This need to be clarified from Nordeus ( AML AMR strange position on the field )

Hi all i think that Nordeus need to clarify this, is this a bug ? or a legit role ?

actually i'm playing this formation
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If you noticed i moved up the AMR. and this happens
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We can see him play exactly like a MC , but not a static MC because he goes up and down more than them, during defensive phase sometimes act like a DMC , and during attack he act like a False 9 / Trequartista /Second striker (amc ) like this

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A brilliant pass from the playmaker (21) the strange AMR move up through the middle and dribble 2 players while the 2 st open up space for him and he scored.

Time ago i played other football managing games and in AMR position i remeber that there are 2 main roles : the winger an the Inside foward.
The Winger stay wide and run down the flank and cross, the insie foward start from a wide position and cut inside the box and shoot ( Like Robben style )

I searched the net a lot and i found this

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But this was the old inside foward role and position during the 50s- 60s and then they were replaced by a new role called "Mezzala" , a MC that attack the space between the ST and the winger , this space is called "half space"( look images below to understand )
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So after this poem :D Nordeus i ask you, can clarify this AMR/L foward position ? and i also ask the forum members , what are your thoughts ?

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Its the same since that new formation layout appeared. And i still cant understand is it fine that when you move up the pitch aml/amr - he start to play in the middle or not. Or it is just visual thing that cant be fixed almost for a year.

There is another thread about how (wrong) the wingers are moving.
Was it yours @ IImaestroII ?

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Or it is just visual thing that cant be fixed almost for a year.

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That's a big truth. Are all those just illusions ?
In one game I was playing and my ST scored from the box.
At the same time, watching that game from my other team, I saw that player scoring from a F-K.
lol

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

There is another thread about how (wrong) the wingers are moving.
Was it yours @ IImaestroII ?

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Yes :) but i never got a reply from a admin about this and i don't know why

You use what I call a hybrid formation (ML and then a AMR, only one winger per line to compensate)...


We've seen since the live animations were introduced stuffs like this.. not sure in how many formations... maybe in all cases this can occur or can be a glitch just in some cases...

Interesting see the DR covering the AMR space and a ML as ST.... this is more or less normal when the lines more and the game chose "who" attacks and where...
I would swear that this is related with the internal role of that particular player... something happens..


I would like to see, what occur if you, try to switch the MC and the AMR, and too, I would like to see in the club page what formation actually is shown as used by you by the game, I use a 4-2-3-1 but it say 4-5-1.... so?... what says actually? 4-3-3? 4-6¿? lol 4-4-2? ....

It can be too a fail in the positional order assignation list in few cases... now it came to my mind that the team list if you check it out show the players left to right but the DCs are switched, 1st appear the right dc and then the left one... so, maybe theres something to analyze there...

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Originally Posted by khris

You use what I call a hybrid formation (ML and then a AMR, only one winger per line to compensate)...


We've seen since the live animations were introduced stuffs like this.. not sure in how many formations... maybe in all cases this can occur or can be a glitch just in some cases...

Interesting see the DR covering the AMR space and a ML as ST.... this is more or less normal when the lines more and the game chose "who" attacks and where...
I would swear that this is related with the internal role of that particular player... something happens..

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My idea time ago was , is a inside foward that start wide and cut in and give space for the fullback/wingback ( DR ) to overlap ( thats why you see the DR there ), maybe the animation can't show this "movement " and start already with the aml/r already inside.

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Originally Posted by khris

I would like to see, what occur if you, try to switch the MC and the AMR, and too, I would like to see in the club page what formation actually is shown as used by you by the game, I use a 4-2-3-1 but it say 4-5-1.... so?... what says actually? 4-3-3? 4-6¿? lol 4-4-2? ....

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Regarding this the formation page use this strata system

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For example this is a 23113

Mine is a 3133

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Originally Posted by IImaestroII

Yes :) but i never got a reply from a admin about this and i don't know why

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because they don't know that either - lol
Don't wait anything than personal opinions and perceptions .

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Originally Posted by IImaestroII

Regarding this the formation page use this strata system

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For example this is a 23113

Mine is a 3133

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yeah but? the game ? what say?... go to Manager** screen to check plz xD

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Originally Posted by khris

yeah but? the game ? what say?... go to Manager** screen to check plz xD

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You mean this ?

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A lot of questions here. In reality aml with right foot definitely cut inside and with left foot should stay wide and deliver crosses. Thats how it works. But how it works here i dont know. Thats why it should be wise that nordeus could represent player roles. For example striker (targetman, false 9 or default...), winger inside foward or traditional winger, cm box to box, advanced playmaker.... and so on. Because now there are a lot of?? what do they do, when you place them higher or lower up the pitch, narrower or wider. Thats why here are a lot of questions because here are not enough filters to play as you want. I dont know, i could be wrong but that is my opinion.

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Originally Posted by IImaestroII

You mean this ?

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double criteria, 451 and 31213 lol

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Originally Posted by tomu741

A lot of questions here. In reality aml with right foot definitely cut inside and with left foot should stay wide and deliver crosses. Thats how it works. But how it works here i dont know. Thats why it should be wise that nordeus could represent player roles. For example striker (targetman, false 9 or default...), winger inside foward or traditional winger, cm box to box, advanced playmaker.... and so on. Because now there are a lot of?? what do they do, when you place them higher or lower up the pitch, narrower or wider. Thats why here are a lot of questions because here are not enough filters to play as you want. I dont know, i could be wrong but that is my opinion.

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foot doesnt matter, it is cosmetic.

Thats what i say. Players need their roles. We should command our players to do what we want. What we can now is place players all around the pitch with intentions that they do what we want. But well... Full forum with many questions what one thing do and what they dont do. Is it work or no, is it cosmetic, is it matter. Eh..
Even here are no interesting information nowdays about the game. What i can read now that it's all random or doesnt work. The most useful was written in 2013/2014 but its somehow outdated now but for example orders section hasn't changed all these years.

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Originally Posted by khris

foot doesnt matter, it is cosmetic.

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double criteria, 451 and 31213 lol

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I think that the 451 is nore generalistic, it says "basically you use 4 defenders, 5 midfielders and 1 striker, describe your style , the other one is more specific and that gives the oppo informations like " look his DR ison attack duty , i can exploit that " for example

Is it make sense? i play with 4-1-2-2-1 or 4-1-2-3 but in that manager section says that i play 4-4-2 attacking style although i had never played 4-4-2 :D

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Originally Posted by tomu741

Is it make sense? i play with 4-1-2-2-1 or 4-1-2-3 but in that manager section says that i play 4-4-2 attacking style although i had never played 4-4-2 :D

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lol :D

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

There is another thread about how (wrong) the wingers are moving.
Was it yours @ IImaestroII ?



That's a big truth. Are all those just illusions ?
In one game I was playing and my ST scored from the box.
At the same time, watching that game from my other team, I saw that player scoring from a F-K.
lol

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Ohhh so thats how it happens?? I tot we wud seeing the exact same game play...

The only thing I now is if your amr/l plays in the middle (it's better say all over the field) it burns out a lot of his condition, more than usual. So I prefer to avoid it, or use it just for a little bit.

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Originally Posted by LOS ABRANTES FC

The only thing I now is if your amr/l plays in the middle (it's better say all over the field) it burns out a lot of his condition, more than usual. So I prefer to avoid it, or use it just for a little bit.

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Interesting, i will some tests about this

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Originally Posted by LOS ABRANTES FC

The only thing I now is if your amr/l plays in the middle (it's better say all over the field) it burns out a lot of his condition, more than usual. So I prefer to avoid it, or use it just for a little bit.

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hmm, not exactly.
Burning condition has to do with performance.
A player who performed good and got a good rate, spent little more condition.
Let's say you have an AML and AMR in exactly the same place of the box/field.
Both started with 99% condition.
AML played superb, got a 9 and spent 24% condition (no high pressing or mtm).
AMR had a bad day, got a 7 but spent only 18% condition.

That was happening from the old TE times, before live animations.

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

hmm, not exactly.
Burning condition has to do with performance.
A player who performed good and got a good rate, spent little more condition.
Let's say you have an AML and AMR in exactly the same place of the box/field.
Both started with 99% condition.
AML played superb, got a 9 and spent 24% condition (no high pressing or mtm).
AMR had a bad day, got a 7 but spent only 18% condition.

That was happening from the old TE times, before live animations.

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That's ok, but by what I experienced, playing well an AML/R lied playing at the middle (or lined up at the bottom side of the box) burnt out more condition, the same as if he played extra time (more than 30%). I'll see to carry some evidence..

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more than 30%

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no, that's impossible.

Condition loss in a simple game is between 18-23%.

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Originally Posted by LOS ABRANTES FC

That's ok, but by what I experienced, playing well an AML/R lied playing at the middle (or lined up at the bottom side of the box) burnt out more condition, the same as if he played extra time (more than 30%). I'll see to carry some evidence..

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This could only occur with some extra booster settings (in attack, High pressure + some training bonuses like attack/possession ones and only when the "random selector that applies these boosters, chose this specific player to apply the bonuses on him") still a 30% diff' for a single player is something I never seen even playing with multiple out position players and so...

KUDOS for Hidegkuti! :o:o:o

So late night test :D and this came in my mind

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So in theory illegal formation that would not work but...

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a good and organized 4-4-2

I'm starting to think that this is a bugged position, they are playing like a legit MC, so Admins what can you say about this ?