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Guys, what’s the best way to deal with the new Team Play bonus? I see different strategies, of course presuming we want get the bonus and it does have some positive effect.
- training basic 11 with a mixed training
- training offense en defense players apart from each other to train more specific whites
What is you opinion about the most effective approach?
Greets from Holland,
Rutger
So far the most effective way I have seen is this:
1) Train the "old" bonuses with your bench like you did before
2) Train your starting eleven warmup - warmup - skill drill - skill drill - video analysis - video analysis (1x for 4.5% condition loss with a x2 video, or twice without a video for 9% condition loss)
3) Train your starting eleven warmup - stretch - skill drill - skill drill - video analysis - video analysis 1x without a video for 5.25% condition loss
All your bonuses will be max and if you use 1 x2 video you only need 9.75% condition of your starters.
I can't use the x2 bonus (only get one or two greens a day now) and had to train my 1st team down to 70% this morning just to get from 8% to 10%Quote:
Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M
Have two games coming up, can see this being unplayable for these of us with no vids pretty soon
With my method you would still "only" need 14.25% condition... Still, for people who can't watch videos for any reason this is really bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by gogs67
Its the end for me sadly ...and everyone else who only plays on PC. There are no videos to watch so it would cost $20 a month to buy enough green packs to play the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M
Can t you use an android just for the videos; And keep doing everything else with pc.😓
stop falling for nordeus crap !!! this new feature is fake !! nordeus are wasting your greenpacks to no effect !! let your team bonus ROT ! just do your daily training to 40% (even though that is probably bull**** too)Quote:
Originally Posted by Z.Ep.
Do the drills for max. the player bonuses..Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxraf
I do the same even with a condition of 30-40% of my team , I hardly see any differences when I use to keep my team on 100% condition
I just max everything everyday too. I top up condition for tough matches but other than that. I play with whatever i have but i have an easy league. Last season was tough with alot of high quality teams. Those seasons i max everything including condition everyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by maloukees
For those with no videos, how about having a second team to handle easier matches? That way your first team can play 1 game and recover on those days when you have weak opponents.
Before the TPB I used to omit the starting XI from daily training (using a similar regime to @Der_Ryan_M) if they wouldn't recover naturally from the 3 hour recovery period(s). Now I include them and then have to use videos (1 each) to recover them back to match condition. This means I use more videos than before, but haven't yet had an issue with getting them as I don't usually farm packs using videos. While this is all very well for me, I do have sympathy for those managers who don't have easy access to videos and have to resort to using their precious Green packs to get anything like a starting XI in match condition and have them with maximum TPB...
It seems that Nordeus has set up a delicate balancing act between the traditional Match Bonuses, Team Player Bonus, Condition, Morale, Green Packs and Videos which forces managers to prioritise between playing matches and team development.
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Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M
The approach is very good but I prefer a different one although it costs slightly more condition to my first squad (unless I can tweak it some more)
At the moment I am doing warmup-warmup-stretch-carioca with ladders-skill drill-video analisis with x2 bonus (6% condition loss)
then warm up-warm up-stretch-skill drill-video analysis-video analysis one time (5.25% condition loss)
So I spend 11.25% condition (with one video bonus) on first squad, but have maxed condition bonus and individual bonuses
Then I turn to 4 bench players with def/mid/offensive positions and do the rest of bonuses. I haven't optimized it yet but it's kind of skill dril x3, pass go and shoot, piggy in the middle, video analysis, all 2 times.. This is not really important as these 4 players are bonus workhorses.
The advantage for me is having to keep only 4 useless players instead of 8. This frees more space in the roster for real reserves and young players I want to give custom training. For me this is worth the 1.5% additional condition loss at the moment, and as I said I am hoping to tweak it more.
I would be interested to know if anyone has a more effective way (less condition loss) of maxing the condition bonus only, irrespective of what happens to the other bonuses.
Had a similar idea: this bonus is BS...
Had good results in my regular competitions and asso too!
And... Got new patch still ZERO TPB bonus...aaaaaaaand
two smooth losses from weaker white teams.... Im beating those teams in asso too (until now?)... and my team was struggling today...
Anyone experienced the same?
The night before I train everyone so they should be near 99% when I wake up.
I've found doing warm-up video analysis skill drill 7 times gets everyone's TP Bonus (toilet paper bonus, lmao) up to 10 for a loss of approximately 17%, using no videos.
Then I use reserves to get the Team Bonus up to 10%.
Today they'll have added two rests before their first game at 2:00PM, so the lowest rested of the first eleven will be on 93% rest.
Without having to train for the Toilet Paper Bonus they still would all be on 90+% rest by the first game, so today is okay.
If they'd had to play a Cup game this morning closely followed by a League game they would've been really tired or their Toilet Paper Bonus would've been lower. Not sure which to sacrifice but I'm leaning towards a toilet paper bonus of 8 and fresh legs.
My old training way
Training set : (----Warm up stretch use head Pig in the middle skill drill pass go shoot --) this set cost around 7.5 % condition
I used to do this set 4 times to my sub players to get 40% bonus
now new system i realized that to reach full bonus for each player you must do the set I mentioned above as following :
1 time to teach 4%
2 times to reach 6% ( one set more from 4% to 6 % for the player )
4 times to teach 8% ( two sets more from 6% to 8% for the player )
8 times to reach 10% ( three sets more from 8% to 10 % for the player )