. Speaking of 'bad day', what are the variables for those? Can Moi comment on this, for instance if such a thing exist in this game? Ahlony Wong, my concerns are different. It is not just about a stronger team like yours getting beaten by lower quality teams. If your tactics were inferior in those situations, you must be beaten or get a bad result; this is football logic. If not, then surely it is a concern, especially if it happened in important matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahlony Wong
Moi, can you also comment on this: http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...op-eleven.html .
By the way, I neither play with dice nor do I believe in things like luck.
I'm just new at T11 (at the end of 3rd season), but I've also seen my players very often injured this season. It was more often, than last season - and it seems, young player suffers more injures.
I also have a good player, which can't play 3 leaguegames because of 6 Yellow (=3x red) cards. That just happend...
I won a game vs 2 point better team, because he had "only" 15 players and his two top players were banned. It just happens...
I have had a lot of players injured at the end of this season, I assume they get more susceptible as the season goes on.
I think there are a lot of conspiracy theories going on here, I do imagine there is a certain randomness to how well your players perform though. It would only make sense. There are probably a lot of other variables that are in play that we don't know also.
You will see less injuries the higher
you go and the pitches you playy on will become more user friendly.
Since my pitch maxed out a couple of seasons back I have had only two or three injuries a season.
GK might be one of the factor... from the rating and the # of save can tell... (yet, even the rating sometime is funny for GK)
but like 3 on target and save 1.... and opposite got 2 goal....----> this is the report said "they are lucky" or it will say something like "the opposite use their chances" and the DC (i only use 3 DC) rating is high...like over 7.5 but the GK....5.8 (also the whole team is over 7.5)
well, this might be the report said they got lucky (well... even the super strong team, can't avoid the weak team to to shot several times in 90 min...right?)
Whatever you see, be it the report (statistics, ratings and so on) or the highlights are made to happen by the game; in other words what you see is what the game wants you to see or what it wants you to believe what happened. There might also be tricks in there to fool you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahlony Wong
Don't believe things such as 'they got lucky' or whatever. The game made the other team win (for whatever reasons), and yet it tells you they got lucky? There is no 'luck' in there. Do you think some users have been winning back to back titles (and in some cases, back to back doubles or trebles) due to luck? If so, then given the fact they are so 'lucky' they should be enjoying life in this world with all the facilities and so on rather than being addicted to top eleven; they should be living in the way they have always dreamt about, but this is not likely to be the case, is it?
By the way, there are many posts in this forum showing how accurate the assistant manager is in what he 'says'.
'When the going gets tough the tough gets going' ...... I will come back stronger I already have a good team .... I had not wasted a single penny and never would..... On a (well I can't say the curse words now) being warned.... But still the basic reason behind my anger was that I have an imp exam still I decided to arrange time for every match and than u get this...... I was thinking of a double if not treble well now I will build from bottom .....
My players didn't create chances in second half.... That's what's ****...
Moi and admin I want you guys to reply why I lost.... Just tell some thing some explanation is all I need .... I won't stop playing .... But please don't start targeting my account now....
And do believe me the game depresses u if u loose their is no arguing that coz we play it as if its reality..... Well thats what we believe and its the exact reason why u have such a huge no of players .....
Do you get depressed or feel sad, that is has it affected you in real life when you have lost a lot of tokens in bids or when you have lost a match that you should not have lost (that is where you were superior in both tactics and quality)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shivam Chaudhary
