pictures are telling everything...can some1 form NORDEUS explain me how is this possible...to have this monster in cup with 5 lvl higher than rest of the teams....REALLY??????????/!!!!!!!!!!!
i invested all tokens, greens in this season to try to do first treble and u put this team in our cup....eeee....disgusting...at least..
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its only right if they can explain, wonder how they gonna explain. anxious to know.
It's not cheating... that's the way the cup goes: Sell all your top players at the end of the season, so your draw is quite easy (maybe 5 levels below), buy 99% players, push them to 120% - if you are the only one in your cup draw, that uses this way, you've the cup.
Btw. Welcome to the most stupid competition.
Nordeus (and some users) always tell us, that the cup is the most competitive, and bla bla in this game... that's the biggest nonsens ever. Cup is only the biggest cashcow for Nordeus. Or why do you think, they don't change it? Exspecially Moi tells us, they want to make it fair (see the post about packs from video).
FA are the most interesting part of this game. There... it doesn't matter, if someone sells his player. There... you don't get a disadvantage, to keep your players,... Over the last 9 weekends, our FA met so many Cup (and Triple)-Winners, which have up to 11 1* player in their team... we have beatem them all, because they only buy their wins, no managing, no idea,...
I don't go for the cup anymore. If I ever win it again, it's okay, but not more. If the cupdraw ever will be redesigned to a real competition, I will take this challenge again.
Again: Cupdraw like FA: Only Stars matter, so no disadvantage for keeping the players, and no more excuse, that there are to less players of same level for fair cupdraw, because they can take every level.
I can explain it better than them - lolQuote:
Originally Posted by HairDryer
Cause I 'm doing the same :o
The Cup has a specific way for making the draw.
It doesn't matter the lv, it's just the quality of 14 higher lv players of the team.
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...p-changes.html
So, what you do is to lower the quality of your team for a better draw.
After crashing sometimes in the cup, I followed that thread (guide) here in the forum and expand it too.
http://forum.topeleven.com/tutorials...w-win-cup.html
so just give you an example
my team lv23 played vs Rum Drinkers lv20, double winners of previous season.
You can see how close is the avg quality of our teams.
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That's one of the two games.
My 6* and early 7* players looks like 9*-10* for Yvonne as she is 3 levels down.
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In your case, your opponent is doing the same method and as you are near the top of the server, the levels difference is bigger (than mine with 3 levels) because there are fewer teams there.
So, next time you want to invest, read first carefully the thread above, ask there questions you want and go for the treble.
Good luck
and use a program like paint/draw to edit the images.
There is no reason to expose your oppo or yourself.
When you win, don't be arrogant because that doesn't mean you are much better, do your best to keep it up; when you lose, don't simply complain Nordeus or suspect others cheating, look back at your own team and come back next season.
there is no Cheating. Simply stupid cup draw. Everyone who play long enough know how to win and you even call it "competition". 5 lvl higher is no competition.
seaso after season is the same problem with cup draw, same reply we get. the cup is design that way if you wanna win it do the dirty trick to lower your team so that you get a easy draw. then where is the challenge. you call it competition. No you not cheating, you cheat the system.
I can understand that guy lvl39 vs lvl44 he feel cheated you playing an unfair game.(nordeus design it). if you are a token buyer how much token do you need to compete with oppo 5 lvl higher. no way you can win.
Do you all think the nordeus staff will say the same to win cup lower your team do this and that. it time to come out with suggestion for a better cup draw rather then tell ppl how to win cup by lower your team.(dnt make sense)
just a simple explanation from nordeus staff or a change is needed.
I reserved the space below for nordeus staff to give some explaination.
39 seasons in top eleven...and quite of silverware...i believe i know how this game works.....i always play against higher club lvl in cup cause my team is always strong so they match weaker team from higher lvl...BUT NEVER MORE THAN 2 lvl....2 lvl.....what the **** is this....5 lvl....and u are telling me that this is not wrong coding/cheating...really?????...after i played 39 seasons...heh....
Not showing off, but I have won the Cup by beating stronger teams or close to equal quality teams from 1-2 levels above (no manipulation or draw fooling used; just to tell you that it is possible to win it), but yes, opponents from 3 or more levels higher is too much, especially if they are active.
I never manipulated or fooled draws as such, and yet I still won a lot, including 2 Cups and went into several semi-finals and finals. Some members of my 'late' association also won the Cup without manipulation as such. This is more likely to be an achievement compared than those that did it with manipulation.
I don't like those manipulation or draw fooling at all, but it is understandable why some people do it. But here, you cannot say that he manipulated the draw unless there were (or still are) 1-2 star players in his team. If ever you face someone that manipulated the draw, then partly blame the people who showed him how to do it and also partly blame the company for not having fixed this exploit.
One explanation, not sure if it was from them, was that it was for others (those from levels above but with less quality teams for their level) to have a chance to win something in this game. But then, with draw manipulators around, this purpose is lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by HairDryer
I had said it once (or maybe more) that I did not have any problem as such in facing opponents from 1-2 levels. In fact, It is like a different challenge to what the other two competitions (now three) provided.. But, 3 levels and above is too much, and now with draw manipulators around, the situation of this competition might be even more worse. I did propose some things that would have improved this competition, where there won't be the need for draw manipulation as such and also the ability to manipulate the draw would have been decreased significantly.
But, for sure, the company seem to consider the business side first; this is their main priority (just like any business company). The associations thing itself was created more from the business point of view. Don't believe in those '****s' they tell you here and there such as 'managers we listen', 'no condition loss' and 'only stars matter'. The main reason is that they must have seen a clear financial or possible financial benefit from it for them to have introduced it. If you yourself have been participating in the associations, you must have been spending more green packs, you must have been facing stronger teams and you have been contributing to the business side in other ways, for example, by causing others to spend. Briefly, this company has put people to compete against each other, fooling them and reaping the benefits. What the users get is entertainment, fun, satisfaction, or frustration and anger, and that's it. You don't win anything more in this game. Tokens, virtual money and so on has no value as such as they have to be spent in the game itself which makes the company even more of a winner.
well...seems i will go on well deserved break after this season....maybe i will pull of...though it will be hard....nvm....thx for replies...and thanks NORDEUS for not replying...time for my money to go to some other game...we can close this post...
Forum members (and moderators) have been doing most of the work of Nordeus here for free. Lately, there have been Moi and Jeeves; but before, there was no one as such present from Nordeus around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by lordteri
i very much understand where you coming from tactician infact i somewhat agree with you bt i dont wanna put business sense in it. in business is all about making money so leave that part.
for us who play this game is about entertainment and fun with some frustration and anger ofcoz bt again with sense and logic.
i've won 5 cup without manupulating the draw playing 2,3lvl higher with satisfaction and somewhat achievement for me yes.
Last season i won my cup and league 6mth after quitting.After rebuilding my team i feel sorry for my oppo i created a monster. Win is still a win but no excitement and satisfaction, should i say no competetion. I dont enjoy it.
So the same playing 5lvl above no logic no satisfaction no competition to the WINNER and LOSER" Simple stupid"
moderator are doing all the job where is nordeus staff??
Yes, for you and other users it may be about something, but not for Nordeus. The priorities are different.Quote:
Originally Posted by HairDryer
It becomes even more 'stupid' when you find out that the game has not much sense in it when it comes to football and tactics. I have not been enjoying the game at all lately despite still winning and still in all 3 competitions, which is among the reasons why I quit. There is no enjoyment when you know you have won by other means other than effort, tactics and management. And even if there is enjoyment, for me what matters is how you get the enjoyment. I mean, you can still do bad things and get enjoyment, you can still hurt other people and get enjoyment, you can still be the cause of someone's else anger or frustration and still get enjoyment, you can still be the cause of someone's loss and get enjoyment and so on. I considered a lot of things before I took the decision of definitely quit this game, and I think that is the best decision.
tactician you still love this game, i can see. You are just frustrated.
No disrespect to you if i quit i wont bother to talk about this game anymore and dnt give a damn.
I still like this game all i want is some explaination and clarification.
No, I don't like it. I don't like how it functions. I don't like many things in it; not satisfactory at all. I also spent a decent amount of money on this game (around $163 since I started playing it), which makes it even more unsatisfactory. Sure, it was fun but only for a period. Now, the game is just ****. I am still around here because I wanted to share some things and also as a 'passtime'. The 'community' here is also good. I said that after I quit last year - good 'community', bad game. But, I wont be around for long. This might be one of my last posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by HairDryer
love if you can stay just play for fun and see how the progress. hope they make some improvement soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tactician
honestly i like your opinion and knowledge to the game.
cheers✌
And the crowd goes wild!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tactician
Seriously though, get over it and move on. You're just damaging the 'community' you like by bringing such negativism. You're acting like a recently dumped schoolboy with all the complaining. There's enough of that already.
things gonna be harder as you going up in levels.Quote:
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but those things already have been discussed (recently here http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...ing-field.html )..
As a veteran player and old forum member I 'm surprised you're surprised - lol
This is a forum for-from users/players of the game. TE give us this space in their site and enough freedom of speech to share our experience, success stories, complains, suggestions, knowledge but for sure it isn't a place where every one posting his problem and waits for an answer.Quote:
.and thanks NORDEUS for not replying
Apologies for the wall of text that is to follow after the break.
Hey everyone,
This won't be an answer by demand of the public, but rather I would like to chime in and share some words with you all. I am a gamer after all and have experienced your concerns as a User and will speak from the POV of a User and not only from that of an employee.
So, here is the answer - the Cup matchmaker seems to require some further adjusting with how it matches Clubs. I can share with you that several months ago the match-maker actually got improved and, talking to our support agents, leads me to believe that the case where a Club would end up against some "monster" are VERY few. And I do say very few. I regularly keep in touch with them to keep track of what's going on.
By the way, make sure to contact our support on EVERY such case where you might be grouped up with a club that can obviously steamroll you out of existence.
This goes for EVERYTHING you experience in Top Eleven that you do not particularly enjoy - Complain. This is one of your greatest prerogatives as Users. We definitely do not shy away from taking feedback, and in some cases take the verbal abuse from some of the players. Sadly it does happen. :(
Now on the point that @Tactician likes to mention a lot - a point that is his opinion I must say. And why I say "His opinion" - I don't exactly know how many of our forum members have had the chance to work on something that is their passion and yet wish to make a living out of it as well. But...
I work with the guys and gals at Nordeus on a daily basis. Day in, day out, Monday till Friday and then some...
Every game out there is being managed by a team hired by a company (a lot of times these teams ARE the company - as in our case) and a company and it's team(s)/assets exist because of it's ability to accumulate wealth.
I think that any person who lives on this planet is fairly aware of the fact that you can't just love you job, you also have to keep that job from expiration and afloat by making sure that it is possible for said job to sustain it self. It would be delusional to think otherwise.
Thus I don't believe that it should be shameful that Top Eleven has the option for some players to spend their hard earned money on it, IF they like it. (I regularly cash-in on several titles that I personally enjoy)
A lot of features of the free-to-play games are meant to also be accessed via monetary expenditure. That's what sustains a free-to-play game. But the notion that the people I work with are money-hungry grinches is appalling.
The F.A. feature mind you was in production for a LONG time, and it WAS actually made to satisfy the many suggestions we have been receiving for the longest time of how everyone want's to basically form up guilds/groups with their friends and play as one, and share the same goal, and beat opponents together.
I won't skip the fact that there have been many issues after the implementation of the F.A., there is no way around this. It seems that our devs were able to finally stabilize the system - judging by the near non-existent complaints over at the support channel.
I also have been following another trend about the LM not functioning properly with some weird happenings going on.
I won't lie, I've had some ludicrous plays by my STs around January this year and even before that, in the middle of 2015 I thought the LM was bogus. What @Tactician shares as feedback, I've experienced an year ago. But I haven't seen anything strange for the past 7 months and, once more, it seems that the general player base doesn't seem to be experiencing strange plays as well, as I've been checking the cases at the support channel and have found no more than 10 such reports from users since January.
I would generally like to let you understand that we constantly read the forums, but I can understand that our moderators seem to be doing all the work (And boy are they doing a lot! Thank you SO much!!!), but Moi and I have our own duties as well.
Still, I agree that it looks like we've been silent and absent. it saddens me that such is the feeling in the forum (As a user I've had the same feelings for the Community representatives of some other game companies who's games I liked), as it is quite damaging for the community of a game, and not to mention for the reputation of said game's development team.
We hear, we read, we take notes, we are the voice of the community at Nordeus and I think it shows that we do not try to hide or censure the voice of the community.
As final thoughts I will say this - Please keep sharing every concern you have for the game, please keep voicing your opinion, but also - please keep the community intact and keep things civilized. You guys are our community and no matter the negativity we won't ignore you.
P.S.
I have misinterpreted the post of @Tactician for which I apologize and have edited the below part of my message. But I will leave this final line because it is still of value and should be considered by all. No ill will meant. Truly and sincerely.
We are all serious people here and are having a discussion - not a debate, not an argument, not a fight. We don't have to love each other but we should be respectful of each other.
thanks jeeves for sharing and giving your time to explain.
i do appreciate
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yes very much.
Every player from teams 3 levels above, it's 10* for me :o
Strasno...i meni se slicno desava.Quote:
Originally Posted by lordteri
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Oh dear. I kinda like it that money or tokens cant buy everything. Where is the fun playing with such an overpowered squad btw.
You seem to want a 100% guaranteed win, whats the point of playing then anyway.
Btw, I still have a 2-3 stars players i use regularly in my starting 11 who outplay my scouts and are still ranked in top 5 of theleague. Stars dont mean anything if that player is programmed to give bad performances. It only takes a bad goalie to loose matches.
probably to be in the Cup final again, both of you manipulating your roster at the end of the season.
But he is doing it better.
You must be near the top of the server I guess
90,7% is far from manipulating the roster. I never manipulate the roster and I have about 110% quality easily. The thing is it just sucks if you face a team like that. Nothing to be done about that. Just breathe, accept the loss or hope for a miracle and go on. You have reached the finale.
I merged those two thread cause it's the same story.
Well my friend, you 're little unlucky as it happened again.
Probably there aren't so many teams in your server so the story repeats.
I 'm afraid this isn't the last time as leveling up , there are few teams so it's very possible to meet him in future cups too.
I'm always intrigued by these threads.
Gonna get heaps of abuse here, I can understand peoples frustration if they have spent money but if that's the case then just adapt.
Here's my team at the moment to get a good Cup draw but what you have to remember is that I have to try and be competitive in the League and the Champions League as well
It's a 35T team and with a few tokens per season from videos I can get a new Scout every month . This doesn't leave much else for the 8 or 9 transfers I have to bring in every season on the third day to replace the 8 or 9 I sold at the end of the season before, it's very tight, and time consuming!!
Just to let folk know that i put as much, if not more, effort into this game than people that just buy a team every few seasons with 'real' money! :D
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It's definitely disheartening to lose to people that so obviously are gaming the current system but football isn't fair. There is no salary cap and FFP is arbitrary at best. Stories like Sevilla in the Europa League or Leicester winning the EPL are what make sport grand. You can choose to be an underdog or a powerhouse in this game. Yes, there are many flaws with integrating freeplay and cash models but I like the challenge that the current setup brings.
I do not use that draw strategy, its not difficult to win the cup, today I have beaten opponent 2 levels above and 7 points stronger average ..... just use your brain, do not spend money and pray that opponent does not turn up for the game , thats quite important actually ;)
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Yes the opponent not turning up help a lot :)
We i got this problem in the CL impossible to win coz my opponent so much stronger and T11 has no reply to it at all after 3 years i said bye bye to top 11 I uninstalled
I cant upload opponent 3 star scouts i never can have vthose players ball possession 68 - 32 for me i controlled the game my team 5 shots on target opponenet 1 shot on target and won how ridiculous can it be
T11 replied they dont understand why i disagree in Cl they are much stronger teams Yes i do agree but in T11 no one can buy 3 star scouts in real life any team can sign any player right .
so The point is T11 can't reply My point is i got no problem to lose from an equal team but i never accept a loss from a 30% stronger team which i cant defend myself this is ridiculous and insane
SO I uninstalled it bye
