View Poll Results: Should the Cup draw be fixed to make sure people are playing people in their level?

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    Cup and champns league no more possible !!!!!!
    I am level 42 and i play against teams level 44/45 and they earn cup and champions league every season because not enough teams on my server !!! No more possible, change something nirdeus!!!! I am ready to spend money for tokens but just bevause of that i don't buy because no interesting impossible to win the 3 competitions!!!!! Change this and fast please !!!!
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    i talked about that so long.... and before i say that is "cheating" ....
    i suggest that the CUP draw is go for totally random for +/- 1 Level will be more fair~

    now the stronger team you are, the higher level team you meet to balance the Q ---> this is a stupid idea~ (i don't know who come up this idea... but he is STUPID!" every season i am facing at least 3 LV higher than me~ and the team Q has limited to level~ like what the hack is that system~ my LV13 team .... 7 star player is just look like to be a 3 star team in LV 17 "cheating" team who sell all the player in the last couple days of the last season. he can easily overpower a LV 13 team even using 5 stars players~ fair??? this is totally unfair!

    well... and some people will say, the lower LV CUP they go, the lower $$ they gain, but still, they take up to final and gain more than usually what he has to be go over in his LV!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlony Wong View Post
    i talked about that so long.... and before i say that is "cheating" ....
    i suggest that the CUP draw is go for totally random for +/- 1 Level will be more fair~
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    If Cup Draw go for totally random, it must draw from pools of teams in same level or a set of several levels. For a pool with several levels, there should still be some teams having advantages as higher level teams in that set.

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    I don't think, one or two transfer windows will solve this "issue". I think, the main thing is, that managers who train, like, love their squads/players will get disadvantage of keeping the players. And that's the biggest issue... no real club will sell his (best) players, only for showing a weakness... -.-
    I think, one of the best ideas is, match them on their levels: 1-3, 4-6, 7-9,... so there's every third season the best chance to win the cup.

    I'm one of those manager, who builds up his squad over a whole season, where I don't cared much on standings. And now I'm the dumb, because I have a pretty good team for my managerlevel... and that's really frustrating and annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nash123 View Post
    no real club will sell his (best) players, only for showing a weakness... -.-
    Except that in top eleven, they do...
    As far it goes for 1-3 levels and a best chance every 3rd season, it doesn't sound charming.... I would personally want to be competitive every season, otherwise if you get to face a 2-level higher manager from 1st round and get eliminated (best scenario is this, let's face it), you lose your precious money from the cup.

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    I avoided a promotion for 2 seasons, while building up a good team for the cup. Last season I ended up winning a lvl 16 cup while I was 13. However I already planned for the infamous "easy cup draw exploit". I now ended up in a much much MUCH easier league with 1* or even 2* teams while even the cup is a lot easier.
    I am now guilty of the same crime I've been a victim for several seasons. Yeah, I might win but this surely will piss off a lot of people.

    I also agree to implement a better draw for the cup without having to exploit it because it leads to 2 problems:

    1) Unfair cup to some players. Contrary to real football where a weaker team can actually eliminate a stronger team in a single leg match, here it's nearly impossible for a 3* or 4* star team to win against a stronger team in 2 legs.

    2) You have to dismantle a good team to get a good draw. I had 2 sell 2 6* players that I now miss because I couldn't find a replacement, unless I spend 1 or even 2 seasons to get them to the same level with a SA and a second or third role. You should keep players for more seasons like in real football instead of working continously on the market, instead of being an occasional activity during the season.

    However, having only a few market window despite realism will close the game even more and make it more "static", other than preventing Nordeus to get their money (which is what they are working for).

    I don't know if a slight improvement in player's progression is gonna help keeping a good team together, or that we need to rework the cup draw itself. I hardly found in the cup the same teams I faced in the league, and those where much more balanced (to me at least).

    I think that the first cup leg could be "blind", and working as a real qualification round where you can't see your next opponents. Once you win it the game can calculate the next round as normal with equivalent opponents. I think this way you can't really plan for an easy draw in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyltyl View Post

    However, having only a few market window despite realism will close the game even more and make it more "static", other than preventing Nordeus to get their money (which is what they are working for).

    Then it could be made so we can't buy 3* and 4*. Keep it open for just 5* players and of course nothing happens to scout players. Just disable the opportunity to buy 3-4* players in the last 7 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aris Vardakas View Post
    Then it could be made so we can't buy 3* and 4*. Keep it open for just 5* players and of course nothing happens to scout players. Just disable the opportunity to buy 3-4* players in the last 7 days.
    That could be unfair to those who can't afford better players and just want a substitute. Since I couldn't find any better players for the moment I bought a 3* player to train if I ever need a substitution.
    Unfortunately you will never know if you are buying a low level to exploit the draw or because you really want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyltyl View Post
    That could be unfair to those who can't afford better players and just want a substitute. Since I couldn't find any better players for the moment I bought a 3* player to train if I ever need a substitution.
    Unfortunately you will never know if you are buying a low level to exploit the draw or because you really want it.
    One problem leads to another
    But you have the whole season to buy a substitute, why wait till the last week to do so?
    And also you got the academy.

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    To my opinion, the cup is perfect as it is. I won it 3 times by manipulating my squad and 3 times without. There is always a way to win it. But remember, in all cases, it takes luck and maybe was I lucky more than deserved...

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