Absolutely frustrated- engine seems to be totally destroyed - or is it wanted?

So, slowly, but surely, it is time to look for a new game. after a long thought I bought the premium package from the current event this morning. So Nordeus got another 5.49 Euro from me. I was very happy to be able to give my goalkeeper a second special ability :). I went into my association game with confidence. My opponent is almost equally strong, only 2% separated us. He was a bit stronger than me, 118% vs 120%. So I think you can speak of it, it was an absolutely balanced match. What can I say - I lost 0: 6 :).

There are thousands of green boosters and tokens in my players. I know how to train well, almost all of my players are legendary. I spend money. Give my goalkeeper a 2nd special ability. And I have absolutely no chance !! It's an absolute joke what's happening here. Yes, my opponent was good too. Yes, you cannot win every game. I would not have been upset or angry about a close 2: 3. But such a defeat is just an insolence for a paying manager.

The game is still full of bugs, which also annoys me. One, sometimes two of our members in the association have been displayed on the opponent's side for weeks. We have lost possession of the ball for weeks. Nobody cares. Support almost no longer answers, no longer exists. Many of my friends report that they will no longer get an answer. Free videos on Android stall, jerky, can not be completely picked up.

It no longer matters how high the white skills are trained. If I meet an opponent who is only one percent stronger than me, I almost always lose. Despite high white skills.

I still haven't received any compensation at the beginning of the season. I was eliminated in the first cup round because Nordeus imported an incorrect backup. My cup game was running while being reset to 1% :). Nobody cares :). So sad!!

Today was the very last time i invested money. i'm going to work hard for my money and will no longer spend it on such a fool.

I'm absolutely frustrated. I will find out how far I could get money back. I don't want to talk about fraud, but it's a gray area, right?

The game engine seems to favor formations/tactics a lot more lately. I see the white skills seem to work no more, or at least very little impact... Even in associations now.

It's why the game feels so random at times. We can't know the tactics of our opposition. Last weekend in Asso, I also lost 5:1 and 3:0 vs an opponent, who was 7% stronger, but his players were like randomly skilled. Scouts and some greens invested. Nothing you can do sometimes.

It is hard to tell, when we don't know the formations you and your opponent were using and even when we know, still no guarantee to win any game. It's TE 2020. Another time it will work in your favor.

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Originally Posted by GoDenjoGo

So, slowly, but surely, it is time to look for a new game. after a long thought I bought the premium package from the current event this morning. So Nordeus got another 5.49 Euro from me. I was very happy to be able to give my goalkeeper a second special ability :). I went into my association game with confidence. My opponent is almost equally strong, only 2% separated us. He was a bit stronger than me, 118% vs 120%. So I think you can speak of it, it was an absolutely balanced match. What can I say - I lost 0: 6 :).

There are thousands of green boosters and tokens in my players. I know how to train well, almost all of my players are legendary. I spend money. Give my goalkeeper a 2nd special ability. And I have absolutely no chance !! It's an absolute joke what's happening here. Yes, my opponent was good too. Yes, you cannot win every game. I would not have been upset or angry about a close 2: 3. But such a defeat is just an insolence for a paying manager.

The game is still full of bugs, which also annoys me. One, sometimes two of our members in the association have been displayed on the opponent's side for weeks. We have lost possession of the ball for weeks. Nobody cares. Support almost no longer answers, no longer exists. Many of my friends report that they will no longer get an answer. Free videos on Android stall, jerky, can not be completely picked up.

It no longer matters how high the white skills are trained. If I meet an opponent who is only one percent stronger than me, I almost always lose. Despite high white skills.

I still haven't received any compensation at the beginning of the season. I was eliminated in the first cup round because Nordeus imported an incorrect backup. My cup game was running while being reset to 1% :). Nobody cares :). So sad!!

Today was the very last time i invested money. i'm going to work hard for my money and will no longer spend it on such a fool.

I'm absolutely frustrated. I will find out how far I could get money back. I don't want to talk about fraud, but it's a gray area, right?

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The game is not perfect, true, but bugs are many games problem. When you face a match you need to consider / analize every aspect on details. Having players with high white attributes doen's mean that you are going to win for sure :) . The tatic / formation can make the difference between 2 teams with same % and yes ( like your match ) a 6-0 is completely possible. Is up to you to question your self , like ' why did i lose ?, maybe this formation wasn't good against him ? i should have played more cautions instea of attacking him ? and many others.. ' and try to find why. By doing this you will improve and understand better the game.

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Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M

We can't know the tactics of our opposition..

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I would say this is not correct :) ,with some experience we can spot the oppo tactics and react to it but needs time to be learned. But 1st the formation needs to be countered then settings later

too many fouls cards injuries and troll results this season IMO. some well known counter formations aren't working as good as before.

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Originally Posted by IImaestroII

I would say this is not correct :) ,with some experience we can spot the oppo tactics and react to it but needs time to be learned. But 1st the formation needs to be countered then settings later

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We can't know the settings of the opponents pregame. But I play the game with text mode, so I can only see certain things from the statistics part, not from animations. I enjoy it more. Countering formations or at least not being countered, is an important part of the game I am currently learning (again). I see that vs some of the common formations, some other formations are almost always doing exceptionally well.

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Originally Posted by IImaestroII

I would say this is not correct :) ,with some experience we can spot the oppo tactics and react to it but needs time to be learned. But 1st the formation needs to be countered then settings later

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I have to disagree here . From what Im seeing around lately it is almost clear to me that tactics plays a more significant impact during a scenario preparation . Some basic things in formation like

a) oppo is playing with 3 wide attackers , I will go 3 wide

b) counter amc with dmc

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are enough to give you a boost

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Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M

The game engine seems to favor formations/tactics a lot more lately. I see the white skills seem to work no more, or at least very little impact... Even in associations now.

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And I personally find that outrageous! you invest an incredible amount of resources and lose a lot against an opponent who invests nothing? this is a joke

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too many fouls cards injuries and troll results this season IMO.

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Yes!

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Having players with high white attributes doen's mean that you are going to win for sure

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why not? I see the game as a kind of service. When I invest money, I normally should never lose against someone who doesn't invest money. if we invest both, the result should not be so clear, I think. At the baker i get bread for my money. in the subway i get a ticket for my money and can take the train. in the brothel I get a few nice hours for my money. From nordeus i get a 0: 6 for my money :)

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The tatic / formation can make the difference between 2 teams with same % and yes ( like your match ) a 6-0 is completely possible.

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No, I'm sorry. that has nothing to do with realism. bayern munich vs dortmund, real vs barca or man city vs liverpool rarely end with canter victories.

At the end you need to take the game as it is and adapt to the game, like it or not... Or quit playing.

And why should you win a game just because you spend money? It would be a sad game, when all the money spenders win against those who do not. You just buy yourself a higher chance to win games. To win every game is impossible, even when you spend absurd amounts of money every month. The 5,49€ for the premium pass isn't much and you got what you paid for, the second SA for your GK, emblem and so on.

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At the end you need to take the game as it is and adapt to the game, like it or not... Or quit playing.

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exactly, that is the logical consequence. in any case, i will not pay a penny more to nordeus.

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And why should you win a game just because you spend money?

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never heard of paytowin games?

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The 5,49€ for the premium pass isn't much and you got what you paid for, the second SA for your GK,..

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great. without a second specialty I would probably have lost 0:10 :)

Lol those special abilities really arent so effective. I think you were countered by opponents tactics/formation.
Who said that if enemy plays 3 wide you should counter with 3w defense? Have you ever saw it in football that someone played with 1 dc? Maybe it works here but it's so dumb after all

Prove him wrong then pro [emoji57]

Counter formations definitely work this season, though this season imaginative and aggressive attacking tactics work ‘better’ than a typical 4DC + 1/2 DMC(s) packed defence if attacking players position themselves with a purpose. Eg. 3v2 overloading flanks, 2 AMC vs 1 DMC, 3STs narrow vs 3W DL&DC&DR, etc.

This season it also seems there are a lot more injuries and 2nd yellows. And reds (to my opponents only - which I am glad of until now).

The engine somehow did not succeed to troll my team in today’s Cup match. Usually when a yellow pops up, I would sub it when feeling enough risk (time) has been taken - but I have to say it did try very, very hard to troll me by 2nd-yellow-ing my particular MC spot player alongside with an injury.

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Timeline (Minute, incident):
06) ST injured
11) ST off, MC sub on, pushed starter MC to ST (3-position ST/AMC/MC)
37) Sub MC received Yellow
58) Sub MC off, sub ST on, starter 3-position ST/AMC/MC moved back to original MC spot
59) Same MC receives Yellow!!!

So in 1 match, the engine has set to both injure my starter ST AND also 2nd-yellow that MC spot player, be it the original starter or sub. It is just that with some great fortune that my way of player combination and moving up/down lines of play to be working to its perfection to avoid the nearly inevitable sending-off (alongside injuring a starter ST).
Yes, I still won the match comfortably at the end, but that’s not the point. It is clearly a troll plot in full play there!

And troll engine is operating onto my 2nd match of the day too!

This time is a straight red to my other MC, closely followed by an injury of my other starter ST. All inside only the first 13 minutes!

1 image says it all.

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How ridiculous can it be in 2 matches in a row that the engine ‘decides’ both my starter STs are to be injured and then both MCs ‘should’ be sent off too!?

Hopefully these games are the troll tax paid for. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M

We can't know the settings of the opponents pregame. But I play the game with text mode, so I can only see certain things from the statistics part, not from animations. I enjoy it more. Countering formations or at least not being countered, is an important part of the game I am currently learning (again). I see that vs some of the common formations, some other formations are almost always doing exceptionally well.

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(¬¬)' we can know all about the settings just looking at the animation and the stats bro xDpassing orders, offtrap, counters, tackling levels on the report... mentality looking at the pressure lines.... just I need to spot the differance between low n high pressure, never paid attention to this....

How was your training of your team and his team..

I mean maybe his white skills were much higher then yours...????

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(¬¬)' we can know all about the settings just looking at the animation and the stats bro xDpassing orders, offtrap, counters, tackling levels on the report... mentality looking at the pressure lines.... just I need to spot the differance between low n high pressure, never paid attention to this....

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Oke, you know them, but how do you counter them [emoji12]

It is all about new event, when ever they announce new event we shall have TROL results. It happens all the time. Yesterday I played 3 draw games after I had really good season with all wins.

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It is all about new event, when ever they announce new event we shall have TROL results. It happens all the time. Yesterday I played 3 draw games after I had really good season with all wins.

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I agree. I lost to an unmanaged 32% team.

About this issue i've really noticed some nasty trools i've been doging the last few seasons

People are talking about the sponsor event and the 5,49€ premium, i found it really nice and wanted to buy it for my kid, but while the game keeps getting so many bugs and so many complaints i really think we should stop investing on it, our investment should be a respose to excelence and not just a blindfolded way to gain advantage!

Dont forget about your win bonus for friendly games. If you are playing cup and cl matches with full bonus and then you drop it to zero for a friendly your squad is likely to not play at peak performance