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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDunk View Post
    "at I mean setting up formations or tactics according to opponents settings"
    Do you even believe that? OMG, the game has no correlation with real life football, so what do formations/tactics mean to you?
    Trust me, if i have one specific formation for all my games, and my players are trained much better than my close up opponent, they can call top 11 gods on that one, i win most of the times, and the other time i get outmatched, but let s just say that the game engine decides that before the game, not him.
    Why not? Do you think the option to change your formation or set up tactics is there for the laugh? From all the games I played and watched from my friends, I can tell you with a good amount of confidence, that changing formations according to your opponents formation has influence on the outcome of games.
    I mean not reading stuff out of the bad ingame animations in 2D version. I mean just in the background for calculations.
    If you play Formation A vs Formation B your chances will be higher of winning that match than if you might play Formation C. Why would I want to miss out on something, that can get me a better chance of winning, when it is so easy as changing my formation before the game starts? Its another brick in the wall, like training skills of the players and all of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M View Post
    Why not? Do you think the option to change your formation or set up tactics is there for the laugh? From all the games I played and watched from my friends, I can tell you with a good amount of confidence, that changing formations according to your opponents formation has influence on the outcome of games.
    I mean not reading stuff out of the bad ingame animations in 2D version. I mean just in the background for calculations.
    If you play Formation A vs Formation B your chances will be higher of winning that match than if you might play Formation C. Why would I want to miss out on something, that can get me a better chance of winning, when it is so easy as changing my formation before the game starts? Its another brick in the wall, like training skills of the players and all of that.
    Well, by tactics you probably mean not something inspired from real life, but something that the game wants you to play in order for you to have the better outcome.As i said before, i think any correlation of the game to the real life is wrong, it wants to replicate football, but in it s own broken way.
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    Im not talking and crying about single results or defeats where my opponent was better than me.
    Im talking about how the AI engine shifts so much that it's impossible to have a DAY without being trolled. If my friends post were apporved, you will see and understand from their perspective who analyzed this game, how messed up it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDunk View Post
    Well, by tactics you probably mean not something inspired from real life, but something that the game wants you to play in order for you to have the better outcome.As i said before, i think any correlation of the game to the real life is wrong, it wants to replicate football, but in it s own broken way.
    Yes, exactly I mean something like if opponent is playing offensive you should play defensive. There can also be a scenario, where you are 2-0 down for example and then the right thing to do can be setting up hard defending tactic, because it works like rock paper scissors well with your opponent tactics. It's not associated with real life tactics or sense behind it. It's numbers and calculations... So imo it is not completely random, even though it feels like because it doesn't make sense a lot of time regarding tactics especially.
    Formations same, it's not always said that you playing 2 strikers vs 3W, so vs one DC is guaranteed you to win. But if you just try a lot of things and watch a lot of games, you see patterns which formations work vs others and which you should avoid. It's a thing I focused on the last year or so since I started playing again and it really helped me a lot, I can recommend it to pay attention to these things also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M View Post
    Yes, exactly I mean something like if opponent is playing offensive you should play defensive. There can also be a scenario, where you are 2-0 down for example and then the right thing to do can be setting up hard defending tactic, because it works like rock paper scissors well with your opponent tactics. It's not associated with real life tactics or sense behind it. It's numbers and calculations... So imo it is not completely random, even though it feels like because it doesn't make sense a lot of time regarding tactics especially.
    Formations same, it's not always said that you playing 2 strikers vs 3W, so vs one DC is guaranteed you to win. But if you just try a lot of things and watch a lot of games, you see patterns which formations work vs others and which you should avoid. It's a thing I focused on the last year or so since I started playing again and it really helped me a lot, I can recommend it to pay attention to these things also.
    What are you saying against active managers, then you are perfectly right. Against AI this won't work and you can change the system and setup how many times you want, the pre-determined result it will be in AI favour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M View Post
    Yes, exactly I mean something like if opponent is playing offensive you should play defensive. There can also be a scenario, where you are 2-0 down for example and then the right thing to do can be setting up hard defending tactic, because it works like rock paper scissors well with your opponent tactics. It's not associated with real life tactics or sense behind it. It's numbers and calculations... So imo it is not completely random, even though it feels like because it doesn't make sense a lot of time regarding tactics especially.
    Formations same, it's not always said that you playing 2 strikers vs 3W, so vs one DC is guaranteed you to win. But if you just try a lot of things and watch a lot of games, you see patterns which formations work vs others and which you should avoid. It's a thing I focused on the last year or so since I started playing again and it really helped me a lot, I can recommend it to pay attention to these things also.
    I mean i don t really understand mentality, sometimes if i pick attacking i struggle scoring, and if i keep defensive i can score lots of goals in a short span of time. I don t really understand how all this works, but what i know for sure is that the mentality doesn t work as it s intended too.Sometimes if i choose defensive or hard defensive i m conceding a very late goal in the game.
    The game is rigged !
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDunk View Post
    I mean i don t really understand mentality, sometimes if i pick attacking i struggle scoring, and if i keep defensive i can score lots of goals in a short span of time.
    Thats something that khris had said some time ago .

    "You can go hard defending and score 9 goals or go hard attacking and score none"

    I really cant understand why this happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by milpol View Post
    Thats something that khris had said some time ago .

    "You can go hard defending and score 9 goals or go hard attacking and score none"

    I really cant understand why this happens
    Then it should be either option 1,2,3,4,5 because it doesn t work as intended.
    If i pick defensive or hard defensive i shouldn t have as many opportunities to score as when i have attacking/hard attacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milpol View Post
    Thats something that khris had said some time ago .

    "You can go hard defending and score 9 goals or go hard attacking and score none"

    I really cant understand why this happens
    From my limited experience I can conclude that mentality has no effect on the number of goals your will score or concede.

    But from the simulation your can easily spot the mentality of your opponent. It just changes how far your team will press on the filed. In defensive your team waits for the opponent in thier half and in attacking your whole team is dancing in opponent's half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milpol View Post
    Thats something that khris had said some time ago .

    "You can go hard defending and score 9 goals or go hard attacking and score none"

    I really cant understand why this happens
    I explained before because hard defending in this game doesn't apply to what you think of hard defending in real life. Is just scissors option and if your opponent has paper you win, if he has rock you lose. Whatever that might be then. Tactics is one of the parts in the game I really struggle to understand, because it is just not concrete and real to me.
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