Really Really boring!

Hi all.

I am really pissed of one thingin T11...(many others too)

I am right now level 29...and I challenge in cup or Champions League teams from upper level (which means n+1), I contacted the support to explain them the situation, but they told me that they gather teams from the same level and which seems to have the same skills.
BUT! It's been 5-6 seasons streak that I challenge some teams which are 125-130%, when I am 110% max!! Sometimes you create a big surprise, or you resist to only lose by 2 goals, but it's very rare!
WHY? why some teams have to challenge teams from upper divisions??? I think there are enough teams from the same level, with the same skills, to not mixt 2 levels!!
And, if so, why should I always be the weak team? Why shouldn't they mixt my level with the lower level?
It's nonsense; and kill motivation.

I think I'm going to have a look at other football manager games, in order to see if the grass is greener on the other side of the fence....

brah i totally agree with you i've just got kicked out of CUP by a +1 lvl from me, and thats unfair pz solve this we want play at same lvl so the game is fair play game
no one has any advantage

You, guys, are such whiners.
The rule about +1 level is not a bug, it's a feature. There is nothing to solve.
If you want to win trophies, then manipulate the draw. If you want to play interesting and difficult game, then stop crying and play. Dammit.

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Originally Posted by Toxcatl

You, guys, are such whiners.
The rule about +1 level is not a bug, it's a feature. There is nothing to solve.
If you want to win trophies, then manipulate the draw. If you want to play interesting and difficult game, then stop crying and play. Dammit.

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Hey, no life, I win trophies ok? if you admit this system is fair and quite normal, you can say it, but you have to show a little bit more respect to us.
We are not whiners, cryers or so, calm down man...
I suppose you must be one of the people taking advantage of your level lol
If you think it's fair, ok, that's your way of thinking, but do not come here and insult people, who do not have the same feeling as you....

Moreover, I did not say it's a bug, learn how to read....T11 is the only game doing this, do not say it's normal....

I am agree with Toxcatl . Your thread is the **** th style of thread i am fed up to read. You really think it will change something ???
The answer is absolutly nothing !
So , as you wrote it , try another game .this one doesn't suit you at all because you seem to be angry with it ...

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Originally Posted by Kaizer Franz

You really think it will change something ???
The answer is absolutly nothing !

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For sure, anybody won't do anything, if nobody says when there is something unusual, which alterates the game.
You just look like sheeps who have no hope, and just accept anything without complaining. It's ridiculous.
Don't read my topic if you think it's a ****, I won't read your stupid post though...

Just a thing...I contacted the support about that some weeks ago, they told me to post in order to open the subject....I should have kept it for me, I thought it was possible to discuss about implausibilities...

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Originally Posted by Lamouette17

Just a thing...I contacted the support about that some weeks ago, they told me to post in order to open the subject....I should have kept it for me, I thought it was possible to discuss about implausibilities...

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I complained to support about this issue about 10 seasons ago when I continously played in +1 level competitions from level 4-13 they gave their usual explanation that they need more lower level managers fill up higher level competitions in some servers. The only advantage they could give me was that I earn more competition price from playing in higher level competitions which is utterly ridiculous.

So I resorted to manipulating the draw and I won 6 trebles and a league and cup double in a row. but none felt sweeter than when I managed a league and champions League double playing against +1 level managers.

So now I'm back playing against higher level managers this season and I've kicked their ass! I'm still on course to win my first treble playing in higher level tournaments and frankly I derive more pleasure in winning higher level managers.

When I started to play Top Eleven and I was level 2,3,4,10, etc I had to play opponents with 10,20 levels over me so think of that first.

Anyway, thanks for writing. Can't argue much with you except with CUP. Cup is not a fair challenge. Imagine any CUP in the world, teams from tier 1 have to play with teams from tiers 4,5 or more so yea, CUP isn't a fair competition so do not except for a fair one.

Regarding +1 level in League and CL I do not agree as well when is done on purpose by them.

Mate i think it's the other way around. It's more fun to see higher level teams to get beaten by lower teams. That's why I never manipulate things during end season. I love beating them hard. 😂

Thanks for your constructive and interesting posts guys.
What do you mean by "manipulating the draw"?
Losing Game?
Is there someone who can witness the other position: being the upper level, do you appreciate this?

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Originally Posted by Lamouette17

Thanks for your constructive and interesting posts guys.
What do you mean by "manipulating the draw"?
Losing Game?
Is there someone who can witness the other position: being the upper level, do you appreciate this?

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What about doing this to be placed with teams same lvl as you;

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Originally Posted by Lamouette17

Thanks for your constructive and interesting posts guys.
What do you mean by "manipulating the draw"?
Losing Game?
Is there someone who can witness the other position: being the upper level, do you appreciate this?

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When I manipulate the draw I get drawn against equal level managers so it levels the playing field. But if you overdo it you can get into - 1 level competitions.

You manipulate the draw by selling off some of your players and replacing them with a couple of 1 star players which you will have to accumulate over time to reduce your total quality at the end of the season. The draw is made according to the strength of your best 14 players so reducing the quality of your best 14 to about 95% will get you into a same level competition

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Originally Posted by Spartan117

When I manipulate the draw I get drawn against equal level managers so it levels the playing field. But if you overdo it you can get into - 1 level competitions.

You manipulate the draw by selling off some of your players and replacing them with a couple of 1 star players which you will have to accumulate over time to reduce your total quality at the end of the season. The draw is made according to the strength of your best 14 players so reducing the quality of your best 14 to about 95% will get you into a same level competition

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Ah ok, thanks for the piece of information, well, do not really want to do this.
But why are there some teams with 125% in cup, they should only bé 110%, no? And simply, why mixing levels, they only have to create their cups with same levels, why doing simply when you can make it harder...

Imo it's really simple why Nordeus is doing this-they want you to open your wallet,if,at the beginning of a new season your average team quality is ,let's say,over 110% most probably you'll have +1 lvl opponents in champions league&cup and it's sure that some of them will be over 120% and if you are "lucky" you'll have some tankers with up to 180% quality.
Yes,you can beat +1lvl team +10%,20%,30% even more than this%,especially now when a well trained 110% quality team is stronger than a 150% quality tanker team (heavy tanker) but if i have other options, i will use them,if they don't want to make it fair,i will do it :]

since my 2nd season until now, all my cup and champion league is drawn with +1 level, but i have no problem to beat them all,

because i analyse my opponent critically before the match, especially the stronger opponent, i will identify their weak spot either in flank or center and i will focus my counter attack there,

i will watch the live match patiently and once i saw one of their defenders rating turn lower than 6.5, they will totally fcuk up because i will focus my long pass counter there and pack my forward player there.

i never whining about this.. and i manage to win almost all the +1 cup and +1 champion league in those seasons.. why you cant?

At the beginning of a new Season, m'y team is average 95%, I can win against +1, but some of them are "unplayable" because all players are 7 stars or more when m'y best is 7, and only one. That's more those teams which should bé reunified I think

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Originally Posted by Lamouette17

Hi all.

I am really pissed of one thingin T11...(many others too)

I am right now level 29...and I challenge in cup or Champions League teams from upper level (which means n+1), I contacted the support to explain them the situation, but they told me that they gather teams from the same level and which seems to have the same skills.
BUT! It's been 5-6 seasons streak that I challenge some teams which are 125-130%, when I am 110% max!! Sometimes you create a big surprise, or you resist to only lose by 2 goals, but it's very rare!
WHY? why some teams have to challenge teams from upper divisions??? I think there are enough teams from the same level, with the same skills, to not mixt 2 levels!!
And, if so, why should I always be the weak team? Why shouldn't they mixt my level with the lower level?
It's nonsense; and kill motivation.

I think I'm going to have a look at other football manager games, in order to see if the grass is greener on the other side of the fence....

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15% gap is no that much

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Originally Posted by Vernie83

15% gap is no that much

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Well I prefer 15% more than less. 😉

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Originally Posted by Lamouette17

Well I prefer 15% more than less. 😉

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and i prefer beating up 15% stronger than 15% weaker

because the true meaning of "boring" is beating up weak opponent

I do better playing in a +1 Level Champions League than I do in a same Level one... which is good because I've only played in a same Level CL twice in the past 17 seasons (the R16 and one of the QFs in the table in my sigblock)...

I never got the point whit this level complaining (really dislike this sort of whiney opener, but try see it constructive). Last ~8 seasons I play at +1 and dont see any difference to the same lvl cups before: there are teams around which have nearly my quality (+/- 15 % plus some very weak at first round cup).
More than this, in my cl and cup competitions mostly dominate my team and few more "uplevelers". The same situation was, as my team had lower % and played at original level: the toughest opponents were from -1lvl.

The intention of such a draw is to bring similar q together, no? I also dont agree, that making more money is the intention (well it is generally in the pure existence of the game). If MY team has a strong draw and set against higher q teams, then in reverse they have a weak draw and dont have to spend anything more.
If I decide or just cannot farm greens, I could just slide into -1, BUT again probably it wouldnt make any difference or become even harder when meeting there draw manipulators.

There are more important things that can be improved .
For example to be able to watch every game , changing the game's time without 2 tokens or giving 2 tokens to the other manager for a convenient away time for both.
Less random factors (super GKs, 65-35 bp with same shots, shot efficiency 10%, no red card effect, ...)
More effect of formation, orders, special abilities, skills.

One star, 20% q dif. isn't a big deal.

But playing vs many weaker teams reduce a lot the troll effect ;)

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Originally Posted by Lamouette17

Well I prefer 15% more than less. 😉

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Indeed. But I prefer 40 % stronger. There is very few chances of losing. With 15% can go both ways

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

There are more important things that can be improved .
For example to be able to watch every game , changing the game's time without 2 tokens or giving 2 tokens to the other manager for a convenient away time for both.
Less random factors (super GKs, 65-35 bp with same shots, shot efficiency 10%, no red card effect, ...)
More effect of formation, orders, special abilities, skills.

One star, 20% q dif. isn't a big deal.

But playing vs many weaker teams reduce a lot the troll effect ;)

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I rather agree what you say, but I must admit that we do not really have a lot of information concerning changes...they only bring us to our wallet, to participate to their UK, German challenges, that do not really help the most of us...but only a few..