Incredible League Trolling example

I need your assistance or advice as the current state of the game is killing me. We know well that there are 2-3 random matches during the season when the engine creates some crazy results when playing exactly under the same condition just like my cup game this season.

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The first home match is the best example of random game against bot team (30% weaker team) as I was losing 0-2 (without any chances to score) till 84th min when the opponent got red card and penalty so I was able to get a draw. The 2nd match is an example of difference between teams.

Let's now pass to the most interesting observation this season - THE GAME IS TROLLING ALL MY LEAGUE MATCHES.

Just for your info I'm not a new guy in the game with current level 57 and 17 trebles, 48 leagues won, 35 champions leagues and 23 cups. So for me the target for every season is only a treble. And the easiest win is always a league. Somehow during last 3-4 seasons my league difficulty has changed. The opponents are still the same (mostly weaker than me) but I managed to get 4-5 loses to much weaker teams but still were able to get the win in the league.

Now let's see what we have this season.

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4 loses against much lower teams (8, 9, 12 places etc)!!! and 1 lose against 2nd place but I don't mind it (as this opponent is 20% higher) even though I was winning 2-0 after the 1st half the game turned it 2-3 in the second. The rest of the teams are bots or 20-30% lower.

I still keep destoying all my opponents (equal or higher ovr) in cup and CL but can't do anything. Here is my main striker who keeps scoring 5-6 goals this season in almost each cup game but can't score a single goal in the league and keeps getting 5-6 marks after the game

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Additionally I get a LOT of yellow cards which later turn into red, but I get them ONLY in the league.

Some people here tank on purpose. In my case the engine tanks my team and I'm afraid with such results I won't be able to make it even to the final 8 in the end of the season.

I'm not a supporter of any conspiracy theory but I can't find any logical explanation to what is happening right now in my league. This is not random, this is trolling on purpose by game engine or by developers.

Your thoughts?

The game is based on a glorified dice role engine.
Now anyone that studies statistics will tell you that things even themselves out the more you roll, and that 3 dice will come out on top against one dice far more than the other way round, but that doesn't mean the chances of throwing 6 sixes in a row change.
You seem to be throwing 6 double ones at the moment.

A theory, a thought that i heard from some friends is that they penalize(trolling) managers with mutant players to " nerf " or balance the things, i have a friend in the same situation , his team is insane ( mutants with 300+ stats) but he really struggle against normal/weak teams (mostly league ). I REPEAT This is just a theory, but a lot of poeple suffering like this and coincidence:rolleyes:they all have mutant teams... i think there is some truth in this

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Originally Posted by IImaestroII

A theory, a thought that i heard from some friends is that they penalize(trolling) managers with mutant players to " nerf " or balance the things, i have a friend in the same situation , his team is insane ( mutants with 300+ stats) but he really struggle against normal/weak teams (mostly league ). I REPEAT This is just a theory, but a lot of poeple suffering like this and coincidence:rolleyes:they all have mutant teams... i think there is some truth in this

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Do you think there is any way we can find it out? Or should I ask them directly? But in this case won't it create bigger problems?

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Originally Posted by a.gavrilin

Do you think there is any way we can find it out? Or should I ask them directly? But in this case won't it create bigger problems?

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I don't think is useful to deal with this now with the new game coming probably after asso event

Just get used to it
No expectations and just enjoy the game
Just got troll.

My theory is much simpler but I have many examples from my personal experience: the game does whatever it can to prevent you from winning the treble! I faced 5 unexpected failures this year - all based on the same pattern: Win every single match until you reach cup/CL semis. And then comes this manager that will be impossible to beat in spite of the fact that he does not attend the match and he is 30% weaker than you. I am in the same situation this season and I can feel it coming. I already spotted who's gonna be my nightmare! See you in 2 weeks!!

It's called an Epic fail, embrrassing.... With such players you came on forum to complain.....

Even here Russia doesn't go well with Ukraine xD

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Originally Posted by Chai

Just get used to it
No expectations and just enjoy the game
Just got troll.

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Seriously))) How can I enjoy it when I keep losing without the reason))) Well currently it looks like rapping - so if you can not do anything just relax and enjoy the process)))

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Originally Posted by lalexrus

It's called an Epic fail, embrrassing.... With such players you came on forum to complain.....

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I'm not complaining, mate. The fact that I'm still playing this game for more than 5 years after such trolling results means that this game is not indifferent to me. And when I come here to share smth means I want to pay attention to some of the existant problems with the hope that it can be fixed. I think that is the main aim of the forum.

I know it's rather frustrating when a 20% or higher team could lose the match to a lower quality % team.
Just a couple of hours ago - my team ( of ten men) defeated the bot team of similar quality 3-1, and yet minutes later in a CL match, i lost to a team 26% lower in quality to mine by 4-2
Explanation?
As someone in the forum wrote - it's a roll of the dice
If it's your turn to be troll - that's the end result
Just hope that's a one off thingy (I wish)
No expectations - no frustrations. Cheers

Is a matter of margins, thats all. I too had a 7-1 in cup and then a defeat for 1-0 vs..... a -20%... not sure, Ive to check but "what decides the scenario" can set a X distance and fix the chances, IMO this factor has been set more wide lately and Im absolutely against as Ive said many times, same as the recalibration of high scores, and the elimination of limits between skills.
Im actually against many actions that Nordeus had done, as IMO all these unbalance the game.

And well... you know, all is about understand the game limits and use them in your favour as you can. :rolleyes:

Well it seems that currently my bad results have ended and today I destroyed the 1st place 1-4 but it seems to be late to get back to the battle for the 1st place as the difference is already 13 points. So let's say bye-bye to treble and finish this season in positive mood.

In the meanwhile last season I had similar engine surprise in the league. Till the last week I had 100% result but then lost lost all my 6 matches in a raw during the last week including the match with the opponent from the last place. Fortunately it was the end of the season and I had good advantage. This season I had similar series of results from the start. Let's see how it goes. I will let you know where it brings me in the end

just played 3rd trolled match this season, way to much my nordeus ppl, make a league with yours trolled teams and enjoy, i wont waste my time and money to look how my 100% + offensive players has 9% efficience vs 75% goalie and crapy deffence, they 3 star striker is beter than my 6 star deffences and 2 star mc killed my 6 stars mc's and all that with 25% possesion. I rather go playing something else where troling isnt that obvious at least.

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Originally Posted by a.gavrilin

Well it seems that currently my bad results have ended and today I destroyed the 1st place 1-4 but it seems to be late to get back to the battle for the 1st place as the difference is already 13 points. So let's say bye-bye to treble and finish this season in positive mood.

In the meanwhile last season I had similar engine surprise in the league. Till the last week I had 100% result but then lost lost all my 6 matches in a raw during the last week including the match with the opponent from the last place. Fortunately it was the end of the season and I had good advantage. This season I had similar series of results from the start. Let's see how it goes. I will let you know where it brings me in the end

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If I were you, I would not give up so easily. League is to me a completely different business than cup or CL: the highest quality team is somehow favored. I once catched up on all oppo from the 10th place at mid-competition after a terrible streak like yours. The game may help you and you may see your oppo destroying one another at your advantage.

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Originally Posted by lalexrus

It's called an Epic fail, embrrassing.... With such players you came on forum to complain.....

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You are not the last one when it comes to complaining on this forum. But I am sure your reasons are better than his because you are a great manager!

yeah, you had a bad period, happened so many time to any of us. i remember some time ago (more than 1 year) i was leading the league by 8 points, i had the best team by 10-15% and somehow the server made me lose every match until the end, even with last places, abandoned teams, finishing in 3rd place. or another time when i won the first leg of the semi-final of the cup with 6-1 and losing the second 5-0 just because the server wanted that way. he was 15% weaker, not attending the match but somehow the server made him 30% better than he was. of course, i had 2 red cards, but when the server trolls you, that's normal. and that was the first time i was dominated in a match i was online at. and many more examples but i guess you made the point...
that's how the game is made, with every update is worst, anything can happen at any point of the season. if you don't manipulate the server you don't have any chance to make the triple... simple as that. we'll see what nordeus has to say about that soon :))

I understand an occasional troll result can be frustrating, especially if you did everything- training requirements, good morale, good energy, etc. But it's a poor way the game tries to simulate 'real' football. Just this past weekend Man City lost to Crystal Palace so it does happen SOMETIMES. I do agree that it happens more than I would like in a season but it's their way of trying to give the real deal. I know my tactics work as, right after the troll, I go on to win most of my matches. If you experience a loss or draw more often then you like, I suggest looking at your tactics or formation for the answer to your problem. I'm at a point now where I know for sure when I lose or draw it is a troll as my formation gives most teams a lot of problems which makes it easier to accept a loss knowing a win is right around the corner.