Frenzy Draw 60/60

As I returned to play for the next 2,3 months probably, I decided to try Draw Frenzy and went full-blown no matter the consequences.

The reason behind is pure fun as I could afford it and to be educative.


In my case even if I finished the event, it clearly didn't worth as I had to spend nearly 4000 tokens on red cards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_kv...l=GeorgePricop

This even was something that intrigued me when I saw it for the first time because it gave me the feeling of gambling (/slots?) and I can only wonder how the others see this. Considering is in exchange for tokens (something that can be purchased with real money as many players do) I believe is far to say is gambling?

Couldn't find an in-game explanation about what Top Eleven consider that this is, I decided to create this topic for awareness.

What is your experience with this and how you see it?

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Originally Posted by PricopGeorgeCătălin

As I returned to play for the next 2,3 months probably, I decided to try Draw Frenzy and went full-blown no matter the consequences.

The reason behind is pure fun as I could afford it and to be educative.


In my case even if I finished the event, it clearly didn't worth as I had to spend nearly 4000 tokens on red cards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_kvUVRV_NE&t=142s&ab_channel=GeorgePricop

This even was something that intrigued me when I saw it for the first time because it gave me the feeling of gambling (/slots?) and I can only wonder how the others see this. Considering is in exchange for tokens (something that can be purchased with real money as many players do) I believe is far to say is gambling?

Couldn't find an in-game explanation about what Top Eleven consider that this is, I decided to create this topic for awareness.

What is your experience with this and how you see it?

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This is gambling 100%, i am guessing they will get away with the "You get free entries" excuse.
I have lost around 3600 tokens on 2 accounts 6 months ago playing the DRAW FRENZY event and didn t get anything worthwhile, and since then i have barely got to level 30.

Imagine loosing 4000 tokens on this **** and saying it's fun part :D

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Originally Posted by tomu741

Imagine loosing 4000 tokens on this **** and saying it's fun part :D

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He said before that he won t play for long , only for a few seasons, so losing 4000 tokens if you aren't playing long term shouldn't make a difference.

As I said above in my case the tokens at that time were not an issue, more or less I could afford it so losing 4k of tokens was no drama for me but I understand why it can make others quit the game. Video above is experimental and I am happy I actually ended up spending 4k as it can bring awareness.

Leaving that aside, I see the gambling part and the odds for the house. If in order to get to the 5th round to get something significantly you have to play 4 rounds, and your odds are 1/4 to get a red card, mathematically you lose because once in 4 games you will get a red card.

Like in gambling there's the lucky factor and many of us can actually win a lot with less, but overall the house win so I do not understand how this feature is actually made for the players?

Can someone correct me if I am wrong?

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Originally Posted by PricopGeorgeCătălin

As I said above in my case the tokens at that time were not an issue, more or less I could afford it so losing 4k of tokens was no drama for me but I understand why it can make others quit the game. Video above is experimental and I am happy I actually ended up spending 4k as it can bring awareness.

Leaving that aside, I see the gambling part and the odds for the house. If in order to get to the 5th round to get something significantly you have to play 4 rounds, and your odds are 1/4 to get a red card, mathematically you lose because once in 4 games you will get a red card.

Like in gambling there's the lucky factor and many of us can actually win a lot with less, but overall the house win so I do not understand how this feature is actually made for the players?

Can someone correct me if I am wrong?

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I don t think anyone said this feature was made for players.
The company that bought NORDEUS 2 years ago also owns other casino games, and they tried to implement this idea in TOP11 and see if the event would increase their sells, and it seems that the event is very profitable for them, otherwise wouldn t have been available for over a year.

The attached picture is from the website of Zynga, a company that is also owned by Take Two Interactive if i am not mistaking. And from just a brief look you can see a couple of gambling/casino games within their offer.

And here is the reason:
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They won t even bring the official sets again in the store, since it didn t make them profits and the licenses are more expensive than they have been 10 years ago.

Instead they have brought us ICARUS jerseys which were most likely a sponsorship deal with the ICARUS website rather than them paying for their inclusion in the store.

Times have changed, the game has changed. I don t think it is as fun as it was when i first started playing it.

1)The market is worse, to get a fast trainer i have to search for the market days and sometimes even weeks.
2)Training these fast trainers individually from 40-60% to 180% takes from 5 to 7 hours, which in my opinion is a lot of time. Why won t they bring multiple individual trainigs? Why do i have to train every single player for so many hours? But wait, i know the answer, it brings their engagement time up, which they will take advantage of when showing their game statistics.
3)Draw Frenzy literally destroyed the game, top100 associations is literally full of people who spend more than 100 euros every month on this game playing that gambling event.
4)They ruined the competitions draw for 2 seasons now, even if you have 70% rating at the start of the season they still put you up against 130-140-150 and sometimes 200+ players, makes no sense.
5)My fifth complaint is probably with the fact that they are trying to milk sales with their event sets, items that used to be available in the store for 30 tokens 1 season ago.
And i would also like if they brought official items back in the store but i know that unfortunately it won t happen again.


These are my main complaints, with the occasional match troll.

In T&C:

"2.3. Are there any age restrictions? Legally, you must be at least 13 years old to use the Nordeus Services."

The game is advertised from 13+, I highly believe that kids on that age understand how this work and will just stimulate their betting habits which is extremely bad.
I really like to believe that there are still people there with moral values, families, who can understand the risks.

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Originally Posted by PricopGeorgeCătălin

In T&C:

"2.3. Are there any age restrictions? Legally, you must be at least 13 years old to use the Nordeus Services."

The game is advertised from 13+, I highly believe that kids on that age understand how this work and will just stimulate their betting habits which is extremely bad.
I really like to believe that there are still people there with moral values, families, who can understand the risks.

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If the people that run the company don t have morals, it doesn t matter what the employees think of the gambling consequences of DRAW FRENZY.

If i had to guess today if they will ever remove the draw frenzy event from the game, i would say there is less than 1% of that to actually take place.

As dedicated players of Top Eleven by Nordeus, we are dissatisfied and uncertain about the game's future. Issues with gameplay and long-standing bugs have been overlooked, and updates seem to prioritize monetization over player enjoyment. Lack of transparent communication from the developers adds to our concerns. We hope for improvements to regain the game's former glory and deliver an enjoyable experience for all players.