18 years old with 1% abilities?

[nikolgiorgos]

Ive been mucking around with this ..
Buy at level 4 train to five star and then sell to level 6 then train...
Its pretty simple btw...the only difficulty is having teams similar in levels on the same server

Edit: I slipped up in the training at level 6 and used Skill drill and it % upped the heading ability which I did not mean to do .
One thing I will say if you are really going for a team of these guys you need plenty green packs and a lot of free time.

that's a different case @bunzo than power-training a player from 3* to 5* multiple times and finally leave him in that quality.
Greens are free, of course needs time but considering that top100 asso groups are from countries like Vietnam, Indonesia, Turkey, where the salaries are 100-300$ per month, it's not so bad idea to spend that time for making a high lv platinum group and sell it with that price

[mcdoomer]

that's a different case @bunzo than power-training a player from 3* to 5* multiple times and finally leave him in that quality.
Greens are free, of course needs time but considering that top100 asso groups are from countries like Vietnam, Indonesia, Turkey, where the salaries are 100-300$ per month, it's not so bad idea to spend that time for making a high lv platinum group and sell it with that price

You mentioned something interesting, mate. Considering the precedent of people being reported trying to sell their teams on Facebook, many of those countries probably have communities that farm teams to sell. If it happens in most other online games, most notoriously was "a thing" on World of Warcraft for many years, its not outlandish to think some of those teams were just sold to others.

Again, its my firm belief all these exploits detract players in a greater scale than the activity needed to manipulate generates revenue to Nordeus. But... not my company.

[Spartan117]

Anyone, please explain this? Because Nordeus not answer my ticket. How my competitor at league, same level with me, get that mutant player? Same level 9.

* Edited by Nik
This is something that some managers who have groups in top100 associations do.
They have 4-5 accounts in the same server, with 2-3 levels difference.
They buy with team A, one 3* player 18 y.o., train him till 5* -6* in his white skills and sell him direct to their team B .
Team B, buy him as 3* player and doing the same, selling him to team C doing the same procedure.
All those teams are staying in the same level, farming greens and doing the same.
Teams A,B,C are "factories" for the final team D, which is using those players only in asso games or else those players gonna loose this "balance" and the advantage- glitch of the game calculations .
So the asso team/group has super-performers and easy draw vs 5* groups for the next 15 seasons and keep staying in top100.
You can read a comment of such a player at post #49 here
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...ilities-5.html
Last edited by nikolgiorgos; 11 Hours A

[agusbandung11]

My final question,

1. is it illegal or legal?
2. Nordeus care or not about this?

[Ποσιδονας]

I don’t see what they can answer except something typical like – We are aware of this situation and the devs team is looking for solving it in some future update.

All those things are legit and I don’t think it bothers much nordeus.
Someone can create and have 50 TE accounts (which is good for marketing, presenting high numbers of users), those teams doing a massive vids farming every day (which is also an income for nordeus) and those few teams are a challenge for all the other common players which are the rest 99% of players all over the world.
Most of them are not even aware of what is happening there .
How many regular and active members has this forum, 1000 ? 2.000 ?
Few more thousands from some TE fb groups and that’s it.
Personally I don’t mind of that issue as those mutants are used only in Platinum asso tournaments and my group decided to stay and play for fun only in Gold.

As solution I can see two ways.
One is to change the whole training system – Drills/skills/white-grey skills/ min-max % prices/ effect in game calculations.
Back on the roots of TE 2014.

The other solution is to demolish the associations ranking system.
Platinum and other divisions, top100, high token rewards.
Just playing with asso groups and get a weekly or monthly small reward.
Top 100 exhibition is the best place for those tricksters to show of or advertising their "product" for selling.

both are painfull so don't expect much @agusbandung11

[nikolgiorgos]

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The other solution is to demolish the associations ranking system.
Platinum and other divisions, top100, high token rewards.
Just playing with asso groups and get a weekly or monthly small reward.
Top 100 exhibition is the best place for those tricksters to show of or advertising their "product" for selling.

I agree with that instead of some changes because with that, we might loose some good feature as it happened in old times (missing the take-over a lower lv club and the loans option).

As hackers are "smarter" and more capable than programmers (because they have no rules or ethical limits) the TE tricksters will find new tricks as they are real players of TE (instead of devs) and they 're hanging around in places were other TE players are - like the TE fb groups.
Anyway, nordeus doesn't have enough stuff to play Police and Thieves.

But removing the Top 100 List and merging the Platinum & Gold 1, in a big division with 50 tokens price and no extra, I don't think there is any motive left for tricksters.

[lalexrus]

I agree with that instead of some changes because with that, we might loose some good feature as it happened in old times (missing the take-over a lower lv club and the loans option).

As hackers are "smarter" and more capable than programmers (because they have no rules or ethical limits) the TE tricksters will find new tricks as they are real players of TE (instead of devs) and they 're hanging around in places were other TE players are - like the TE fb groups.
Anyway, nordeus doesn't have enough stuff to play Police and Thieves.

But removing the Top 100 List and merging the Platinum & Gold 1, in a big division with 50 tokens price and no extra, I don't think there is any motive left for tricksters.

1. study the game before writing about ethics, you have mixed in a bunch of people and horses do not understand the principles of training players
2.ou are not a strategist or a business owner, you should understand that if you remove top100, then 99% of active managers will not need this game (interest will be lost) - accordingly, with such an approach, Nordeus will lose money. so before you think and think 100 times
3. instead of idiotic suggestions that are usually limited only by the offenses of the short-sighted managers, it would be better to offer to limit the auction for the time of matches of associations and the change of the main staff (with the exception of substitutions) to the matches of the associations - as the frauds of managers with the teams rating are simply amazing - neither in gold nor in platinum Division there is almost no association that would not have used various frauds (and this even in top100 does not need to look)

PS What the hell are the hackers? what are you talking about? as far as I know, no one has hacked, in contrast to the Vietnamese style of training players (when practicing a couple of skills in psychophysics) - there are no other cases of exploiting the flaws of the game (and even this case the developers have not corrected to the end - see how the Vietnamese are rocking). And even this style of training is not hacking - it's just an experiment with the training of players that led to a certain positive result.

[Ποσιδονας]

1. study the game before writing about ethics, you have mixed in a bunch of people and horses do not understand the principles of training players
2.ou are not a strategist or a business owner, you should understand that if you remove top100, then 99% of active managers will not need this game (interest will be lost) - accordingly, with such an approach, Nordeus will lose money. so before you think and think 100 times
3. instead of idiotic suggestions that are usually limited only by the offenses of the short-sighted managers, it would be better to offer to limit the auction for the time of matches of associations and the change of the main staff (with the exception of substitutions) to the matches of the associations - as the machinations of managers with the teams rating are simply amazing - neither in gold nor in platinum Division there is almost no association that would not have used various frauds (and this even in top100 does not need to look)

PS What the hell are the hackers? what are you talking about? as far as I know, no one has hacked, in contrast to the Vietnamese style of training players (when practicing a couple of skills in psychophysics) - there are no other cases of exploiting the flaws of the game (and even this case the developers have not corrected to the end - see how the Vietnamese are rocking). And even this style of training is not hacking - it's just an experiment with the training of players that led to a certain positive result.

Top 100 list teams discourage the managers - at least those who know how the game (and the tricks) are working .
My and my asso mates decided not to promote in platinum because it's boring to play almost every weekend with a group that drops quality and buying after the draw, to use mutants or to have half-teams super-tankers with 9* players and the other half new 3* teams.

My group never tried to use any kind of tricks.
We only like to play vs same quality active managers.


* don't tell me that you are one of those Top 20 Russians with mutants ?
lol

[lalexrus]

Top 100 list teams discourage the managers - at least those who know how the game (and the tricks) are working .
My and my asso mates decided not to promote in platinum because it's boring to play almost every weekend with a group that drops quality and buying after the draw, to use mutants or to have half-teams super-tankers with 9* players and the other half new 3* teams.*skip*
* don't tell me that you are one of those Top 20 Russians with mutants ?
lol

I play in the association which is now top-12 and this association until recently had no farms at all and even now only one team (mine) has a farm for only 2 seasons. We have achieved this place absolutely without farms. That's why I write - do not give arguments that you can not get into platinum or top 100 because of farmers. It is enough to be able to properly train players and have the desire to move forward. (Of course, more time is needed!)

[lalexrus]

My and my asso mates decided not to promote in platinum because it's boring to play almost every weekend with a group that drops quality and buying after the draw, to use mutants or to have half-teams super-tankers with 9* players and the other half new 3* teams.

In order to eliminate the change in the rating after the draw (which is done by the vast majority of managers and associations), it is enough to prohibit in any form the purchase and sale of players (auction and negotiations) from the draw date and until the end of the association tournament (usually Friday-Sunday). do not invent anything else.