The nationality of the player ... is it important ?

As I remember when I was in lower leagues , I used to find on the auction many players from countries that have a low ranking according to FIFA monthly report such as India , Ethiopia, Bangladesh ...

Now I am in level 29 which is approximately in the middle of each server's levels. I barely see players from such countries ...


According to my observation and experience, I started to learn that the nationality is a factor that plays a role in the overall game result ( otherwise why is it displayed) ?


What you should also keep in my mind is : Not all football players of the top 20 countries in real soccer life are legends or effective...

Example : Almost every teen in Brazil ( which has a population of around 175 million ) plays soccer ...but only a few 5 maybe % only become professionals
and out of the 5 % only 0.5 % become known and 0.1 become famous and fewer become legends


How is that related to TOP 11 according to my opinion ?

When you see a player ... check his nationality first .... and keep an eye of the monthly FIFA rankings ...
If you chose a German player for example ... it is not necessary that he would perform amazingly ... because Germany is home to around 80 million
and not every German player is effective as Franz Bekenbauer or Lothar Matheus or Jurgen Klinsmann were ....

So if you buy an Argentinian AMR or striker don't expect them to perform as Messi or Batistuta or Huguyen do

Here we talk about what is called " Hidden" abilities ...

Time , ratings of the player, the way you see he performs on 2D will tell you if he is good or not ...
usually 10 games are more than enough to give you an idea about his hidden abilities...

But don't forget that your way of training, the formation,, his moral , your other players ( chemistry and combination ) , your tactics, all are factors that help each player in your team to UNLOCK his hidden abilities ....

You will definitely learn how to decode the secrets of this game slowly and steadily as you improve and go in higher and higher leagues...

If you want success and fame , you must spend time to analyze , decode and decipher TOP 11 program cause everything is mathematically ( has a value based on numbers ) based


Good luck

Nationality on T11 is purely cosmetic. If I don't like a name or nationality I usually change it anyway and it makes no difference to that player's skills or abilities.


KFC Loella
Level 47

( otherwise why is it displayed)



Is displayed just because as the weight, age, etc... because that's a football game and is nice to have some info but believe me when I say that there are enough factors deciding the simulation, to add too the nationality or how tall is a player. This don't matter.

With the last market system that depended more of the real teams you saw players that many times came from the own academies of the teams that were managed, thats why we rarely see players from San Marino, but there are many Turks, German players, etc

Right now there's more variety because the players are created from a bot and added in waves to the market every few minutes.


Too we have to take into account that there are players with good internal proramming, and with bad, so, how more players you see from a nationality, more easy to find good players, because some good player between 20 or 30 should be there, and if you just can catch 1 from Slovenia, rarely wil be one good player. Too because between these players that were sold mostly were these that after test them did not perform well....


So, believe me when we say that is a pure myth. too the own engine will calibrate your team to have just few good players, so, you can't buy 11 players that scored 30 goals each the last season and see them doing the same. In this the team you manage will be unique.

It is not important. My best players came from South Korea, Azerbaijan, Thailand, Indonesia and so on.
Consider also that you can change it manually, if it influenced player's quality it would be a very bad idea.

Have you ever found SCOUT players on top Eleven from San Marino or Zimbabwe or East timor with a special ability or skill ?
no but you can find a Brazilian or German or Argentinian one with special skills and multiple positions...

Changing the "mother" nationality to another nationality for one token proves in a negative way that the programmers want you
to take this factor into consideration ...

The nationality has a percentage - maybe small percentage - from the overall percentage that is calculated in addition to the other factors
before the engine decides who will win the match ... :-)

To make a simple conclusion if my viewpoint , if you had to chose between two players with almost same stats, chose the one that has a
nationality better than the other according to the monthly or at least annually FIFA ranking...

I understand that it's difficult to convince everybody because to prove it requires a lot of data and a group of managers willing to study it
and share information about it.

Managers with old experience and those who are willing to spend tokens just to TRY many players with same position and stats from different
nationality will understand what I am saying...

That's my opinion and it's up to you to disregard the nationality as a factor taken by the engine when deciding the result of the matches

So if North Korea wins the world cup next year I know were I have to buy. Not bad theory :)

Well..i am not expecting to read some good stuff from a guy who is calling himself "one of the best" lol

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Originally Posted by khris

So if North Korea wins the world cup next year I know were I have to buy. Not bad theory :)

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I rarely see players from North Korea on the auction ... lol

He was scottish (his surname was similar in english that i translated to hungarian) and i sniped him from old transfermarket for 1 token or something :)

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AND he is my best player SO FAR!

i think Scotland and Hungary are not sitting in good positions @ fifa rankings ... ooh and i had/have players from "best national" team(s) but they are far behind him :)

ohh and i had an arabic GK and he was absolutely awesome even he porformed well @ 1 (YES ONE!) star... ;)

SO... ;);)

(hint: just cosmetic)

I wanted only to discuss the factor of nationality of players not the number of games and seasons they play,
because the more you keep a player the more he becomes effective and we know it by observation so you don't have to show off ...

if you really want to prove the opposite , i dare you to record BY VIDEO not screen shot how you win an awesome player with at least 2 positions and a special ability who hold a weak nationality in soccer according to FIFA ( from rank 50 to 190 )

btw Scottish ( also English Irish Welsh and Serbians) players are considered good because Nordeus has two branches in UK and Serbia :D


EXCEPTION

TOP 11 displays some awesome Israeli players in scout and auction list although israel is not strong in soccer at all ..
The number of good israeli players offered by top 11 is over normal... more than Saudis and Egyptians which are better at soccer ...
Anyhow this nationality can be labeled as an exception ...

The FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking - Ranking Table - FIFA.com

To those who are saying that the nationality doesn't matter, tell us

why top 11 displays a number of players from good countries at soccer far exceeding the number of players from bad countries at soccer ?
why don't they just display players from different and ALL nationalities at equal numbers ?

and if the nationality of players is related to the nationality of managers and not to the ranking of fifa ...

why for example I never see players even with 3 stars from my country Lebanon although there are hundreds if not thousands of managers from Lebanon and I know at least 3 of them in my server who are always league winners ?!?!!

and why Palestine which is recognized by fifa as a country is not recognized by Nordeus ?

Good analysis USARABAT.
Some questions now :

1) Do you believe that if we rename a player, changing his nationality too, this has also some affection , triggering something hidden ?
2) Playing 42 seasons so far, I can say I had two periods (like Picasso :rolleyes: ). Renaming the players of the basic squad as Brazilian stars and legends and the 2nd period after break of 4-5 seasons, making a Dutch team.
https://forum.topeleven.com/team-sho...am-greece.html
https://forum.topeleven.com/team-sho...ik-oranie.html

Is this has some effect ? (as I had a very successful career
or that all the players are from the same country ?

3) I have a facebook team so when I see that tomorrow i 'll have 2 new academy players, switch my nationality and instead of Greek players, get Germans or Spanish will it work ?
i mean about the tokens academy player, not the 0T - he is useless anyway.

4) Khris has an Albanian player (:rolleyes: ). i don't care much bout his team but w are together in the same asso, trying to survive for third time at platinum.
What do you suggest ?
Rename him ? Sell him ? Bench him for asso games and take a loan one of my Dutch player ?

5) At old times I was in a GR T11 fb group and heard that myth about Serbian players.
i mean, reading some posts "look what I got, a young nordgen Serbian player".
Now of course nordeus is a multinational company so don't know if continues but
You do believe that is more than a myth ?

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

4) Khris has an Albanian player (:rolleyes: ).

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Don't put my Albanian boy in that xD You are a evil person Nik lol

I am not very sure about the effects of changing the nationality because I have done it only few times. I think that the mother nationality of the player defines his abilities. changing it doesn't increase or decrease these abilities that were defined by the system at the time the player was invented. (This opinion is based on 5 trials to change nationality only).

Playing 42 seasons should make you more experienced than me unless you tank a lot however I would like to hear your observations regarding the changing of nationality since you have do it ... so what do you think ?

Regarding changing your nationality as a manager which of course changes the nationality of the youth academy , does it affect the abilities of your youth players ?
i have no data to answer and i think most of us don't because most managers don't use youth players in their team since they are below the average level and tend to sell them or keep them on the benches just for the training bonus...

Regarding the Serbian / Irish/ Scottish / English and Welsh players ... I'm saying they are in general good players and this opinion is based on my experience with such nationalities. Is this related to Nordeus location ? I think so because its two branches are in UK and Serbia so it's employees are from there and it would be absurd if they
don't push the abilities of players holding their nationality :D

I had bad experience with Indonesian / Thai / Egyptian / Saudi / Ethipian players to name few of weak nationalities that i tried and I learned not buy them even if they were above 90% and even at young ages because they let me down many times...

Now I only chose players from the top 20 countries according to FIFA ranking from Auction list.

If your name your player Messi he won't become any better.

Nik you won't like my team then lol

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Originally Posted by USARABAT

The FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking - Ranking Table - FIFA.com

To those who are saying that the nationality doesn't matter, tell us

why top 11 displays a number of players from good countries at soccer far exceeding the number of players from bad countries at soccer ?
why don't they just display players from different and ALL nationalities at equal numbers ?

and if the nationality of players is related to the nationality of managers and not to the ranking of fifa ...

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Politics aside I think there are more players based on the numbers of players from the respective countries. I also think some sort of average number of players is based on the actual number that play in big leagues. Take Africa, there are many Nigerians, Cameroonians Ghana etc beaause there are more professional players from these countries in real life then lets say Chad or Zimbabwe. Same from South America mostly Argentina, Brazil, Chile Uruguay. The USA is a large country yet I rarely see any. The naming is also random but based a lot of times on real players like "Gabriel Iniesta "Loic Ribery" etc etc.

I like this thread please keep going. Its amaze me how people go to such extend analizing this game. Good stuff Good laugh.

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Originally Posted by USARABAT

I wanted only to discuss the factor of nationality of players not the number of games and seasons they play,
because the more you keep a player the more he becomes effective and we know it by observation so you don't have to show off ...

if you really want to prove the opposite , i dare you to record BY VIDEO not screen shot how you win an awesome player with at least 2 positions and a special ability who hold a weak nationality in soccer according to FIFA ( from rank 50 to 190 )

btw Scottish ( also English Irish Welsh and Serbians) players are considered good because Nordeus has two branches in UK and Serbia :D


EXCEPTION

TOP 11 displays some awesome Israeli players in scout and auction list although israel is not strong in soccer at all ..
The number of good israeli players offered by top 11 is over normal... more than Saudis and Egyptians which are better at soccer ...
Anyhow this nationality can be labeled as an exception ...

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First: My player that i showed you WAS awesome in first season too! Second: You are talking like a heavy influenced conteo/conspiracy theory beleiver one.

edit: go and visit my topic (Form believer in my signature) and check my (i think) kuwaiti GK (retired). I kept him because he had good form from his 1st season and he kept that good form later with 1* (practicly he was MINUS 6-7-8*

tldr: i belive in programmed good form rather than nationality coz nationality just pure cosmetic! :)