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100% Proof this game is garbage
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It’s not about who has better team it’s about who prepares better for the game and is more motivated
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Well
- 85% quality it's not some great team
- 85% vs 62% it's not some big difference
- 4def + 2DMC ? wow, why so much defense vs this opponent ?
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I was undefeated in the league up to this game, beating people rated 80%, 77%, 87%. But the bottom team that hasnt won a game all season beats mr. Undefeated at the top?
that's the logic of the game. Trying to defeats you.
Sometimes not with your best opponent.
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jamesjd
It’s not about who has better team it’s about who prepares better for the game and is more motivated
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Everyone was Very Good or Superb morale. All 99% rested. I doubt his were the same.
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nikolgiorgos
Well
- 85% quality it's not some great team
- 85% vs 62% it's not some big difference
- 4def + 2DMC ? wow, why so much defense vs this opponent ?
that's the logic of the game. Trying to defeats you.
Sometimes not with your best opponent.
I always pack defense for counterattacking football. Thats my philosophy. And I created a lot of opportunities it just simulated them as misses or their 2* GK somehow blocking the shot everytime. Or my 110% finishing finishers just miss wide. It was garbage. Im over it cus this game is garbage I just never seen such blatant scripting ever before. Considering all elements, even the during-game stats, I should have easily captured 3 pts and kept my league grip tighter now its slipped to omly 1 pt lead..
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I always pack defense for counterattacking football. Thats my philosophy.
hmm, "always" is not so good for a coach.
You can say that
Always I start my games with that formation ....
but at some point you must change it.
Specially in this game with a weaker opponent who scored twice.
Ofc don't know if you changed your tactics after the 1st goal.
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nikolgiorgos
hmm, "always" is not so good for a coach.
You can say that
Always I start my games with that formation ....
but at some point you must change it.
Specially in this game with a weaker opponent who scored twice.
Ofc don't know if you changed your tactics after the 1st goal.
We are saying the same thing with different words. Of course I switch tactics accordingly, thats my default formation-a formation that packs defense. But my attackers are forward minded so its more of a counter attacking formation.
This was a one-off loss it was just so blatantly scripted to make me lose though. I just had to share. Looking at the evidence and pictures attached, one would have to agree.
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nikolgiorgos
hmm, "always" is not so good for a coach.
You can say that
Always I start my games with that formation ....
but at some point you must change it.
Specially in this game with a weaker opponent who scored twice.
Ofc don't know if you changed your tactics after the 1st goal.
Also the first goal was a penalty. 2nd was a corner kick. All set piece goals (easiest way for the game mask troll results) meanwhile the simulation is simulating our phenomenal open-play attacks to end up wide even after leaving the GK in the dust. This thread was made more to yell at Nordeus to at least do me the courtesy to take me out before screwing me. Don't show my players playing phenomenal football against a weaker team playing weaker football and we still lose. Garbage.
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what is this post about ? 85% vs 62% ? thats normal.... come on... if your team would be 120% (thats the percentage where the good team starts from as Nordeus is cutting training % after this point.... I would be concerned, but not 85 vs. 62.... that is nothing nowadays
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I agree. Even if your rates, stats or a. m. comments looks like a trolling, I 'm not impres from your team.
You need 2 defenders with Header and Def. Wall sa and 2 stronger AML-AMR.
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TheWhiteKirby
I always pack defense for counterattacking football. Thats my philosophy. And I created a lot of opportunities it just simulated them as misses or their 2* GK somehow blocking the shot everytime. Or my 110% finishing finishers just miss wide. It was garbage. Im over it cus this game is garbage I just never seen such blatant scripting ever before. Considering all elements, even the during-game stats, I should have easily captured 3 pts and kept my league grip tighter now its slipped to omly 1 pt lead..
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If you have all the possession, what's the use in relying on counterattacking football? Your opponent needs to have attacks before you can counterattack. It's an unlucky loss for sure, but this one isn't on Nordeus.
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I agree with TheWhiteKirby in one thing that has happend to me also and that can be considered a bug
The team im presence made a surprise therefore the report can never say they were favourites!
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Look he had better tactics then you your not a good manager that means and you have no backup plan if you want to be one of Europe’s elite you have to learn how to manage properly mate we’ve all been there so have i I’ve lost in the champions league final in the final second of extra time at 119 minutes I lost but you have to come back we should have a friendly match against each other if you want mate
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TheWhiteKirby
Just look at the photos. Completely scripted result just bad writer. Absolute garbage. I was undefeated in the league up to this game, beating people rated 80%, 77%, 87%. But the bottom team that hasnt won a game all season beats mr. Undefeated at the top? F garbage.
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Hate to say this but i told you so. Game is exactly how it was before you left the game. Its kinda fair. Just try to get used to it since all of us also suffer troll results against the weakest teams in the league every once in awhile
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EastsiderSG
Hate to say this but i told you so. Game is exactly how it was before you left the game. Its kinda fair. Just try to get used to it since all of us also suffer troll results against the weakest teams in the league every once in awhile
You did warn me! [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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jamesjd
Look he had better tactics then you your not a good manager that means and you have no backup plan if you want to be one of Europe’s elite you have to learn how to manage properly mate we’ve all been there so have i I’ve lost in the champions league final in the final second of extra time at 119 minutes I lost but you have to come back we should have a friendly match against each other if you want mate
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My tactics are not bad lol I was undefeated last season. I pull upsets a lot just beat an 87% 0-2. We should do a friendly since your tactics must be so impeccable and mine so bad right? Lol
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Yeah definitely are you in a assosciation so I can add you
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this is why i need to stop playing te
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I guess American math is different because a % difference of 23 is a lot. If you're phone was 75% you would think it's fine but if your phone was at 52% you might consider reaching for a charger. All of you ignore the huge state difference in performance between the two teams. I'm not claiming my team is great but it is, according to the game, 23% better in terms of player rating. At least 5.6 pts better in quality. I guess I'm the only one who paid attention in stat class. Everything people assume was off wasnt off- my formation was solid, well rested, well moraled, good form, good quality, good tactics, made opportunities, players played well, made good substitutions, made good tactic switches. This game just wanted me to lose this one. And that's fine, but don't try to place the blame on me- I know I'm good lol. This game knows it too- I wouldn't perform that well if my tactics weren't solid, use you're f**king brains lol. But I've been over it- ya'll wont' see it, just inv me and friendly me!
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Check this out. A quality difference of almost 50. Surprisingly the 2 star team is active but cannot improve his team as he is broke. Players are around 100 million at my level but he doesnt have that. His stadium still has 200 capacity. He attends almost all matches though and beat a few stronger teams enroute to SL QF. I dont get why he plays like that, perhaps to make it more challenging.
You really cant fight it if the game wants you to lose or draw. **** happens, not often though. You can minimise its impact sometimes but there are those that nothing you do matters. In my CL, there are plenty of active teams getting knocked out by teams 20 plus quality weaker.
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i think i agree with you, now how tf 80 rate def (he use 3 defender and all of them 80 with 80 def skill, while my defender is 100 with 160 rate defending skills) out-perform my 3 150 rate attackers ? he play defensive (with faulty formation, no support), i play defensive (with massive support). i play 4 defensive he only 3 with rubbish defender, this game is crap right now.. no matter how hard you train, if the game choose you as losing the side... so be it. before tf update, i get what i work for (train hard and got massive winning streak) now ? meh... now the game is just totally random. no wonder peoples quit (for what train and tweak your formation? just go idle). but me, i play for fun but this is not fun anymore but a serious joke
yeah i going attack in second half but, no progress, same stats as i play defensive (switching to attack will boost your chance, at least shots on target, but now? nope.. then i realize something smells fishy, i've been there many times lol)
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You ALWAYS need to be very careful playing with significantly weaker teams as sometimes the game engine wants to create an illusion that your team underestimates the opponent and the outcome is not really great.
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I have to agree with the topic starter. It does not matter anymore at all what ever your bonuses are, how well rested your players are, what tactics you use, how much supporters you have or what ever you change during the match. Sad but True. This game is rubbish thesedays.
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FC-Helsinki
It does not matter anymore at all what ever your bonuses are, how well rested your players are, what tactics you use, how much supporters you have or what ever you change during the match.
It all does. It's just not the 1:1 correlation anymore and is not a guarantee for winning matches, which may be perceived as unfair.
This season (by now) I have 41W 2D 1L. Have just won the Cup final. This is consistent with the previous seasons. And I totally stand by those 2D and 1L - I do understand why they could happen.
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in about 80% of the matches i've played this season my side hasn't been at full condition etc yet until last match i was on top of league,played 2nd placed team who are on my friends list he beat me also his team is 10% better than mine,earlier in season i beat him so 1-1 in results but the difference in both matches was prep in first i clearly remember not being at full condition and having best player suspended yet won, yet away match i decided to get full conditon etc etc and lost,in the important games CUP.CL and i have had team at full condition/ morale and were i needed to win to progress and i had team at full strength the game has been lost ????!! all begs the question is any counted in the calculation of match?
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iansyorkcityfc
all begs the question is any counted in the calculation of match?
Yes, it's ALL counted
But, as has been gone over before, nothing guarantees a win
Think of it in the sense of dice rolls. The object is to throw a six. Both you and your opponent start with one dice each, evenly matched. Every time you tweak your team, every improvement gets you an extra dice so, eventually you have say 15 dice to their 1,
Now that does not mean you will always beat them, but it does mean the likelihood of you beating them at the start of every game is far higher than the likelihood of them beating you
But there will always be an instance where their six beats your 15 x five's and below.
That is this game engine and it lessens the frustration when you reduce the whole thing to what it is, chance, with influencing but not absolute outside effects, these effects being your game play.
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gogs67
Yes, it's ALL counted
But, as has been gone over before, nothing guarantees a win
Think of it in the sense of dice rolls. The object is to throw a six. Both you and your opponent start with one dice each, evenly matched. Every time you tweak your team, every improvement gets you an extra dice so, eventually you have say 15 dice to their 1,
Now that does not mean you will always beat them, but it does mean the likelihood of you beating them at the start of every game is far higher than the likelihood of them beating you
But there will always be an instance where their six beats your 15 x five's and below.
That is this game engine and it lessens the frustration when you reduce the whole thing to what it is, chance, with influencing but not absolute outside effects, these effects being your game play.
you also have to remember the Unknown way the AI game engine controls the team when oppo is absent
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EastsiderSG
Hate to say this but i told you so. Game is exactly how it was before you left the game. Its kinda fair. Just try to get used to it since all of us also suffer troll results against the weakest teams in the league every once in awhile
The game is ridiculous since the update in may. To lose vs 10-15% weakers i agree but not 30% or more!
When i make me many hours work to train my players to 130% for example its not fair to lose vs 30-50 weakers with **** team
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Stop complaining about troll results. We know it. If you don't like them, don't play the game! They are a part of the game.
Learn how to prevent them
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milpol
Stop complaining about troll results. We know it. If you don't like them, don't play the game! They are a part of the game.
Learn how to prevent them
be serious, you can't prevent them. especially in cup/cl finals. it's 100% proved that the ai is on weaker's team side. last season i showed some evidence in here to prove this but somebody in here deleted the post. i guess they don't want stuff like that public. truth is disturbing :)) so stop taking the game side because it's obvious it's programmed this way.
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lento79
The game is ridiculous since the update in may. To lose vs 10-15% weakers i agree but not 30% or more!
When i make me many hours work to train my players to 130% for example its not fair to lose vs 30-50 weakers with **** team
the game engine is broken 1,5 year now, when they started to control the super scores vs abandoned teams.
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funker
be serious, you can't prevent them. especially in cup/cl finals. it's 100% proved that the ai is on weaker's team side. last season i showed some evidence in here to prove this but somebody in here deleted the post. i guess they don't want stuff like that public. truth is disturbing :)) so stop taking the game side because it's obvious it's programmed this way.
Yes thats true. The weaker became bonus
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milpol
Stop complaining about troll results. We know it. If you don't like them, don't play the game! They are a part of the game.
Learn how to prevent them
Now its a Part of the game but many years before not
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Its easy for a level 11 compared to level 55 and up like me. For you the process of growth is what keeps you going. Me I've been playing this game for 5 years. Maxed out my Training at level 91, the game got worse when they stopped allowing you to upgrade your ground and other buildings, things that actually make the club on the whole better. Whats the point of the option in the game? It's a waste. Trust me when you've reached the pinnacle like many others have and only to realize it does not matter much. No matter how many tokens you buy and spend or training. The game will find a way to mess things up. The better ideas like National Teams can never last, only the garbage events they have once in a while.