This is not a rant, just me looking for answers.

[SimplySimon]

mates we are complaining about the same things many months now. as i have allready wrote to older threads i believe that the problem is that the results are predetermined before they games start. thats probably the reason that you cannot do changes the last 3 minutes before the match. think about it. how can they solve these bugs if the engine decides the result in advance? so there is another question. why they do not change this and let the results be decided during the match. probably they can't handle the data because of the requirements.

Another conspiracy theory. Seriously? If you don't believe that you can influence the result of a match, why are you bothering to play at all? Some elements of how a game will play out will be influenced by what happens before it starts, this is the same IRL - formation, fitness, form etc.

BUT, changing formations, tactics, substitutions during the game do affect play, because otherwise how would a sub get injured/sent off/score a goal if that was all decided before the start?

[gkassimis]

Another conspiracy theory. Seriously? If you don't believe that you can influence the result of a match, why are you bothering to play at all? Some elements of how a game will play out will be influenced by what happens before it starts, this is the same IRL - formation, fitness, form etc.

BUT, changing formations, tactics, substitutions during the game do affect play, because otherwise how would a sub get injured/sent off/score a goal if that was all decided before the start?

rookie the fact that there are many crap things about this game doesn't mean that the game is crap. i find very interesting thigs about it thats why i am still playing. i try to set up my team properly before the game begins but i have no illusions that i can change the course of it if something goes ugly

[SimplySimon]

rookie

I love to be patronised :-)

If you think the results are pre-determined, then just do the other things in the game like training and transfers and don't worry about watching the matches - because if what is going to happen will happen anyway, you don't even need the possession bonus

Whatever the game is like, it's like that for every player

I guess I'm playing devil's advocate a bit with some of these complaining threads because I think there is so much right about this game - and I've played 1000s of hours on different manager games over 20 years

Of course if people want to vent a bit then I guess hitting up the forum can help. Here's mine:

My star midfielder, who's got 10 goals in 5 league games this season, broke his leg this morning in a game I couldn't watch and is out for 10 days FFS!

[gkassimis]

I love to be patronised :-)

If you think the results are pre-determined, then just do the other things in the game like training and transfers and don't worry about watching the matches - because if what is going to happen will happen anyway, you don't even need the possession bonus

Whatever the game is like, it's like that for every player

I guess I'm playing devil's advocate a bit with some of these complaining threads because I think there is so much right about this game - and I've played 1000s of hours on different manager games over 20 years

Of course if people want to vent a bit then I guess hitting up the forum can help. Here's mine:

My star midfielder, who's got 10 goals in 5 league games this season, broke his leg this morning in a game I couldn't watch and is out for 10 days FFS!

i am 37 yo. i started playing football manager games about at 1992. i remember my first was a primitive game called 1-0. since then i have played almost every fm game i had the chance to find. the rookie thing is a fact. you play 2 months while i play 8. i had the chance to read many threads from the old forum which changed at december. there you could read very interesting things from managers level 20-30. they wrote about predetermined games, the crazy results each seasons last week, how token buyers have more unlucky incidents etc