Youth academy

[Der_Ryan_M]

I will post my experience in an extra thread I opened in the tactics and tutorials section of the forum:

https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...h-academy.html

However it is somewhat disappointing that you can't select preferred position, even though they said so. It's another misleading sentence - of course I can select preferred position from the guys they offer me, but not preferred position overall.
I just hope, that maybe every day or so new guys arrive to sign. But I don't think so, we will be set with these 8 guys that were here today.

Also why would a player coming out at 75% be free and one being ready at 65% cost 6T. So I think the more expensive, the faster trainer and at the end only 5 and 6T maybe will be worth for training.

[Tactician]

I will post my experience in an extra thread I opened in the tactics and tutorials section of the forum:

https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...h-academy.html

However it is somewhat disappointing that you can't select preferred position, even though they said so. It's another misleading sentence - of course I can select preferred position from the guys they offer me, but not preferred position overall.
I just hope, that maybe every day or so new guys arrive to sign. But I don't think so, we will be set with these 8 guys that were here today.

Also why would a player coming out at 75% be free and one being ready at 65% cost 6T. So I think the more expensive, the faster trainer and at the end only 5 and 6T maybe will be worth for training.

If the token value indicate how fast the player will progress, then while someone can differentiate between slow, medium and fast trainers, there is no guarantee he will get one or more fast (or very fast) trainers in the list to choose. Look at those lists from the screenshots posted. There is hardly a player having the top token price, and some do not even have 1. Most contain players having the 3 token value (far from the 6T or higher ones if they can exist are as such in this feature).

[Der_Ryan_M]

If the token value indicate how fast the player will progress, then while someone can differentiate between slow, medium and fast trainers, there is no guarantee he will get one or more fast (or very fast) trainers in the list to choose. Look at those lists from the screenshots posted. There is hardly a player having the top token price, and some do not even have 1. Most contain players having the 3 token value (far from the 6T or higher ones if they xzn exist are as such in this feature).

I think 6 is max but on my test accounts I only had 1 or 2 of such, so this would be really it for this feature in my mind if it is so hard to find a fast trainer.

[Tactician]

I think 6 is max but on my test accounts I only had 1 or 2 of such, so this would be really it for this feature in my mind if it is so hard to find a fast trainer.

So looks like same problem again. Users will hope to get the 6T ones with the right positions in the list but will only be dissappointed again and again to the point of being pissed. Time will tell and confirm. In my list, there is neither one 6T player nor even a 5T player.

[khris]

If the token value indicate how fast the player will progress, then while someone can differentiate between slow, medium and fast trainers, there is no guarantee he will get one or more fast (or very fast) trainers in the list to choose. Look at those lists from the screenshots posted. There is hardly a player having the top token price, and some do not even have 1. Most contain players having the 3 token value (far from the 6T or higher ones if they can exist are as such in this feature).

I wouldn't really... reach this conclusion. You know the Market players stats are cosmetic, nothing related with the real player performance.. and this can be the same. Usually all academies are fast trainers so let's see if finally there will exist something obvious that can help us to know the individual XP gaining...

[Tactician]

I wouldn't really... reach this conclusion. You know the Market players stats are cosmetic, nothing related with the real player performance.. and this can be the same. Usually all academies are fast trainers so let's see if finally there will exist something obvious that can help us to know the individual XP gaining...

Not all token academy players (old system) were fast trainers. Maybe you had the impression they were fast because they were progressing fast when you trained them but you should consider that they had low quality too and that many young players will progress fast due to the fact that they are low quality in respective to the level they are on. Some of those 6-8T academy players were not fast trainers as such; I trained two of those that I sign last season this season and their progress were more like medium trainers. Despite that they were in the very low quality area (3 stars) and with low white skills, they were progressing at the speed of what a fast trainer would progress at higher quality (5 stars) and far from what a fast trainer is expected to progress at the quality they were. Those could end more like slow trainers when they will reach the low 6-stars area. The highest token value ones (12-14T) were fast trainers.

[Sillybq]

I will post my experience in an extra thread I opened in the tactics and tutorials section of the forum:

https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...h-academy.html

However it is somewhat disappointing that you can't select preferred position, even though they said so. It's another misleading sentence - of course I can select preferred position from the guys they offer me, but not preferred position overall.
I just hope, that maybe every day or so new guys arrive to sign. But I don't think so, we will be set with these 8 guys that were here today.

Also why would a player coming out at 75% be free and one being ready at 65% cost 6T. So I think the more expensive, the faster trainer and at the end only 5 and 6T maybe will be worth for training.

Will be following your thread. I think the tokens still indicate which players are FT. Hopefully your thread will prove it in time

[gogs67]

Will be following your thread. I think the tokens still indicate which players are FT. Hopefully your thread will prove it in time

I think they will all be fast trainers, the tokens just indicate the starting %, the same as the system it replaced. (I hope anyway)
The 8, 10, 12 token YA players all trained fast, but the less the tokens the lower the staring level.

[Tactician]

The 8, 10, 12 token YA players all trained fast, but the less the tokens the lower the staring level.

It is what I expected too till I was surprised recently when I was training two lower valued ones (6-8T) that I signed the previous season. Their progress in training both for training skills and a special ability per condition spent (or rest packs spent) were far from expectations despite that they were still like raw players (not powertrained or even much trained before - still with low white skills and of course low grey skills). They turned out be to medium trainers or maybe even slower (definitely not first class or second class fast trainers). Their speed of progress was like the speed of what a fast training low 5-star player would have but those two players were 3 stars. Maybe something changed due to the new academy system but only one of them was signed after the new system came. Their market values when they reached a certain quality (4 stars, meaning 5 stars of the previous level) after training confirmed it too - it was like 0.4M less than the value of a fast trainer at that quality - a significant difference in that level. I had academy player that was in the higher price that was sign two seasons before. When he reached that same quality for that same level, his value was 0.4M more. Someone would have expected that a fast training academy player signed on the level after to have a higher value than that of the one that was signed the level before, when both reached the same quality. So, those two players were not fast trainers.

[Der_Ryan_M]

I just hope, that maybe every day or so new guys arrive to sign. But I don't think so, we will be set with these 8 guys that were here today.

Damn son... 8 guys per season is not a wide choice.