Can some one explain this???

I have attached bellow a picture of a player from the number 1 association . All the players are like that .
The general quality of the player is 79 . However , when you make the calculation the quality is much bigger .

340 + 152 + 1 = 493 : 3 = 164,3 .

So the general quality of the player should show 164,3 !!!

I also have a few players with 1% attributes , but their quality is calculated correctly .
Why in this case is not ? Is it because of the upselling ??? In this case I don't find it fair at all .
This team has all the players like this . He has a team with general quality of over 160 which is calculated around 80% !!!
How can this be fair???Attachment 95493

Maybe we can get an answer from admins about how player's quality is calculated !

This player was trained with the highlighted skills only then sold to 5/6 lvl above through 2 managers. all 3 accounts belong to the same managers cost him about 800 rests

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Originally Posted by Anarcho

This player was trained with the highlighted skills only then sold to 5/6 lvl above through 2 managers. all 3 accounts belong to the same managers cost him about 800 rests

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I know this . The question is why the quality is not calculated correctly?

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Originally Posted by Rebelsunited

I know this . The question is why the quality is not calculated correctly?

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What we see is not the actual quality anyway 4 all players, so get over it and yes it's FAIR coz to get player like that you need about 3 account in different levels, farming, train and level up all together

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Originally Posted by Anarcho

What we see is not the actual quality anyway 4 all players, so get over it and yes it's FAIR coz to get player like that you need about 3 account in different levels, farming, train and level up all together

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How can you say this is fair??? I also invest rests in powertraining players , but their quality is displayed correctly . I also train the highlighted skills but the quality is shown correctly . If this is a bug of the game it should be fixed !

Its basics of maths. My english is too bad to explain it correctly, but those displayed 1% are not the same 1%. Once the value becomes it, its not the bottom, when you promote (or do upselling like this asso team) it falls "under 1%" but "1" still displayed. (So this percentage system is sort of fake, not the one we all know)
Therefore you have to calculate the absolute values for the average power, not the relative. After that you could translate it back to "%"

player quality -> (all skills) divide by 15

means for the player above ^^
1% + 1% + 1% + 1% + 1% = 5% Defence skills
340% + 344%+ 340%+ 340%+ 340% = 1704% Offensiv skills
344% + 10%+ 1% + 340%+ 340% = 1039 % Phyical skills

now -> 5% Def + 1704% Off + 1039% Phy. = 2748 %

final -> 2748% / 15 skills = 183,2 %

183,2% so indeed there is something wrong with this player...

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Ok, I see now, the absolute values are not shown for asso teams.
Again, you cannot just calculate with relative values (%).
But there is no bug or fake.

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Originally Posted by Kto

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Ok, I see now, the absolute values are not shown for asso teams.
Again, you cannot just calculate with relative values (%).
But there is no bug or fake.

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As far as I know in associations all see the player's quality like the manager of the team see it . So this manager has this player with 79% general quality .
I'm I missing something here?

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Originally Posted by Rebelsunited

As far as I know in associations all see the player's quality like the manager of the team see it . So this manager has this player with 79% general quality .
I'm I missing something here?

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Do you know about relative and absolute quality?
1% is not actually 1%, it's -55% shown as 1%. You can't calculate the average relative quality because of that, you need to do it with absolute quality and then convert it back to relative.
Kto has pretty much answered it.

Well, you still miss what I repeated twice: forget % values if you want an average power. Just forget it.
For you own and non-asso teams you see relative (%) and absolute (for example 112,8) values for each of three columns (defence, attack, physics).
For asso teams you see only %, therefore you cannot calculate with absolute values, therefore you cannot proof the overall value.
But it is calculated by the algorhytm correctly I'm sure, I see no sence for the developers to manipulate those calculations (dont see how as well), no option for the teams to do so.
Well, I might explain it not as good, but I'm really done for this thread, its too obvious

I am like a sour math prof lol

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Originally Posted by Rebelsunited

As far as I know in associations all see the player's quality like the manager of the team see it . So this manager has this player with 79% general quality .
I'm I missing something here?

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Dude I've faced associations like this twice in the last 3 tournaments and I got humiliated these players are extremely difficult to stop. It's not bad to have players with 1% attributes I do have some players like that, but I got them through 'legal' means that's by training only white skills for several seasons.

However it's impossible for an 18yo or a 19yo to have 1% grey skills unless he uses the upselling trick which is clearly against the rules of the game. You can read through the game rules it's written there somewhere I don't know why the developers have done nothing to curb these cheating associations

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Originally Posted by Spartan117

Dude I've faced associations like this twice in the last 3 tournaments and I got humiliated these players are extremely difficult to stop. It's not bad to have players with 1% attributes I do have some players like that, but I got them through 'legal' means that's by training only white skills for several seasons.

However it's impossible for an 18yo or a 19yo to have 1% grey skills unless he uses the upselling trick which is clearly against the rules of the game. You can read through the game rules it's written there somewhere I don't know why the developers have done nothing to curb these cheating associations

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They should make a new rule . The players bought from negotiations must be kept at least 1 season before they can be sold .

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Originally Posted by Rebelsunited

They should make a new rule . The players bought from negotiations must be kept at least 1 season before they can be sold .

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I wish they could and do more......but this trick is too expensive for the dev. Its so obvious for all to see in the Top Asso ranking, is Nordeus blind?
They wont stop anything that is profitable to them.They keep introducing the sale of player daily recommended, recommended, nego, tm and via the challenge for crazy token amount.

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I just receive an official answer from Support . They said that the reason behind this difference in quality calculation is that the defensive skills are not 1 as shown there but in fact they are negative , very much negative , and that's why the general quality is dragged down . Now my next question is how the game determine a player's performance that has negative skills? I bet the negative skills are calculated as 1% when it comes to player's performance . So when it comes to establish the general quality the engine takes into the equation the negative skills but when it comes to performance it doesn't !

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Originally Posted by Rebelsunited

They said that the reason behind this difference in quality calculation is that the defensive skills are not 1 as shown there but in fact they are negative , very much negative , and that's why the general quality is dragged down.

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Wow, no one expected that.

For me an absurd suggestion, but the only answer you could trust (just a little bit) would be again from support. For us there is no way to test this.