High Level Clubs - League draw issues at high levels

:D:) I just want to gloat. ive played for 55 seasons and watched all the pathetic changes you have made in 41/2 years. ive posted and monitored the forum since 2013. Ive seen how you ignore senior managers warnings,your own beta testers views and plow on ruining what was a good experience with your own mindless views. Most of your replies are worthless. I know managers left in droves and that you can hardly fill your servers:D and now you have leagues full of bots and or non managed teams. Pathetic if you try deny these views as you have just promoted me again for finishing in 12th place last season. Perhaps one day when there is no further way for you to destroy our experience , you may just regret not listening too your paying faithful.

What club level are you in?

So you have been promoted from 12th last season? This is something I never heard off, damn.

So far we have heard a lot of weird and unreasonable things at high level.

If this continues, the future of this game will be questionable ...

what level is high level?

i am level 29 now

Is there an option to drop level 10 or 20 when they are too high level? And of course keeping the facilities and training level, because they deserves it, for playing so long.

Probably Nordeus believes that your team can always win or at least keep in top 3 and promote you accidentally.... I am joking only.

I don't think it is acceptable to promote teams at 12th place as they are not ready for next levels. If there are not enough teams in high level and better solution like combining servers is not feasible, I rather want them not promoting some top 8 teams (but for limited no. of seasons only). I assume that the low ranking teams are lower in quality. The low ranking teams more likely narrow the quality gap in a lower level because adding 5 star players can help their team for more.

BTW, league draw have not yet officially completed today (season day 2). I suggest you contact support to object for promotion.

That's because if you 're staying in the same level, your players don't loose q (the stars).
So time to move up, buy and train some new ones ;)

btw, that's not fair for others who are playing in associations.
There are some high level teams with 8*-9* players, probably because they didn't promote.

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What would you say about this?

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Or this? This is the squad im facing in CL group stage.

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My squad was promoted as 9th several times...but also they regullary put me in cups and CL with players 2-3 lvl above me. If so why dont they alow me to by players from theirs transfer list!? But no...they keep saying that everyone has same chance to win?

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Finished 12th level 50. Promoted to level 51

This remind me a suggestion I did regarding high levels...

http://forum.topeleven.com/suggestio...evel-50-a.html

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So you have been promoted from 12th last season? This is something I never heard off, damn.

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why are you saying that ?
it happened last season with Macva and Cascada
here #238
http://forum.topeleven.com/team-show...ecords-24.html

Ffs Promoted again from 12th place,you really are clutching at straws to prevent this game folding. You ruined it Dev,s ,not us managers lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Promoted to level 48 today.
Daily rutine, wake early to check tranfer marked.
Best players 4*

That does not fit in to the squads of 7-9 stars the competable teams have.
So 500 greens to train him? (is that the answer Nordeus?)
What is the point of promotions, if the just ruin the game?
Groundhogs day - that movie says it all. All is the same, every season the same! What ever you do, next season you wake up to the exact same issue, the same opponents, the same 5 teams able to compete, only games important is against them, the same teams.

I am on the verge of dropping out.. Nothing has been done to higher levels. Not even the Academy was actually improved. So far Nordeus keeps saying they will do something, so over a half year it has been the same, no change. not even a estimated expectancy of an actual improve or at least some though, no nothing
It is like hitting into a pillow! :(

They do not care the opinion of the players.
Just they need to make money from players to buy tokens and players.
This season I finished on 9th place and went LEVAL up, and I did not want that.I want to ask why I went the next level ?!?
They ****ed up my whole strategy and tactics for this season.

Their idea of fairness and im promoted from 12th place ??? MORONS!!!!!!!Attachment 74529

There definitely is work to be done with the game experience at the higher levels (45-50 +). This thread isn't the only one discussing the topic really. The issue pops up every now and then. We also get some tickets over at the support channel from some of the veterans in Top 11.

This whole thing is definitely on the radar here. I've been conversing with the devs about this, as it's my job to know everything that's going on in the forum.
The guys and gals have explained to me that this is something often brought up during their meetings. They're brainstorming for ideas that aim to help out with this whole situation at the top levels.

The devs do want to handle this matter and are already looking for ways to improve the overall experience of the veterans.
Every change brought to any game takes time to develop and to eventually get implemented. And yep, I very well know how frustrating the wait can be, because Top 11 ain't the only game I play. Patch day is always an eternity away... :/

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They do not care the opinion of the players.

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Btw it's kinda ludicrous to think that the devs of a game don't give 2 cents for what the community thinks. I've been in this industry long enough to know that without a community a game dies. Sure it will continue to exist... but as an empty shell, without the people who constantly chatter about it. Who constantly bring it up in their discussions and such.

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Originally Posted by Jeeves

There definitely is work to be done with the game experience at the higher levels (45-50 +). This thread isn't the only one discussing the topic really. The issue pops up every now and then. We also get some tickets over at the support channel from some of the veterans in Top 11.

This whole thing is definitely on the radar here. I've been conversing with the devs about this, as it's my job to know everything that's going on in the forum.
The guys and gals have explained to me that this is something often brought up during their meetings. They're brainstorming for ideas that aim to help out with this whole situation at the top levels.

The devs do want to handle this matter and are already looking for ways to improve the overall experience of the veterans.
Every change brought to any game takes time to develop and to eventually get implemented. And yep, I very well know how frustrating the wait can be, because Top 11 ain't the only game I play. Patch day is always an eternity away... :/



Btw it's kinda ludicrous to think that the devs of a game don't give 2 cents for what the community thinks. I've been in this industry long enough to know that without a community a game dies. Sure it will continue to exist... but as an empty shell, without the people who constantly chatter about it. Who constantly bring it up in their discussions and such.

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Is there any timeframe? for example the auction issue? other things to keep us hanging by?

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7-8 seasons like this, training maxed out at level 91 because that is only way to replace players :(

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Originally Posted by Jeeves

There definitely is work to be done with the game experience at the higher levels (45-50 +). This thread isn't the only one discussing the topic really. The issue pops up every now and then. We also get some tickets over at the support channel from some of the veterans in Top 11.

This whole thing is definitely on the radar here. I've been conversing with the devs about this, as it's my job to know everything that's going on in the forum.
The guys and gals have explained to me that this is something often brought up during their meetings. They're brainstorming for ideas that aim to help out with this whole situation at the top levels.

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I know from years of playing T11 that Nordeus is paying attention to customer feedback. There's no doubt about it.

I have a simple suggestion for fixing the higher levels: cap all players at a certain level. It will actually make the game very interesting to play, for several reasons. A good round level would be 50. Relegation from this top level would probably need to be implemented.

Hm, a level cap sounds good @Jult52. With relegations, as you mention, this could become like a competition or a feature of it's own.

Btw @Seanmeg I've edited the name of the thread to make it more easily relateable with the matter at hand and be obvious to who ever is browsing the General forum. :)

I think we should keep the discussion about this matter in this thread so everyone can easily find an outlet in which to share their opinion on this same topic, without creating new threads.

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Originally Posted by Jeeves

There definitely is work to be done with the game experience at the higher levels (45-50 +). This thread isn't the only one discussing the topic really. The issue pops up every now and then. We also get some tickets over at the support channel from some of the veterans in Top 11.

This whole thing is definitely on the radar here. I've been conversing with the devs about this, as it's my job to know everything that's going on in the forum.
The guys and gals have explained to me that this is something often brought up during their meetings. They're brainstorming for ideas that aim to help out with this whole situation at the top levels.

The devs do want to handle this matter and are already looking for ways to improve the overall experience of the veterans.
Every change brought to any game takes time to develop and to eventually get implemented. And yep, I very well know how frustrating the wait can be, because Top 11 ain't the only game I play. Patch day is always an eternity away... :/

Btw it's kinda ludicrous to think that the devs of a game don't give 2 cents for what the community thinks. I've been in this industry long enough to know that without a community a game dies. Sure it will continue to exist... but as an empty shell, without the people who constantly chatter about it. Who constantly bring it up in their discussions and such.

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They're brainstorming for ideas that aim to help out with this whole situation at the top levels.

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Well, it doesn't need a lot of brainstorming to fix the situation Gert Funck mentioned (about the lack of 5* players in the market).
This is a very old issue and the only thing it needs (leave outside levels/promotions or relegation) is to make a change in the mechanics of the game, so to produce 5* nordgen (generated players) like it happening in lv1.
I have a team at lv1 (deactivated there) and I can see the market full of nordgen every day.
I 'm not speaking about the young expensive fast trainers, just players with different ages from bot teams.
This sounds very logic to the ears of the T11 players and we wondering why the devs can't make some simple changes.

Another thing that gives the impression that the devs don't care for the opinion of the players, is that there is no communication.
I mean from all those problems or suggestions to make the game even better, we never heard a reason or an explanation why it cannot be done.
(Is it technical for example ? is it commercial reasons ? or what ? )
Why for example there cannot be 5* nordgen created for the higher levels ?
Why cannot be 2,3 or 5 servers to merged teams above a certain level ?
(specially now that there is no option to take over a team from the beginning).

You 're doing great job Jeeves but we need better communication.

* yes, that title is better :)

Re-open.

Discussion opened again, let's collect ideas in this matter for dev's.

Maybe the level cap sounds good for the high level players, but I am at level 7 and already tired of changing the whole team every season.

Why don't do a really football league instead divide in countries and such. Make a cap on the skills, but not only for the high level players, everyone who have the green must be able to train their team. And if Nordeus loose money on this, then make us buy equipment for the players with tokens instead, it is better to buy energi drinks for the team, then seach for new players every new season.

I've started a topic five seasons ago, but nothing has changed.

The last time I saw a different manager from the same six others, it was 10 seasons ago. That guy finished 8th and failed to advance. Since then, it has been the same seven human managers every single season, together with seven computer teams.

Seriously, the game is getting stale.

And don't tell me about friend lists. Just because two of us are in the same association and friended, doesn't mean the other five have to tag along every single damn season.

better merged

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I've started a topic five seasons ago, but nothing has changed.

The last time I saw a different manager from the same six others, it was 10 seasons ago. That guy finished 8th and failed to advance. Since then, it has been the same seven human managers every single season, together with seven computer teams.

Seriously, the game is getting stale.

And don't tell me about friend lists. Just because two of us are in the same association and friended, doesn't mean the other five have to tag along every single damn season.

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That kinda sums it up for me!

Groundhogs day!

Hi,does anyone experience no relegation in league? Now, I am in level 41 and there are all 14 teams in level 40 that are promoted to level 41. If so, there is no competitive in league. Champion league draw system is the same as last season ranging from level 41 to 45.

There are fewer teams at the higher level. My League is almost exactly the same as last season. My Champions League is ridiculous. Full of teams 3 levels higher. My first game later as shown:


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KFC Loella
Level 42
21 League Titles
6 Champions League
2 Cups

Yeah, there is no chance to get the title in CL.

merged
it's a general issue for the higher levels