Personal Trainer questions

Till what age is the personal trainer avaliable?

I have a 27 year old who I hope can hit 1000 goals. To maintain older players, is it better to buy greens with tokens or use the personal trainer if they fall into the 160 - 180 range for beneficial drills. His quality requires 80 tokens.

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Originally Posted by EastsiderSG

Till what age is the personal trainer avaliable?

I have a 27 year old who I hope can hit 1000 goals. To maintain older players, is it better to buy greens with tokens or use the personal trainer if they fall into the 160 - 180 range for beneficial drills. His quality requires 80 tokens.

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It seems to work until 30Y.

30 years old.

Thanks.

No one has an opinion on whether I should use personal trainer or greens for maintaining my old man?

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Originally Posted by EastsiderSG

Thanks.

No one has an opinion on whether I should use personal trainer or greens for maintaining my old man?

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29 years old is the oldest a player can be to use the personal trainer.
In general, I find the personal trainer to be far more expensive than using greens for specific trainings. You mentioned you would need 80T to use the personal trainer for a 4% gain. To me that is not good value. 30 year olds train very slowly but usually still faster than 22 greens per 1% point (80T is roughly = to 89 G). The benefit of the personal trainer is that you do see the 4% increase across most the players skills, including ones already very high, 160-180, whereas it is harder to target those same skills with drills. But still...if you use some of the excel sheets available to find the best trainings for your guy I’d say you will get a better outcome for your 80T with trainings. All that said, 30 years old is usually past the point I try to train a guy but I wish you luck in getting to 1000 no matter which method you use. (In fact it would be great if they allowed the personal trainer for players so old that it would in fact be cost justified. I think many managers would like to extend the useful life of 30 - 33 year old favorites.)

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Originally Posted by julien12

29 years old is the oldest a player can be to use the personal trainer.
In general, I find the personal trainer to be far more expensive than using greens for specific trainings. You mentioned you would need 80T to use the personal trainer for a 4% gain. To me that is not good value. 30 year olds train very slowly but usually still faster than 22 greens per 1% point (80T is roughly = to 89 G). The benefit of the personal trainer is that you do see the 4% increase across most the players skills, including ones already very high, 160-180, whereas it is harder to target those same skills with drills. But still...if you use some of the excel sheets available to find the best trainings for your guy I’d say you will get a better outcome for your 80T with trainings. All that said, 30 years old is usually past the point I try to train a guy but I wish you luck in getting to 1000 no matter which method you use. (In fact it would be great if they allowed the personal trainer for players so old that it would in fact be cost justified. I think many managers would like to extend the useful life of 30 - 33 year old favorites.)

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Superb explanation.

I agree that the personal trainer is long past an overhaul. I have suggested this many times.

Thanks Julien. Your response was in depth and to the point. Good analysis. Will try to gain 1 percent and see how many greens it takes and work things out from there. First time actually attempting to keep an old player so a new experience for me. i still have alot to learn :)

EastsiderSG, perhaps you should consider on older players, to use the spetial sponsor skill bonus

Remember personal trainer elevates both gray and white skills

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Originally Posted by NUNO FC

EastsiderSG, perhaps you should consider on older players, to use the spetial sponsor skill bonus

Remember personal trainer elevates both gray and white skills

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Thanks for the advice Nuno. I do that if the special sponsor skills do not touch any Greys for my attackers. But it still seems insufficient to maintain a good level in the coming seasons. At 80 tokens, it is still not worth it for me as Julien mentioned. But if it drops to 60 tokens and below in 2 seasons when he is 29, I will have to give him a boost then so that he can stay on my first team even after 30 till retirement.

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Originally Posted by EastsiderSG

Thanks for the advice Nuno. I do that if the special sponsor skills do not touch any Greys for my attackers. But it still seems insufficient to maintain a good level in the coming seasons. At 80 tokens, it is still not worth it for me as Julien mentioned. But if it drops to 60 tokens and below in 2 seasons when he is 29, I will have to give him a boost then so that he can stay on my first team even after 30 till retirement.

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Why do you bother about the grey skills when a player gets older? For me training greys later in a players career is a cheap and effective method to keep him for longer. Usually the white skills are high enough if you focus on them during younger ages.

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Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M

Why do you bother about the grey skills when a player gets older? For me training greys later in a players career is a cheap and effective method to keep him for longer. Usually the white skills are high enough if you focus on them during younger ages.

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With regards to special sponsor, i allocate the bonus attributes to whoever will benefit most from it which means positions that have those as white skills. But when it comes to training, i have to use greys. Whites usually past 180 cap.

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Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M

Why do you bother about the grey skills when a player gets older? For me training greys later in a players career is a cheap and effective method to keep him for longer. Usually the white skills are high enough if you focus on them during younger ages.

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I really don't bother training gray skill at any age only the ones needed to upgade the white skills

My experience with older player is not much but i'm pretty happy with my oldtimer AMR

Is there any special procedure to using greens in training a player? Cause I tried training one of my favourite player and there was no improvement even though the drills should directly enhance his white skills.

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Good luck! As long you reach your goal, any plan is great. I personally tried many methods to get in shape, but I continuously gave up. It really pissed me off.

I'm pretty sure the maximum age is around 30. If you choose the perfect personal training, then you'll have results. Of course, everything depends from a case to another. It cannot be a general formula for everything. You can try contacting a personal trainer and see his point of view. After that, everything will be clearer, for you. The only minus here is the age. The older someone is, the harder it is for him to train and have better results. In the end, everything depends on the situation, as I've said before.

Julien it really depends on each case, ussually my 27-29 players have all their white skils >225%, so sometimes i rahter burn some tokens in a personal trainer than using drills that will almost only increase the gray skills