People ranting about the game being pay to win

I know this thread is not that important but i want to say this for the non-spenders.
I am a non spender too. But spenders on this game is not really that big of a deal. I know that will give you an edge over non-spenders. But honestly you dont need to spend a lot of tokens every seasons, i spend like 50 tokens and got more than 60 every season consistently. You can get more with the free token offers.
So the only thing you need is patience and 15-20 minutes of your time everyday. I mean thats a common sense. Of course spenders would pace the game faster than us. So here is some tips for the free players.

1. Watch ads to get 25 green boosters everyday, save it to train 1 player every season or something like that.
2. Its ok to not level up every season. You can train your team to increase team quality at that season which you dont level up.
3. Dont buy so many new players every season. use your academy and event players to replace low star players when you level up.
4. Only power train young players as they get stats easier than old player.
5. Team quality/stars difference doesnt really matter that much if you can counter their strategy. i've won a match with almost 20% difference away (we both dont watch the match)
6. Watch guides on youtube its worth it.

I guess thats all im going to say bye. Also english is not my first language so im sorry if you feel this thread is confusing.

That sounds good advice. Being new to the game I spent loads initially and thought it was a total rip off. The events organized give you basically nothing in return.

I’ll try what you’ve said about not spending much and see what happens. It is a great game but I think it is spoilt by the owners being extremely greedy


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That is good advice.

The problem is that non-spenders can never win anything.
You are always placed in a league, or cups with big spenders, which gives them an unfair advantage.

The competitions should be set up by how much you spent the previous season.
That way all the spenders can compete to see who can buy the most trophies and us pleasure players get to compete fairly.

But that would be unfair for spenders than.
The problem is that league system is old and should be changed to something new. It could be like association model where are divisions and you climb up the ladders. So the best players would play in higher divisions, medium to medium divisions, bots and weak players to lower divisions.

In my opinion spending gives you acess to what other players (non spenders) can achiver through hard work, the onyl exception are the playstyles.

Hope developers don't change the things as they are the game needs both type of players

Been told it depends on level, luck of draw and many other factors. It is definitely pay to win for players who are able to commit time and effort and if the amount invested is substantial.

I have had special sponsor before and it does help save alot of time and make our teams stronger. It’s effect can be compounded and is significant if purchased consistently.

It's only pay per win.
If you have in your competition some active spenders you have no chances.
I completely agree with criticisms to current draw and league models.
I have a 120% team at the beginning of the season (140% at the end) but in the last 4 month I was always drawn with the same 4 spenders and I had to fight for the 5th place.
Really frustrating and boring. At least please mix those servers if really there are more servers, so that at least I could play against other spenders. :D

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Originally Posted by th67

That sounds good advice. Being new to the game I spent loads initially and thought it was a total rip off. The events organized give you basically nothing in return.

I’ll try what you’ve said about not spending much and see what happens. It is a great game but I think it is spoilt by the owners being extremely greedy


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Trouble is now, that players put their worst team up before you are put into a league, then they are buying up big then they are almost double the strength for that competition. Call it smart if you want, but what chance does anyone have against that, you might jag a goal against them, but he will score at least 4 plus. So thats what im seeing lately, i guess he feels good about himself, but longtime players are leaving in droves cause they arnt cheating big spenders! Whats the enjoyment in that? I like playing against guys that are around my level. Anyway what do u guys think?

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Some players are just putting there crappy reserves up while league being sorted then once their in the league the game thinks is your level, they buy up big n put in their best side in some cases is double the strength to the rest,, i mean you might think thats smart, but no one enjoys playing against someone who does that! Players leaving because of it, if you havnt got the balls to compete on an even playing field, go n play candy crush!! The game should recognize this straight up n put them where they belong in a league they are matched to. What do you guys think?

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Some players are just putting there crappy reserves up while league being sorted then once their in the league the game thinks is your level, they buy up big n put in their best side in some cases is double the strength to the rest,, i mean you might think thats smart, but no one enjoys playing against someone who does that! Players leaving because of it, if you havnt got the balls to compete on an even playing field, go n play candy crush!! The game should recognize this straight up n put them where they belong in a league they are matched to. What do you guys think?

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It's another of the tricks allowed by this pay per win game in order to favor spenders.
I already suggested many times to consider the maximum strength of the team reached in the previous season.
But of course this does not encourage the sel and buy mechanism. It would be too fair for this stupid game

My theory is the more a player spends, the smaller their penis.

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Originally Posted by United2019

My theory is the more a player spends, the smaller their penis.

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or perhaps the larger their wallet

as for you, based on you coment, perhars you lack size on you brain ;)

I don't spend money on the game, but i don't judge or ctiticize those who do, its clearly a personal choice

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Originally Posted by NUNO FC

or perhaps the larger their wallet

as for you, based on you coment, perhars you lack size on you brain ;)

I don't spend money on the game, but i don't judge or ctiticize those who do, its clearly a personal choice

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I agree, it's a personal choice and if there are chickens it is right to pluck them.
Personally if I have to spend money for a game I prefer to go to the casino so that I have some chance to win something real.
As I understood that it's a pay for win game and that if you don't spend money you have very few probability to win, one of my objectives is to make cry some spender when I succeed in.
The advantage you have spending is so high that you cannot compete if you don't spend. This is the reason why leagues should be redesigned like associations with promotions and relegations.

Of course than league system should be redesigned to something similar as association model. This would solve a lot of problems. Now you climb ladders with unlimited levels with no benefits or even disadvantages because you lost -20% every time. And vice versa you relegate and your players not lost anything. This is weird thing.
Oh you say when team from championship climb to premier league they look weak but you know there are only few divisions and when you reach highest, you cannot climb more. And there are unlimited divisions/levels. That's why asso model would be way better to make nice structure.
Same should be done with players statistics. Now properly trained player with 5stars can look way better than player with 7 stars.

Well spending is not bad as it's personal but the training rate to increase a player stats should be increase because at the end of every season the player level is always decreased by nearly 1.5 [emoji294] which is bad and makes you look for 90 above [emoji294] players to buy in other to win games.

Training should increase a 80% [emoji294] players to at most 120% [emoji294] from the beginning to the end of the season as only young players are allowed to develop rapidly while aged players remains static

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Some big spenders can afford to buy a playstyle for every player and buy enough tokens to Max out their ST on the first day of the league season!

How can a non spender at 106% compete with this?

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Originally Posted by Kenny Jones

Some big spenders can afford to buy a playstyle for every player and buy enough tokens to Max out their ST on the first day of the league season!

How can a non spender at 106% compete with this?

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well it's their money obviously you cant win against them but it's so stupid to max player 180% on day 1 but then again i dont see any trophies on his photo so maybe a tanker instead..

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Originally Posted by jarharnamme

well it's their money obviously you cant win against them but it's so stupid to max player 180% on day 1 but then again i dont see any trophies on his photo so maybe a tanker instead..

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Spending Euros on youth academy players are the best way to get easy draws in your competitions for every season. I don't believe youths are included in AvQ of top 14 players. It also works very well after they reduced effect of white player skills.
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Originally Posted by Kenny Jones

Some big spenders can afford to buy a playstyle for every player and buy enough tokens to Max out their ST on the first day of the league season!

How can a non spender at 106% compete with this?

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I just checked out his team. He finished 4th last season in league so not a tanker. Don’t think he is a tanker based on his stats.
I have beaten and lost to +-40 quality teams. Its possible. Just do your best as the engine sometimes helps us. There is a reason why he didnt do too well last season and for his entire TE career despite being spendthrift.

I've been playing for almost a year now.

The only things I buy are the Monthly Card ($4.99 for 100 tokens) & the Premium Special Sponsor (also $4.99) - so basically $10 per month. Not sure if that makes me a P2W player?

I have also done some of the tasks in Free Tokens to boost up my tokens. But they tend to be bit of a time suck so avoid them if I have enough tokens.

I do as many Ad watching as I can - Rest - 25 & Morale 15. I now only spend my tokens on Youth Training, and I use my accumulated rests to train up 21 & under players.

My goal each season is to start with a 1st team average of around 100% and by seasons end I am usually up to 120% or so.

With this I have been successful so far - top 4 in the league in every season, Overall 6 league wins, 3 Champions League & 2 Cups.

However, I think I have been fairly lucky with my league opponents - only 1 or 2 seasons with opponents that are off the charts.

Champions League is another story - always at least 2 or 3 that are clearly paying lots of money. This season I am in a group with a team that is at 143.5% - he has 8 players at 8 stars or better. Just played him at home today and lost 0-10. But I just played my second team as I knew my first team had no chance either (currently around 113%).

I feel like a little bit of spending goes a long way but to compete with the kind of team I played today would take a ridiculous amount of cash.

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Originally Posted by stevedaytona

I've been playing for almost a year now.

The only things I buy are the Monthly Card ($4.99 for 100 tokens) & the Premium Special Sponsor (also $4.99) - so basically $10 per month. Not sure if that makes me a P2W player?

I have also done some of the tasks in Free Tokens to boost up my tokens. But they tend to be bit of a time suck so avoid them if I have enough tokens.

I do as many Ad watching as I can - Rest - 25 & Morale 15. I now only spend my tokens on Youth Training, and I use my accumulated rests to train up 21 & under players.

My goal each season is to start with a 1st team average of around 100% and by seasons end I am usually up to 120% or so.

With this I have been successful so far - top 4 in the league in every season, Overall 6 league wins, 3 Champions League & 2 Cups.

However, I think I have been fairly lucky with my league opponents - only 1 or 2 seasons with opponents that are off the charts.

Champions League is another story - always at least 2 or 3 that are clearly paying lots of money. This season I am in a group with a team that is at 143.5% - he has 8 players at 8 stars or better. Just played him at home today and lost 0-10. But I just played my second team as I knew my first team had no chance either (currently around 113%).

I feel like a little bit of spending goes a long way but to compete with the kind of team I played today would take a ridiculous amount of cash.

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Lol! Where is Khris anyway

I’ve a query about the training. Is it possible to train players to earn a star every season?

Mine tend to not even move and I have to replace half a dozen players every season


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Only fast trainers can earn star with minimal training. Look for videos on youtube how to identify fast trainer. Btw - most of youth academy players aren't fast trainers.

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Originally Posted by Kenny Jones

Some big spenders can afford to buy a playstyle for every player and buy enough tokens to Max out their ST on the first day of the league season!

How can a non spender at 106% compete with this?

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Definitely a player with a small penis who has to spend money to overcompensate :)

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Originally Posted by Spartan117

Lol! Where is Khris anyway

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He’s posting a lot on Facebook.

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But that would be unfair for spenders than.
The problem is that league system is old and should be changed to something new. It could be like association model where are divisions and you climb up the ladders. So the best players would play in higher divisions, medium to medium divisions, bots and weak players to lower divisions.

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The sound you hear is one hundred violins playing “my heart weeps for you,”

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Originally Posted by Spartan117

Lol! Where is Khris anyway

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he probably quit this forum & game already. disappointed with nodeus:rolleyes: